What does BTB and RAAC mean?

[LisaMayTurner]

Avoid acronyms as only a few people will understand what you are going on about. It's just lazy non-language and it's not sexy.

 

[YmaOHyd]

Avoid acronyms as only a few people will understand what you are going on about. It's just lazy non-language and it's not sexy.

They don't need to be sexy given that they're only use for narrative classification and not in stories.

 

[LisaMayTurner]

They don't need to be sexy given that they're only use for narrative classification and not in stories.

Regardless of that, acronyms are non-language and they ruin stories.

 

[YmaOHyd]

Regardless of that, acronyms are non-language and they ruin stories.

They aren't in stories. That's the whole point. They're types of tropes, no different than RH (reverse harem), OTP (One True Pairing), HEA (happily ever after) or MF/FF/MM/MMF/FFM etc.

 

[LisaMayTurner]

They aren't in stories. That's the whole point. They're types of tropes, no different than RH (reverse harem), OTP (One True Pairing), HEA (happily ever after) or MF/FF/MM/MMF/FFM etc.

All sentences tell stories, of course. C'mon! You are really avoiding the core point I am making; acronyms are non-language and they really do not work for anything else other than excluding linguistic meaning. They are simply lazy.

 

[Writer61]

Avoid acronyms as only a few people will understand what you are going on about. It's just lazy non-language and it's not sexy.

And avoid using the word acronym for an abbreviation that is not pronounced as a word.

 

[Husky_Embrace]

Avoid acronyms as only a few people will understand what you are going on about. It's just lazy non-language and it's not sexy.

Acronyms still have their place.

In general they are bad. They add another layer between the letters and their meaning. For BTB you need to know Burn That Bitch exists. Then you need to connect it to it's proper meaning. As acronyms aren't exclusive, context is often important.

That being said, they can be really useful in this day and age. We have limited time to get people their attention. We have limited space to write, like in titles. You might be checking the tags, and you'll be able to identify multiple acronyms that are relevant to you at a glance. If it's all written out it can be more difficult. That way readers can find what they like, or avoid what they love, all in a shorter time by using a more optimised form of pattern recognition.

An acronym brings a higher information density and complexity, which has some good uses when the complexity is overcome by an individual or group.

In general I agree with you. I'm only in this thread as I had no idea what BTB or RAAC means.

Now I do, so I went WTF, needed to be AFK for a moment, and when I returned I GTFO.

 

[YmaOHyd]

All sentences tell stories, of course. C'mon! You are really avoiding the core point I am making; acronyms are non-language and they really do not work for anything else other than excluding linguistic meaning. They are simply lazy.

All technical writing uses shorthand because the purpose of it is to convey information.

 

[gw3n]

I understand the codes BTB, RAAC, but someone in Loving Wives has introduced "BoB" and I have no idea, my stories usually fall into the RAAC category, forgiveness is devine

 

[ronde]

All technical writing uses shorthand because the purpose of it is to convey information.

This is true, but the key word here is "technical". I spent thirty years of my life writing technical documents, but those were written for a selected audience where selected abbreviations and acronyms were common knowledge. I would also add that while those abbreviations and acronyms are accepted as "normal", internet slang used by some younger employees is not. Technical writing was expected to have a professional tone, not read like a text string on a phone.

Few things will make me back-click on a story than seeing an acronym instead of the actual words. Internet-speak seems to change on a daily basis, and I refuse to go searching through an internet slang dictionary in order to understand what I'm reading. Literotica stories are published for a general audience and that includes readers of all ages, sexes, and readers for whom English is a second language. Keep the Tic-Tok speak to your phone, and at least attempt to write as if you have a vocabulary.

 

[YmaOHyd]

Few things will make me back-click on a story than seeing an acronym instead of the actual words.

Okay, but "BTB" and "RAAC" don't usually show up in the stories. They're terms from essays about story tropes. When they show up in the story, they're showing up in forewords to tell readers what kind of tropes are in the story.

 

[dirk2024]

I understand the codes BTB, RAAC, but someone in Loving Wives has introduced "BoB" and I have no idea, my stories usually fall into the RAAC category, forgiveness is devine

As far as I know, BoB stands for Battery operated Boyfriend, AKA...a vibrator.

 

[Britva415]

RAAC, much like Loving Wives itself, is a misnomer. While it stands for Reconciliation At Any/All Costs, it's not actually a reconciliation. A true reconciliation, which is a different sector of marital drama stories, involves change by the cheater to restore the relationship, as reconciliation is an action. RAAC does not include that.

What?

Really?

Never!?

I can't tell whether you mean "that's the definition," or you mean "I've read them all and it never happens." Neither of those can be right.

 

[IWroteThis]

What?

Really?

Never!?

I can't tell whether you mean "that's the definition," or you mean "I've read them all and it never happens." Neither of those can be right.

It is what it is, literally. Seriously, you can't have a RAAC without the AAC.

The distinguishing feature of a RAAC is that it's the aggrieved party that pays the price, typically by allowing the grievous behavior to continue. If the cheater makes amends, aka pays a cost, it's not a RAAC, but just a reconciliation.

