US healthcare ranks last

[Chadrone]

More coverage of the Trump administration ironically proving that universal healthcare systems save money.

US slashes 36% off Medicare spending on 15 high-priced medicines

How is spending money we don't have, saving money??

Explain that math.....If I go to the gun store, race shop and guitar centet committing TOTAL FINACIAL SUICIDE!!!! Buying up all the shit I want.....how exactly is that saving money?? I gotta know this socialist/girl math magic!!

 

[JohnEngelman]

healthcare is not a right

Yes, it is, like public school education.

 

[JohnEngelman]

How is spending money we don't have, saving money??

We do not have the money because of Republican tax cuts for the rich.

 

[YDB95]

A rose by any other name.....

It would only be theft if you got nothing in return. Whether you like it that way or not, you do get something in return.

Civil society doesn't require bankrupting the nation for generations to come for shit tons of luxury welfare and NGO scams....sell that fucking lie to someone else (D)umb enough to buy it.

Then it's a good thing no one is doing that. Now, if you want to talk about bankrupting the nation for generations to come for military bloat and tax cuts for the 1%...

limited government =/= no government.

True, but I have yet to see the first example of you approving of any government action whatsoever.

You only reach for that because you can't actually argue your entitlement to others labor and property without looking like the entitled Karen that you are.

I work and I pay my taxes without whining about it. I don't claim to be entitled to anything.

Besides, it's YOUR side that's all "SOMALIA FIRST!! FUCK RACIST NAZI AMERICA!!" ....especially in Minnesota,

When you use quotation marks, that means someone, somewhere, actually said those words. I sincerely doubt you know of anyone who did, even the woman we both know you're alluding to.

 

[Chadrone]

We do not have the money because of Republican tax cuts for the rich.

LOL....I already know you entitle yourself to the labor/property of others simply because they have more than you.

I asked how does spending = saving??

 

[Chadrone]

It would only be theft if you got nothing in return.

No, it could also be fradulent like all the Somali first the Democrats are doing in Minnesota.

Then it's a good thing no one is doing that.

That's what has happened and you advocate more.

True, but I have yet to see the first example of you approving of any government action whatsoever.

That's because you confuse "any government action whatsover" with supporting Ultra-Totalitarian Karencrat Communism.

I fully support having law enforcement, courts, military, national parks. Almost everything else should be state run.

I work and I pay my taxes without whining about it. I don't claim to be entitled to anything.

Being a good bootlicker doesn't mean you're not entitled.

You literally entitle yourself to ALL KINDS of bullshit social programs at the expense of others. As a lefty/democrat you can't even pretend that you don't.

When you use quotation marks, that means someone, somewhere, actually said those words. I sincerely doubt you know of anyone who did, even the woman we both know you're alluding to.

Most of the MN DFL is all about it, most of the DNC supports them.....as far as I'm conserned they represent every D voter out there right now. Ya'll voted for, support and defend them.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Unlike the political parties, Physicians for a National Health Program has an actual plan.

Beyond the Affordable Care Act: A Physicians’ Proposal for Single-Payer Health Care Reform

We propose to replace the ACA with a publicly financed National Health Program (NHP) that would fully cover medical care for all Americans, while lowering costs by eliminating the profit-driven private insurance industry with its massive overhead. Hospitals, nursing homes, and other provider facilities would be nonprofit, and paid global operating budgets rather than fees for each service.

They evaluate three alternatives to their plan too.

 

[YDB95]

No, it could also be fradulent like all the Somali first the Democrats are doing in Minnesota.

That probably made sense to you.

That's because you confuse "any government action whatsover" with supporting Ultra-Totalitarian Karencrat Communism.

"Communism" does not mean what you appear to think it means.

I fully support having law enforcement, courts, military, national parks. Almost everything else should be state run.

I don't agree, but I'm also 99% sure you didn't mean exactly what you said here.

You literally entitle yourself to ALL KINDS of bullshit social programs at the expense of others. As a lefty/democrat you can't even pretend that you don't.

As a lefty/Democrat, I believe we as a society have a responsibility to help one another out as needed. I don't see how that is "bullshit" unless you're a selfish asshole.

 

[JohnEngelman]

LOL....I already know you entitle yourself to the labor/property of others simply because they have more than you.

I asked how does spending = saving??

I did not say that spending did = saving.

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Majority of Americans oppose domestic spending freeze sought by Trump, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds​

By Jason Lange
February 4, 20251:34 PM PSTUpdated February 4, 2025

WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) - Most Americans oppose a temporary freeze on domestic federal spending as sought by President Donald Trump, but support is higher for cutting foreign aid, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday.
The three-day survey, which closed on Sunday, found 62% of respondents said they were against "temporarily freezing federal funding for government grants and services," while 34% supported the policy.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/...eeze-sought-by-trump-reutersipsos-2025-02-04/

Pew Research Center

With Congress considering legislation that would extend the tax cuts passed during the first Trump administration, a majority of Americans continue to say taxes should be increased, not decreased, for large businesses and corporations. They also say this for household income over $400,000 a year.

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/03/SR_25.03.19_taxes_1.png?w=620
More than six-in-ten U.S. adults (63%) say tax rates on large businesses and corporations should be raised. This includes 34% who say they should be raised a lot. Another 19% say large businesses’ tax rates should be lowered, while 17% say they should be kept the same as they are now.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...xes-on-corporations-higher-income-households/

 

[JohnEngelman]

That probably made sense to you.

