"We're not a chat room...."

[A Desert Rose]

I fell in....

In a burnin' ring of fire, huh? Well you are not alone, pal. LMAO and I am quite enjoying being there.

Rose

 

[lovetoread]

Re: I fell in....

In a burnin' ring of fire, huh? Well you are not alone, pal. LMAO and I am quite enjoying being there.

Rose

Well who knew you were into pain?

 

[A Desert Rose]

I went down, down, down and the flames grew higher....

You knew I was into pain......LOL Masochism is part of the forum title after all.

Whip me, beat me, make me write bad checks.

Rose

 

[lovetoread]

Hold up.

No where did I find anything that said that a part of this was writing bad checks.

heh...

Whip me, beat me, make me write bad checks.

But I could change my title line,that would such a cool one.

Gawd I need to get out of here.

 

[A Desert Rose]

You realize don't you LTR, that we are flirting with each other here....

The shame of it, too LOL.

Rose

 

[KillerMuffin]

Re: Lance & Killer Muffin's BDSM Tryst

Originally posted by KillerMuffin, edited for BDSM content and fun by Lance


Why do people post to Lance's "Look at me, aren't I just James Dean cool?" threads is because people are attracted to Drama.

Lance: Yes, in part, I'd think so. People look for the LanceCastor Assurance of Entertainment in every thread I host. Thanks of course to people like you, these threads are the best-read and most heavily read on the BDSM Board. Speaking of BDSM....remove that thong.



He's the Drama King, he provides the Drama and the people will come. I love the stuff, personally.

Lance: Thank you. Now, bend over this large chair.

You claim that there is great opression going on.

Lance: Uh, no...you have me mixed up with CarolineOcd; she feels oppressed and under attack. I think she has a crush on me. Here's your blindfold.

artful is a substantial person with substantial thoughts and reasonings. He made his arguments and claims, backed them up with a solid foundation, and didn't have any need to find an audience of admirers to bow to everytime he beat the drums over a one-liner. You know what artful did? He stood up for something real and he was right and he got what he was due. Respect.

Lance: Agreed, artful is the best. Put your hands behind your back while I tape them. Press your elbows together. Tighter. Good grrl.

I watched you from the moment you arrived.

Lance: I saw you standing there. Was that Issay Myake you were wearing? Put your feet shoulder width apart.


You started with cymbidia, the vulnerable one. You rode her.

Lance: You said you wouldn't tell. Bend over. *crack*

Now you've developed a complaint that cannot be denied as factual (there are more female subs than male, heterosexual Doms) and created a new arch nemesis--female subs.

Lance: I like subs, honey-bunny....I don't like pseudo subs and harpies though. *crack* *crack*

You absolutely cannot stand these women because they don't talk about what you want to talk about. They talk about and discuss issues that affect them and their situations.

Lance: I think that's called "group therapy", sweetness. Here, spread your cheeks....


What astounds me is that you actually have female subs licking your feet.

Lance: Here, lick this nice and slowly so I can insert it in you.....*here.*

The oppression is within you.

Lance: No, that's called The Oppressor.....and it's in you. Stop babbling and open your mouth....wide.

You want them to shut up or seriously constrain themselves to discussing only the topics that you desire unless you give them leave to otherwise. Eventually the truth comes out, does it not?

Lance: It's "restrain" and shut up, baby....open wide....

Go ahead, sugar, That's okay, I'll still love ya deeply man.

Lance: Wider....(inserting ball gag)

Signed,
Killer "Mmmmfffpppggggmmmmm" Muffin

Simply because Lance "Shred the documents the cops are coming!" Castor would prefer to remain blameless if he at all could.

Edit now, bitchboy.

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: Re: Lance & Killer Muffin's BDSM Tryst

One of my favorite pieces of correspondence with you, KM...thanks for consenting to its replay.

Lance & Killer Muffin's BDSM Tryst

quote:
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Originally posted by Lancecastor

quote:
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Originally posted by KillerMuffin, edited for BDSM content and fun by Lance


Why do people post to Lance's "Look at me, aren't I just James Dean cool?" threads is because people are attracted to Drama.

Lance: Yes, in part, I'd think so. People look for the LanceCastor Assurance of Entertainment in every thread I host. Thanks of course to people like you, these threads are the best-read and most heavily read on the BDSM Board. Speaking of BDSM....remove that thong.



He's the Drama King, he provides the Drama and the people will come. I love the stuff, personally.

Lance: Thank you. Now, bend over this large chair.

You claim that there is great opression going on.

