What if Hillary doesn't run?

I remember Goldwater's lopsided loss to LBJ in 1964, but I also remember Nixon winning the biggest landslide in history over McGovern in 1972. What the GOP needs is a person who is a liberal in matters such as same sex marriage, abortions, etc. and a fiscal and international conservative at the same time. In other words, a Libertarian.

But, the American voters do not want a Libertarian so defined. Even a left-progressive would have more appeal.
 
Obama got elected and he's not a commie at all.

I remember Goldwater's lopsided loss to LBJ in 1964, but I also remember Nixon winning the biggest landslide in history over McGovern in 1972. What the GOP needs is a person who is a liberal in matters such as same sex marriage, abortions, etc. and a fiscal and international conservative at the same time. In other words, a Libertarian.

It depends heavily on how you define fiscal and international conservativism but yeah, if Republicans figured that out they'd run California and New York.
 
The question is whether anyone who is a non-Commie but far-leftier than Obama, such as Warren, could. And I do think she could beat any True Conservative.

Maybe. . .I think you might be getting close to the Kool-Ade myself but it doesn't matter since the only hypothetical way that could happen would be if the parties basically got the balls to rig an election to prove a point. Something where Hillary, Warren, Romney and Walker are all in the primaries and Hillary and Romney both mysteriously have heart attacks on the same day.
 
Why, if Hillary doesn't run, we'll just flip Michelle Obama into the race. (There that should give the reactionaries something to moan about). :D
 
If the goal is to see how many Republican heads we can explode I think we should summon Rupaul. Besides even if Michelle had the qualifications two of the same family in a row. Fuck that.
 
Well, yes, it would just be to explode reactionary heads--including several on this forum.
 
Biden?

I have difficulty imagining Joe Biden as Presidential. Still, he did win a spirited vice-presidential debate in 2012. He is not without intelligence.

Maybe he shouldn't be written off. But I will admit, I'm impressed with Ms. Warren. And somebody has to run.
 
Why, if Hillary doesn't run, we'll just flip Michelle Obama into the race. (There that should give the reactionaries something to moan about). :D
Before Hillary ran for the Senate in 2000, the pundits were moaning that she could become President and extend the Clinton regime another four years.
 
According to you one has to be a commie to get elected. Total fail.

I take it you have been living under a rock? Do you know how many years it's been since even professed communists actually functioned as communists?
 
I take it you have been living under a rock? Do you know how many years it's been since even professed communists actually functioned as communists?

vette thinks center-right (Obama, the Clintons) = center-left = liberal = progressive = socialist = Communist.
 
Today they call themselves "progressives" but they still promote the same kind of centralized government controls, absent for now the guns. Look up the Communist Party platform of say 1956 and compare it to today's Democrat Party platform. Then get back to me.

Why don't you start a list?
 
And I do think she could beat any True Conservative.
I've never seen any of the self professed conservatives on this board or the GB define who or what is a "true conservative", only who is not.

So the question:
Who is a "true conservative"?
 
According to you one has to be a commie to get elected. Total fail.

Have you ever seen so much delusion about the election results last November? You'd swear it was an endorsement of Obama and the Left. They talk like Warren is gonna save their world. Even she knows she doesn't have a prayer.
 
Today they call themselves "progressives" but they still promote the same kind of centralized government controls, absent for now the guns. Look up the Communist Party platform of say 1956 and compare it to today's Democrat Party platform. Then get back to me.

The Communist Manifesto itself called for graduated income tax and free public education, which is a strike against neither idea (and not the origin of either idea, either).
 
I've never seen any of the self professed conservatives on this board or the GB define who or what is a "true conservative", only who is not.

So the question:
Who is a "true conservative"?

I think it means the same as Teabagger.
 
Have you ever seen so much delusion about the election results last November? You'd swear it was an endorsement of Obama and the Left. They talk like Warren is gonna save their world. Even she knows she doesn't have a prayer.

The translation of this in terms of JBJ's prognostication success rate is: Warren wins by a landslide. :D
 
I've never seen any of the self professed conservatives on this board or the GB define who or what is a "true conservative", only who is not.

So the question:
Who is a "true conservative"?

I've been asking the lot of them that for quite some time....the only answer I ever get is politicians that are either retired years back or dead. They don't want to give up an answer for fear of being crucified with it later when it turns out their super hero is just human after all.

vette thinks center-right (Obama, the Clintons) = center-left = liberal = progressive = socialist = Communist.

No....it's even simpler. Everything he doesn't like/agree with? Is communism...end of discussion. I mean the guy finds ways of making the most loony baddie RW'ers lefties somehow....

The kicker? He and his can turn around and do the exact same shit as long as it's for a cause they support and it's suddenly the embodiment of american freedom and patriotism.

Today they call themselves "progressives" but they still promote the same kind of centralized government controls, absent for now the guns. Look up the Communist Party platform of say 1956 and compare it to today's Democrat Party platform. Then get back to me.

It's only the same in your loony world....

Speaking of platforms lets look at the GOP's.....

https://www.gop.com/platform/

Bunch of theocon whacko's need to get your fucking noses out of everyone's bidnizz and worry about your own fuckin' dicks, pussies and assholes.

All your bullshit about limited government, getting back to the constitution and caring/supporting veterans? Respecting states rights and 10A? Protecting america against activist judiciaries? LOL

What a bunch of fucking LIARS! Point fucking blank full of shit irrefutably proven by GOP/Republican actions.

Why don't you start a list?

Cuz he either can't or he's smart enough to know if we go after the GOP as a party/platform we have a giant pile ammo to snap off in his ass for THOUSANDS of posts.
 
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