"Communism" does not mean what you appear to think it means.

I don't agree, but I'm also 99% sure you didn't mean exactly what you said here.

As a lefty/Democrat, I believe we as a society have a responsibility to help one another out as needed. I don't see how that is "bullshit" unless you're a selfish asshole.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Insanely high healthcare benefit costs are a competitive disadvantage for US businesses.

Annual premiums for employer-sponsored family health coverage reached $26,993 this year, 6% higher than in 2024. On average, workers contributed $6,850 toward the cost of family coverage. The average deductible among covered workers in a plan with a general annual deductible was $1,886 for single coverage.

And it’s going to get worse:

“There is a quiet alarm bell going off. With GLP-1s, increases in hospital prices, tariffs and other factors, we expect employer premiums to rise more sharply next year,” KFF President and CEO Drew Altman said. “Employers have nothing new in their arsenal that can address most of the drivers of their cost increases, and that could well result in an increase in deductibles and other forms of employee cost sharing again, a strategy that neither employers nor employees like but companies resort to in a pinch to hold down premium increases.”

 

[Chadrone]

That probably made sense to you.

And anyone with an IQ high enough to follow the conversation.

"Communism" does not mean what you appear to think it means.

Get your glasses checked then, because it means exactly what I think it means.

I don't agree,

Totalitarain commies never do....all that freedom letting other people better themselves and their lives, pursuing HAPPINESS....that really send you guys to the moon with rage and basic chimp envy. Why?? Why do you hate seeing others suceed so much??

but I'm also 99% sure you didn't mean exactly what you said here.

99% not wanting to think I don't mean that doesn't make it so. I meant exactly what I said there.

As a lefty/Democrat, I believe we as a society have a responsibility to help one another out as needed. I don't see how that is "bullshit" unless you're a selfish asshole.

I understand you feel entitled to other peoples labor and property as you FEEL is "needed"....but mean names don't actually make arguments. It's bullshit because "as needed" is totally subjective and context based. "needed" for what exactly?? According to who and what standards??? Let me guess, lefty FEE FEES???

 

[Chadrone]

I did not say that spending did = saving.

No rewrite did, I aksed how that dumb fucking shit makes any sense and then you jumped in and started with the whole "you're selfish if you don't let me take all your money!!" bullshit.

 

[MajorRewrite]

A reminder that US healthcare cost per capita is about twice that in other nations. We could save a fortune by copying any of their healthcare systems.

 

[Chadrone]

A reminder that US healthcare cost per capita is about twice that in other nations. We could save a fortune by copying any of their healthcare systems.

Yea but then how will Democrats defraud and scam the taxpayer???

Can't have it.....

 

[MajorRewrite]

More about the impact of America’s wacko healthcare system on businesses, by JPMorganChase.

The Burden of Health Insurance Premiums on Small Business

Health insurance cost and availability may affect entrepreneurship and economic growth.
Lack of health insurance could dissuade potential entrepreneurs from starting businesses that could contribute to innovation and economic growth. For employer businesses, health insurance benefits are part of the total compensation required to recruit and retain the talent needed to grow their businesses. Moreover, both payroll and health insurance premium payments have grown substantially in recent years. While most small businesses may not grow large enough to impact economic growth, the business starts, growth, and exits are important for how the economy reallocates its resources. An economy without this business dynamism risks stagnation.

 

[SebastianHolt]

Yes, it is, like public school education.

free healthcare is NOT a right

 

[SebastianHolt]

A reminder that US healthcare cost per capita is about twice that in other nations. We could save a fortune by copying any of their healthcare systems.

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No thank you as I LOVE my heath insurance

 

[heathrowinneo]

A reminder that US healthcare cost per capita is about twice that in other nations. We could save a fortune by copying any of their healthcare systems.

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Unfortunately the savings mentioned are at the expense of the insurance companies profit. We may be a first world country but we are third world when it comes to healthcare and a few other areas.

Traditional medicare works, not the advantage plans, traditional. And they provide Healthcare with shared costs between the government and the recipients. Copy, paste and provide to the American people.

 

[JohnEngelman]

No rewrite did, I aksed how that dumb fucking shit makes any sense and then you jumped in and started with the whole "you're selfish if you don't let me take all your money!!" bullshit.

The only "dumb f0cking sh1t" around here is you.

 

[JohnEngelman]

free [sic] healthcare is NOT a right [sic]

You should have stayed in school. You would have learned about proper capitalization and punctuation.

 

[Chadrone]

The only "dumb f0cking sh1t" around here is you.

From the "Spending is saving!!" crowd

You should have stayed in school. You would have learned about proper capitalization and punctuation.

When you can't actually argue against what is said.....

 

[JohnEngelman]

From the "Spending is saving!!" crowd



When you can't actually argue against what is said.....

I can prove that most Americans agree with me.

 

[Chadrone]

I can prove that most Americans agree with me.

Prove most Americans want communism.....let's see it.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Prove most Americans want communism.....let's see it.

That is not what I said. What I have demonstrated is that most Americans want higher taxes for the rich and oppose cuts in domestic spending.