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jaF0 said:

Ex-Trump Official's Ominous Warning About Classified Documents Mishandling​

"If you're a foreign intelligence agency, you know that Mar-a-Lago is a great target..." Elizabeth Neumann said on Sunday.
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nice little nugget in here:

Trump's former attorney Timothy Parlatore told Newsweek on Saturday that while his former client is currently facing over 30 counts of charges, he wasn't charged over the vast majority of the documents that were returned in response to the subpoena issued in May 2022 or those taken during the FBI raid. He said that could be either because those documents are too sensitive that they would have to be declassified to use in court or because they don't constitute national defense information.
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"There are parts of this indictment that I look at and I say that if they [prosecutors] have evidence to back that up, then that's really bad for Trump," Parlatore added.
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from what i've seen of Special Counsel Jack Smith's methodology to date, i'd expect they have the receipts.
 
No, he did not get permission to use Matt Damon's voice from a speech in Air, and Damon&Affleck are not best pleased about his using it:

"We had no foreknowledge of, did not consent to and do not endorse or approve any footage or audio from Air being repurposed by the Trump campaign as a political advertisement or for any other use," a spokesperson says. "Specifically in terms of any and all rights available to us under US copyright and intellectual property law, we hereby, expressly give notice that in the case of any use of material from Air by the Trump campaign where approval or consent is required, we do not grant such consent."
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/t...&cvid=536df3b7d954486685d30f327a79bae1&ei=153
 
Trump said he fired Barr. Barr quit just 3 weeks prior to President Biden's inauguration.
 
LLCox said:
Sounds about right...


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...2&cvid=c80c3e4bf444430c8c45e141c69ef693&ei=12
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it's pretty funny :D

TWO TIERS! One tier in which President Trump keeps getting indicted via both state and federal justice systems and another in which the people I don’t like keep getting not indicted via all the things Fox News tells me they did wrong.

It’s like America has become a banana republic, as long as you do as I’ve done and refuse to look up the definition of “banana republic.”
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And of course, you know who’s behind this travesty of justice, right? It’s so-called President Biden, who is both frail and senile and also a laser-sharp master at conducting witch hunts.
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KeithD said:
Speaking of which, did anyone see Melania taking the plane trip from New Jersey to Florida today--or greeting her husband's plane in Miami? Where, or where, has Melania gone?
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to nurse the hurt she's suffering from due to the indictments...according to trump
 
home alone boy kevin mccarthy tries to defend the indefensible:

Asked at a press gaggle whether it was "a good look" for Trump to be caught storing classified documents in the bathroom of Mar-a-Lago's Lake Room, McCarthy responded with a question: "I don't know — is it a good picture to have boxes in a garage that opens up all the time? A bathroom door locks."

McCarthy was attempting to draw a parallel between the document storage practices of current and former presidents.
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hmmn, can anyone spot the problems with this?

i am kind of left thinking the majority of republicans in power caught covid before they got protected and it has left them with persistent, long-haul brain fog...how else to reconcile the stupidity level of such replies???

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=587d0c75460a47028b8e6cdeb54151a8&ei=17

oh wait, my bad: there am i, blaming covid, when they were trump-supporters already so...
 
^^^ Yeah, he tried to equate Biden having classified records with trump having them. He said it was unfair but left a LOT out of the absurd comparison.
 
jomar said:
^^^ Yeah, he tried to equate Biden having classified records with trump having them. He said it was unfair but left a LOT out of the absurd comparison.
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his 'point' about garages and bathrooms did refer to President Biden, but most garages have locks on them to render them secure... bathrooms generally only lock from the inside, when they're engaged
 
butters said:
his 'point' about garages and bathrooms did refer to President Biden, but most garages have locks on them to render them secure... bathrooms generally only lock from the inside, when they're engaged
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And they have a hole in the center...that can open a locked bathroom. It was a poorly thought out defense
 
“I wouldn't foresee this thing getting tried within a year,” said Parlatore, who left Trump's legal team last month. If there's ever a case that you know from the inception that it's going to go all the way to the Supreme Court this is it."
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Parlatore predicted the former president's lawyers to file "fairly substantive motions to dismiss" the case, which will be presided over by Trump-appointed district court judge Aileen Cannon.

"I could also see them going through several discovery motions, and there will be fights over disclosure," Parlatore said. "I think each round of motions is going to take three months."
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=a842d0f8aabb470c813cc6f6120c2639&ei=71
 
worth the read :) Schrödinger’s coup!
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/06/trump-indictment-reveals-two-americas.html

Whether they plan to act on it or not, in the view of the most steadfast, violent Trump supporters, the “coup” actually began with James Comey, with Robert Mueller, with Adam Schiff. It now steams forward under the lawless powers of the prosecutors currently pursuing Trump—Alvin Bragg, Fani Willis, Jack Smith. These villains are “weaponizing”—to use the preferred nomenclature—the power of law enforcement and the justice system to persecute Donald Trump. For them, all bets are off. The promise of violence shimmers in the air.
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On the other hand sit those who believe that the slow-rolling coup is perhaps finally coming to an end, thanks to the justice system finally, grindingly, belatedly, kicking into high gear.
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For the America that contends that the “walls are closing in”—or finally might be—the indictment of Donald Trump and the forthcoming trial signal that the rampant lawlessness of the Trump years and the stochastic terror of Jan. 6, 2021, are finally being checked with the appropriate degrees of legal and judicial and law enforcement authority.
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For those who feel that Donald Trump has been an uncharged criminal defendant for years (decades?), the fact that he’s been roaming around the country running for reelection this past weekend is in fact the problem. That he’s still issuing veiled threats against his opponents borders on unbelievable, as does the idea that he might still become president. In this story, the long national nightmare is finally wrapping up, thanks to the tender if belated mercies of criminal statutes, sentencing guidelines, grand jurors, and knowable facts.
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Which means that we’ve officially reached peak Schrödinger’s coup. Democracy is either alive or dead inside that box, and everyone is too afraid to look inside and say which it is.
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from a far longer article, all of it worth the time it takes you to read it.
 
rep buck would not support a convicted felon for president
Buck, an outspoken member of the pro-Trump House Freedom Caucus, told Bash that “the allegations are very serious.”

“I think there were national security implications from having documents in an unsecure area,” he continued. “I think that the prosecutor really went into a lot of detail to explain to the American public why it was necessary to indict a former president.”
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love how he brings up trump's own words as ammunition against him
I would not feel comfortable with a convicted felon in the White House so we’ll see how the case plays out and we’ll see how the evidence is presented and what the defenses are. But let’s just look at Donald Trump’s words in 2016. He said that Hillary Clinton was unfit for the White House because of the way she handled classified information. He said that she wasn’t even qualified to have a low-level State Department job because of the way she handled information. So I think his words have set the standard that America will look at in determining whether he is fit for president.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...p&cvid=a185deec24c7469abee1c9d3e4fc80fa&ei=10
 
butters said:
his 'point' about garages and bathrooms did refer to President Biden, but most garages have locks on them to render them secure... bathrooms generally only lock from the inside, when they're engaged
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The tv clip I saw he was saying the trump and Biden situations were identical. He left out the part where Biden cooperated fully while trump stonewalled, obfuscated and obstructed.
 
FOX News banner with split-screen of Biden and Trump: "WANNABE DICTATOR SPEAKS AT WHITE HOUSE AFTER HAVING HIS POLITICAL RIVAL ARRESTED."

...wow. 😮
 
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