Lance: Uh, no...you have me mixed up with CarolineOcd; she feels oppressed and under attack. I think she has a crush on me. Here's your blindfold.

artful is a substantial person with substantial thoughts and reasonings. He made his arguments and claims, backed them up with a solid foundation, and didn't have any need to find an audience of admirers to bow to everytime he beat the drums over a one-liner. You know what artful did? He stood up for something real and he was right and he got what he was due. Respect.

Lance: Agreed, artful is the best. Put your hands behind your back while I tape them. Press your elbows together. Tighter. Good grrl.

I watched you from the moment you arrived.

Lance: I saw you standing there. Was that Issay Myake you were wearing? Put your feet shoulder width apart.


You started with cymbidia, the vulnerable one. You rode her.

Lance: You said you wouldn't tell. Bend over. *crack*

Now you've developed a complaint that cannot be denied as factual (there are more female subs than male, heterosexual Doms) and created a new arch nemesis--female subs.

Lance: I like subs, honey-bunny....I don't like pseudo subs and harpies though. *crack* *crack*

You absolutely cannot stand these women because they don't talk about what you want to talk about. They talk about and discuss issues that affect them and their situations.

Lance: I think that's called "group therapy", sweetness. Here, spread your cheeks....


What astounds me is that you actually have female subs licking your feet.

Lance: Here, lick this nice and slowly so I can insert it in you.....*here.*

The oppression is within you.

Lance: No, that's called The Oppressor.....and it's in you. Stop babbling and open your mouth....wide.

You want them to shut up or seriously constrain themselves to discussing only the topics that you desire unless you give them leave to otherwise. Eventually the truth comes out, does it not?

Lance: It's "restrain" and shut up, baby....open wide....

Go ahead, sugar, That's okay, I'll still love ya deeply man.

Lance: Wider....(inserting ball gag)

Signed,
Killer "Mmmmfffpppggggmmmmm" Muffin
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[/QUOTE]

 

[DRxBlue]

Hey!!

Look!

Up in the sky!

It's a boid.

It's a plane!

It's a PIE! A SHIT PIE!!

Now who coulda.....???

Hey LOOK it hit Lance right in the face!!!!

COOL! i love it when the shit drips off his teeth like that!!

LMAO at Lance

 

[Lancecastor]

Blue for Moderator?

LMAO at Lance

Glad as always to put a smile on your face Blue.

You know.....you'd make a great Moderator, Blue.

And there are 2 chairs open.

Feel free to use me as a reference;

Lance

 

[DRxBlue]

i'm glad you're glad

You do it...this place stinks

You can show us what you REALLY wanted this place to be like. The whole forum could be your shit pile.

 

[P. B. Walker]

Re: Numbers Numbers Numbers

Yes, more views and posts than most BDSM threads, however, you and PBW are responsible for approximately a third of those posts.

Since ya mentioned my name...
Name Posts
-----------------

Lance 176

PBW 57
MsC 55

Let's not just say only me and him... she's pretty much in the shit too. <winks>

PBW

 

[Rubyfruit]

...to know that one person cannot possibly stifle an entire board.

This sentiment has been expressed by many of you, in one way or another, who now seem to think that Lance has the powers to do it.

Many people lent their voices to the debates going on in this thread and elsewhere on the board, including myself.

I know KM has now said she only posted what she did to try to keep her friend from harm, but I found this to be interestingly prophetic.

You need a way for people to air their grievances and have them seriously addressed because this isn't a minor problem, this is a divisive problem that's going to perpetuate the cycle of flaming until it is taken care of.

 

[P. B. Walker]

Nicely put Rubyfruit.

Some people will go down as the villian as long as they can protect a friend. I think the majority of the (excuse my french) shit that has been thrown all over today is largely due to the fact that people have lost a friend today. I've never seen half the posters that just suddenly popped up today. You know they don't frickin read this board. Most of them have well over 5000 posts (i.e., they are GB posters). So obviously they are *solely* here to throw more shit. Are they going to stick around and make posts about BDSM... not likely. They'll be gone in a day or two.... the same I'm sure with KM and her acid tongue.

And in the end... nothing is solved. They lament and blame and yell and scream and curse and bitch and moan. They say so-and-so is the cause. The other side (i.e., Lance) fights back and ignores them, eggs them on, drives them insane, tweaks them up to a frenzy. Lemme ask... is this any different that a month ago? Two weeks ago? A week ago? Do you think things will be different in a week? Two weeks? A month? 3 months? A year? Nah... I doubt it. It'll be the same people (or similar people for that matter). It's not the end of the world folks.

PBW "Just a perspective from a neutral party"

 

[RisiaSkye]

Re: Re: Re: On September 2....

With more responses and views than any thread in that time in the BDSM Forum, blaming one poster for anything is the height of biased hypocrisy on your part, RS.

You are therefore cordially invited to pull my finger.