 

[Britva415]

It is what it is, literally. Seriously, you can't have a RAAC without the AAC.

The distinguishing feature of a RAAC is that it's the aggrieved party that pays the price, typically by allowing the grievous behavior to continue. If the cheater makes amends, aka pays a cost, it's not a RAAC, but just a reconciliation.

I guess you're right. I didn't think that regular-old reconciliation was disallowed, and it isn't, and I have the impression (not speaking for you, just my impression) that to say that any reconciliation IS a RAAC is to disbelieve in reconciliation as a worthy outcome under any circumstances at all. In other words, a certain kind of reader who's different from myself would think that.

 

[SundaeCherry]

BTB is "Balls to Butt."

RAAC is "Random Average American Cock"

I think.

 

[Justabaldguy70]

BTB is "Balls to Butt."

RAAC is "Random Average American Cock"

I think.

BTB is Bagiba to bite

 

[WCSGarland]

This whole thread is why I try to avoid writing to either of these tropes.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

BTB is burn the bitch which also stands for scorned pathetic little men clapping and cheering as a woman is tortured and raped in a fictional story.

They do this while sitting in their mother's basement in their shit, piss and cum stained underwear and trying to get their three inch dick to twitch.

The BTB crowd is the lowest form of life here by far. Reader and author.

RAAC is for a sort of hopeless romantic.l On their own, a far better class of reader and story, but the aforementioned 'men' spend all day flaming those stories too.

Its the worlds fault they're pathetic, jobless, spineless and will never get laid other than something rubber or inflatable.

Some day it hopefully will be figured out this crowd is bringing this site down big time.

Where do you draw the line between BTB and righteous retribution?

 

[lovecraft68]

Where do you draw the line between BTB and righteous retribution?

Always amazes me when a 9 year old thread has a resurgence.

Your choice of Righteous Retribution is a good one because that's how these human cockroaches see it. But it's an extreme term that even in fiction, let alone real life, I'd reserve for something serious, like someone murdering your family member AKA any low IQ high on violence action film

But on this topic...

Considering the transgression in these stories is a woman-because its never a man because they're always such virtuous and loyal innocent men-cheating, the 'retribution' is simply getting a divorce and move on with your life. Maybe winning in the divorce is the ultimate achievement.

These stories take revenge to the point you'd think the wife killed their family.

I've mentioned before that years ago my first wife cheated on me. I found out, I left, we divorced, I moved on and eventually remarried to an amazing woman. I'm one of millions of men and women who have done this over the years, but somehow these women hating impotent creeps who write stories for the rest of their herd take things to extreme and often violent levels and find it arousing.

Over time I've had a couple of posts like this removed for "kink shaming" and I have a good idea of who reports them.

However, I've explained that violence and hatred are not a kink and there is allegedly a rule here about no violence for titillation (hahahha). Even non con is a viable sexual kink even though its centered on what in real life is a crime-like incest-it has a don't try this at home sexuality about the extreme fantasy. These stories are not sexual in nature, they are simply about weak, sorry assed men who felt they were betrayed in real life coming here and spewing raw hatred of women, all women, every woman because they're all dirty whores unless they're 1950's housewife handbook reading submissives who don't vote and don't wear shoes.

When you here the tiresome "where's the loving wife" this is what they want. Even stories where a husband enjoys sharing his wife, and joins in as well and a good time is had by all set these maniacs off because he's a simp married to a whore who brainwashed him. These things have very clear definitions of what a woman and man should be and if they're not? They type their threats and rage on a keyboard while hiding behind anonymous because reality is, there is anon an actual man among them

The fact that most other factions of LW-and they have more than a few-have a disdain for BTB stories is really the key indicator of how bad they are. But their faction is the loudest and gets the most attention just like the media hands the mic to the most extreme of both political parties in the news. Rational people know its never all, and its never none of any group, but the media wants you to think otherwise and that BTB stories in a nutshell "all women are bad all men are good" is the mantra there.

Most nasty comments and bombs come from this group because if the bitch isn't getting hers and the man isn't a 'real man' and I've said many times its a shame this site won't clean it up. I will never say no topic should be written, I don't believe in censorship, but this is an erotic platform and to portray hate and violences against one type of person/gender/ethnic group etc is doing nothing more than sexualizing bigotry.

I'll get off the soap box now with my standard closing of this point.

These 'men' think they're some kind of tough guy, they think they know what hate and anger are. Reality is they're petulant children taking little boy tantrums.

But some of us know what rage really looks like. That's why they do this behind a keyboard and walk around with their head down all day because they know decent men-and there are a lot out there from all walks of life-won't tolerate their shit.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Always amazes me when a 9 year old thread has a resurgence.

Your choice of Righteous Retribution is a good one because that's how these human cockroaches see it. But it's an extreme term that even in fiction, let alone real life, I'd reserve for something serious, like someone murdering your family member AKA any low IQ high on violence action film

But on this topic...

Considering the transgression in these stories is a woman-because its never a man because they're always such virtuous and loyal innocent men-cheating, the 'retribution' is simply getting a divorce and move on with your life. Maybe winning in the divorce is the ultimate achievement.