Cheers;
Lance

You were the only one taking credit for it as an accomplishment, so the only one I addressed directly.

I was just giving you the much-sought attention that you requested by your post, sweetums.

 

[lavender]

 

[sexy-girl]

very well said lavender you've also put what i feel into words much better than i could of

that is what drew me to this section of literotica exactly what you described what cym and risia and writerdom tried to do and did for a long while

im not saying this section of literotica is dead or anything its obviously going through a transition ... hopefully what it becomes will be part what cym and risia invisioned and maybe also what the new people posting here want it to be

this section isn't dead ... like laurel said it will become whatever people make it

 

[Rubyfruit]

There was a vision ... There was a huge thread on the How To forum where many people interested in BDSM began asking questions.

And they grew it to a forum, which is much bigger than one thread, or theoretically should be.

Because this board has become a 2nd rate sexual roleplay board ...

I have not seen one sexual role play thread. Not one. Can you link me?

... if you fail to see how a few posters have ruined this goal and vision, then you are too dense for the two of them to continue their efforts.

But all along cym and others have said that a few people can not control the tone and feel of the board.

Lav, have you ever joined up to one of those Yahoo groups that has closed membership? Try it, and you'll see what it's like when only people who meet a narrow definition are allowed to have a voice. In fact, if all of the people here who think this board is now dead and should go back to the way it was, start such a group together, I'd wager to guess that they'll get sick of each other within a month.

 

[RisiaSkye]

lav & s-g: thank you.

Ruby: *sigh* I don't know what to say to you. I think I'm entitled, as a person and even as a moderator, to have an investment in something. I had an investment in this place. That is significantly reduced now. Perhaps it's for the best. But it's not easy. I don't know what else you expect.

 

[DRxBlue]

What are you talking about?

This is perfect! Now you have the opportunity to do EVERYTHING that you held pent-up inside!

Feel the freedom!

Flirt!

Have cybersex!

If you wanna talk about BDSM or your ooey-gooey feewings...who's STOPPING ya?

Step right in to the "Hacienda del Guano" drinks are on the house! i'll be over there next to the punch bowl! Make sure to compliment the manager... he LIVES for your admiration.

 

[sexy-girl]

ruby it wasn't just about risia and cym and writerdom ... there was a huge bunch of people that wanted the forum the way cymbidia and risia and writerdom invisioned it

there is a lot of places on the net for the sort of online style BDSM but not so many for real life day to day BDSM ... so i can understand why cym and risia and wd wanted to channel this place down a specific path ... to make this place different from the other places


risia ... i think lavender and i were thanking you you shouldnt thank us


i do think that we can debate this all day though but the fact is the people that post here have changed and thats why the forum has changed ... i think its gone beyond forcing them back to posting like the good old days ... i guess we're see how things devolp who knows maybe it will be an even better forum

 

[lilfrk]

I hope you're right s-g. I really do. But I'm afraid that it just isn't going to be a good thing. It can't be now.

I'm here now to support Risia. Thank you for your kind words to her. You couldn't be more right.

 

[Rubyfruit]

ruby it wasn't just about risia and cym and writerdom ... there was a huge bunch of people that wanted the forum the way cymbidia and risia and writerdom invisioned it

I think it's been proven here that having such a narrow and exclusionary vision did not play well in an open forum with as much traffic as Literotica gets.

It might in a closed Yahoo group, but you'd fall asleep on your keyboard listening to the same people voice the same views and opinions over and over again.

 

[artful]

RS

lav & s-g: thank you.

Ruby: *sigh* I don't know what to say to you. I think I'm entitled, as a person and even as a moderator, to have an investment in something. I had an investment in this place. That is significantly reduced now. Perhaps it's for the best. But it's not easy. I don't know what else you expect.

Please know that your investment is still valid. Ok the market DOES experience it's down sides,... but as with MOST investments,...the reward and appreciation of your investment most likely will be of more VALUE as time goes by.

None of us are perfect,...but the job you have done since I started reading this Forum has been EXCELLENT. I have always believed that,...and you continue to impress ME with your articulate and FAIR minded posts.

To lose YOU, would surely have a profound impact on the validity of this Forum as a whole. Please continue with HOW you Moderate. I have yet to kiss anyone's ass in here, (except Dream's), and THAT was done in REAL TIME, (Not in this Forum).

(JMHO),...but it's mine,...and I own it.

 

[sexy-girl]

maybe you're right ruby i dont know ... maybe it was impossible to do what they envisioned (about time i spelled that word right) ... i guess it didn't work out anyway

i think what they did envision though wasn't narrow it was meant to be welcoming but at the same time directed ... i think its proved that it was welcoming from posters such as me lavender and others posting here and reading here even though we aren't in the bdsm lifestyle

but like i say maybe you're right in that it was impossible to keep it directed ... i appreciate them trying though and trying to offer something new and unique to literotica and the internet


and i think everyone will agree that this place was moderated stronger than other sections of literotica but i dont believe it was ever a dictatorship ... but i guess that is the point that people disgree on and there is no point in aruging about it further ... im only offering my views and opinions and support on this thread not wishing to stir arguments

and thanks lilfrk i hope it works out good also and i know cym does also from what she has said to me in past

 

[P. B. Walker]

First of all, I would hardly call you a neutral party.

I'd ask you to find a quote by me where I side with either party, but I know a) you won't bother or b) you'd turn it around to something else.

You're from the GB aren't ya? Don't ask me how I knew.

Let me tell you, as a reader and a non-poster to this forum, that this place has changed.

There was a vision, and I may be completely distorting it because I can't truly know what was in the mind of cymbidia or Risia when this forum started. There was a huge thread on the How To forum where many people interested in BDSM began asking questions. The thread was huge. You had people in the lifestyle who would share experiences, answer questions for those who were just getting into the lifestyle, etc. Additionally, cymbidia has seemed to have a mission to educate people who are unaware about what BDSM actually is.

Yeah, I was there. I even made a few posts to that monster thread.

Through cymbidia's and Risia's posts on the General Board and the How To Board, I think the two women have been instrumental in answering numerous questions from people who don't know where to turn to ask these questions.

In the past I saw questions about various clubs in cities where BDSMers gathered. I saw people share their very first experiences in the lifestyle. I read as I watched people such as Wizard and Skitten discuss how they became involved in the lifestyle and the various things they have tried and engage in as they grow in their own sexual relationship. Additionally, I have seen cymbidia and Risia and many others answer questions regarding toys, props, scenes, etc. that educate many about sexual play within a D/s relationship.

The way the two women express themselves drew many people out. IT allowed for people to question and become more emotionally in tune with their sexual needs.

cym and Risia have both discussed BDSM on a more intellectual level. They try to dispel the myth and the stigma in society that BDSMers are freaks. The way they approached this forum and the posts were all about how to live in real life in this lifestyle. They tried to educate non-BDSMers to be more accepting and to understand the lifestyle more. They had a noble goal and purpose to try and not only help those who were a bit repressed but to help those who have fallen victim to oppression and stigmatization in society due to their sexual choices.

When did I question what Risia and Cym have done for this board? Where do I say I'm not in awe of the undertaking? Where are you coming from with this? Ohhh that's right... you're from the GB. My bad.

Now watch the video camera zoom in to the present. Are these tpoics discussed in great detail anymore? No. Why? Because this board has become a 2nd rate sexual roleplay board and has diverted from its original intent and purpose. To be honest, I find it saddening.

We had two wonderful women who have helped more people than you can even imagine. These women have answered questions from posters of ALL ages, all sexual preferences, and all levels of BDSM play. They have been like guides for many people. They have been backboards for many others to shoot ideas and thoughts off of.

When I asked how it had changed, I think I mentioned specific time frames. Did I not? Did you read it? I said a month ago. As in, since this recent unpleasantness has begun. As in, I was questioning the fact that nothing has really been done to fix the problem. Seeing as you say you are a regular reader and non-poster here (yet this is the first time I've seen you), do you feel the problem has been addressed? Tell us what *you* think should be done. Please. I would like to hear from someone else who is here all the time.

Also, where do you see roleplaying going on? I don't do roleplaying, but I'm pretty sure I know what it is. I don't see it. I'm sorry. Maybe you can post some links to show us (us the people that are here almost everyday). I mean links here in the BDSM forum.

If you fail to see how this has changed, if you fail to see what these two women have done, if you fail to see how a few posters have ruined this goal and vision, then you are too dense for the two of them to continue their efforts.

I have immense respect for cym and Risia. They are friends, but more importantly they are women who I respect, who I trust, who have amazing brains but even better hearts.

Fuck anyone who says otherwise. You're just wrong.

Do you really think one or two people could keep the many thousands of people that read this forum from posting? What kinda drugs on you on honey? I don't think any one person can be blamed for ruining this goal and vision. I very much think this goal and vision was admirable. But like any living thing... it's going to have to change with the times. Maybe you can deal with being stuck in the stone age, but most of us can't. Are you really sure that this goal and vision is dead? Have you (the one who is here alot) really given up so easily? Yanno... maybe it's people like you who have no tolerance for altering viewpoints that have killed this goal and vision. Or maybe it's just the fact that people like you who tell anyone who doesn't agree with them to fuck off that has killed it.

I am soooo trying to remain objective and neutral. People like you sweety, aren't helping that.

PBW