These stories take revenge to the point you'd think the wife killed their family.

I've mentioned before that years ago my first wife cheated on me. I found out, I left, we divorced, I moved on and eventually remarried to an amazing woman. I'm one of millions of men and women who have done this over the years, but somehow these women hating impotent creeps who write stories for the rest of their herd take things to extreme and often violent levels and find it arousing.

Over time I've had a couple of posts like this removed for "kink shaming" and I have a good idea of who reports them.

However, I've explained that violence and hatred are not a kink and there is allegedly a rule here about no violence for titillation (hahahha). Even non con is a viable sexual kink even though its centered on what in real life is a crime-like incest-it has a don't try this at home sexuality about the extreme fantasy. These stories are not sexual in nature, they are simply about weak, sorry assed men who felt they were betrayed in real life coming here and spewing raw hatred of women, all women, every woman because they're all dirty whores unless they're 1950's housewife handbook reading submissives who don't vote and don't wear shoes.

When you here the tiresome "where's the loving wife" this is what they want. Even stories where a husband enjoys sharing his wife, and joins in as well and a good time is had by all set these maniacs off because he's a simp married to a whore who brainwashed him. These things have very clear definitions of what a woman and man should be and if they're not? They type their threats and rage on a keyboard while hiding behind anonymous because reality is, there is anon an actual man among them

The fact that most other factions of LW-and they have more than a few-have a disdain for BTB stories is really the key indicator of how bad they are. But their faction is the loudest and gets the most attention just like the media hands the mic to the most extreme of both political parties in the news. Rational people know its never all, and its never none of any group, but the media wants you to think otherwise and that BTB stories in a nutshell "all women are bad all men are good" is the mantra there.

Most nasty comments and bombs come from this group because if the bitch isn't getting hers and the man isn't a 'real man' and I've said many times its a shame this site won't clean it up. I will never say no topic should be written, I don't believe in censorship, but this is an erotic platform and to portray hate and violences against one type of person/gender/ethnic group etc is doing nothing more than sexualizing bigotry.

I'll get off the soap box now with my standard closing of this point.

These 'men' think they're some kind of tough guy, they think they know what hate and anger are. Reality is they're petulant children taking little boy tantrums.

But some of us know what rage really looks like. That's why they do this behind a keyboard and walk around with their head down all day because they know decent men-and there are a lot out there from all walks of life-won't tolerate their shit.

I guess I missed the mark with my phrasing of my question. Is there a level of vengeance you’d find acceptable? You mention ‘winning the divorce.’ Surely theirs some karma in there, a touch of ‘take that’ that you’d liked to have gotten.

I understand the just get out and move on attitude. My ex has a personality disorder and it would have cost me everything, financially as well as spiritually, to fight her.

As much as we’d like to be, few of us are honestly that altruistic. We may not act in the ideas that run through our head, but we smile just a little when we think about them. Writing them out can be cathartic.

So, I’ll try again. Is there a level of vengeance that is acceptable against the person that cheated on you, that destroyed your trust, your family, eviscerated the future you had envisioned with them?

 

[CalBishForNow]

So, I’ll try again. Is there a level of vengeance that is acceptable against the person that cheated on you, that destroyed your trust, your family, eviscerated the future you had envisioned with them?

I'm not lovecraft68, but I think it makes a difference whether you're talking about real life, fiction in general, or erotica in particular.

Real life: there should be some kind of proportionality. An eye for an eye was in its original context a plea for mercy. Definitely don't go beyond that, and there are good arguments for stopping well short of it. But this is getting into politics/religion/philosophy.

Fiction in general: go nuts as long as it makes a good story. The Count of Monte Cristo was a great story and Dantès sure as hell went to great lengths there. (But then again... I give up on the spoiler tags.)

Erotica: it shouldn't get in the way of the erotica. I'm here to read and write stories that titillate and arouse. A story primarily about vengeance isn't titillating or arousing for me. I'm not saying I just want to read love stories or fuckfests, for example I liked the Gamer Goddess series which has a lot of violence in the backstory and at least one bad incident during the series and handles them very well by the standards of this site, but it's primarily about a love story (and fucking), not the violence. Whereas a lot of BTB/RAAC stories will spend 20 words on the sex scene and 2,000 on the vengeance or whatever.

 

[Ianus4]

I think that in LW, BTB and RAAC are also used in a broader sense, the latter referring to reconciliation and the former to the lack thereof. Why Lit mostly contains stories about women who cheat on men is a socio-cultural question. Traditional expectations are unfair to women, yet they can sometimes place impossible expectations on men. If a wife cheats on her husband, it can be very emasculating for the man, and in all the pity directed at him, he experiences his own emasculation. ("You were unable to satisfy your wife.") Many would try to compensate for this with something that appears very masculine (see revenge). Then there is also the stereotype that if a woman cheats on a man, she has long since become emotionally distant from him (whether this is true is another question), which raises the question of what chance there is of reconciliation in this case. The valuable works in this category tend to offer more nuanced approaches.