Who Sugars Here?

Well, the rate is variable dependent upon location. If you're in NYC like I am, expect a royal fleecing!

No, darlin', I'm in the South. I imagine things are a little more reasonably priced down here. But if I ever decide to seek "employment", I'll know to move to NYC!
 
Both you and Lisa Ling are right and wrong.

First off, if I may...it's not just the girls who become disillusioned. I realize it's the usual consequence, but the continuous dismissal of the male element is one reason why I do it.

Someone disrespects me, considers me less than human, or is just a flat-out asshole...well, cheaper to leave an SB than divorce a wife. Done the latter twice.

There are MULTITUDES of women who do this, and they're successful at it. But here's the thing, they're smart. They're not dumb, not waifs casting about in the darkness, they absolutely know what they're doing.

And they're highly sought after because of this.

Lisa Ling would never report on that, because it doesn't fit the stereotype she and her producers wanted to sell.
 
No, darlin', I'm in the South. I imagine things are a little more reasonably priced down here. But if I ever decide to seek "employment", I'll know to move to NYC!
I come from Texas originally. Imagine my Coastal Bend ass's sticker shock.
 
I've done it to myself. Worked perfectly the first time. The second time, I got burned, and it left a mess. It stuck to my burned skin and took forever to wash off. Never again!
 
I've done it to myself. Worked perfectly the first time. The second time, I got burned, and it left a mess. It stuck to my burned skin and took forever to wash off. Never again!

We all get burned. I've had ladies ghost me off the bat after the first payment. Now I do pay per meet until I know they're not hot to trot.
 
Both you and Lisa Ling are right and wrong.

First off, if I may...it's not just the girls who become disillusioned. I realize it's the usual consequence, but the continuous dismissal of the male element is one reason why I do it.

Someone disrespects me, considers me less than human, or is just a flat-out asshole...well, cheaper to leave an SB than divorce a wife. Done the latter twice.

There are MULTITUDES of women who do this, and they're successful at it. But here's the thing, they're smart. They're not dumb, not waifs casting about in the darkness, they absolutely know what they're doing.

And they're highly sought after because of this.

Lisa Ling would never report on that, because it doesn't fit the stereotype she and her producers wanted to sell.

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Actually, they did have a few women who enjoyed it and worked it to their advantage. I should have mentioned them also to be fair.

The one relationship I found most interesting was one of a Sugar Daddy and Sugar baby who were in a long term relationship for about 10 years. The kicker was that it was a non-sexual relationship. He is a wealthy gentlemen from the south. An "older" (about 65) white man. She's a black female about 35 or so. They enjoy each other and seemed to have a really close friendship. He even mentioned that he will be leaving her "well off" in his will when he dies. He's been her mentor and helped her establish a business etc...I did enjoy watching their relationship and listening to them talk about each other.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/bestoftv/2014/09/23/this-is-life-lisa-ling-sugar-clip-2.cnn
 
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Actually, they did have a few women who enjoyed it and worked it to their advantage. I should have mentioned them also to be fair.

The one relationship I found most interesting was one of a Sugar Daddy and Sugar baby who were in a long term relationship for about 10 years. The kicker was that it was a non-sexual relationship. He is a wealthy gentlemen from the south. An "older" (about 65) white man. She's a black female about 35 or so. They enjoy each other and seemed to have a really close friendship. He even mentioned that he will be leaving her "well off" in his will when he dies. He's been her mentor and helped her establish a business etc...I did enjoy watching their relationship and listening to them talk about each other.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/bestoftv/2014/09/23/this-is-life-lisa-ling-sugar-clip-2.cnn

Well, the races are right but the ages are off for me. And the non-sexual part? Yeah, that's not right from my perspective. But also, I'm not 65. :D

If a lady is smart, she'll be able to suss out a man's true intent to avoid getting battered. She can do that by not sleeping with him off the bat, and also by not taking money off the bat. Trust me, the gropers and lechers will lose interest fast.

The mentoring aspect is a real part of a successful arrangement, however.
 
Well, the races are right but the ages are off for me. And the non-sexual part? Yeah, that's not right from my perspective. But also, I'm not 65. :D

If a lady is smart, she'll be able to suss out a man's true intent to avoid getting battered. She can do that by not sleeping with him off the bat, and also by not taking money off the bat. Trust me, the gropers and lechers will lose interest fast.

The mentoring aspect is a real part of a successful arrangement, however.

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Have you ever had a Sb who didn't take money/gifts etc after meeting her? I would think that you would get the business deal settled before going out. It appeared to me that the Sb were mostly interested in the financial gains. It also appeared that the SD's were primarily focused on how the girls looked and what they had in mind for the money/gift exchange.

I'm curious, do you know of any Sb/SD relationship that has ended in a real life relationship?
 
We all get burned. I've had ladies ghost me off the bat after the first payment. Now I do pay per meet until I know they're not hot to trot.

I am starting to think that I am using the wrong meaning for that word. I was referring to the technique of removing hair with sugar.

*Exit stage left*
 
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Have you ever had a Sb who didn't take money/gifts etc after meeting her? I would think that you would get the business deal settled before going out. It appeared to me that the Sb were mostly interested in the financial gains. It also appeared that the SD's were primarily focused on how the girls looked and what they had in mind for the money/gift exchange.

I'm curious, do you know of any Sb/SD relationship that has ended in a real life relationship?

Part one: I've always been an indulgent man, so giving has never been a major issue for me. The issue is when the recipient becomes a cash ramora. Both wives were like that, which is a result of me making extraordinarily bad choices, but those choices toughened me up for what the rest of life was going to be like.

But one lady benefited most from my mentoring as opposed to the dollars. She's an up and coming rapper; like seriously making it big now. Hopefully she won't be like Cardi B and start hurling ashtrays at people, but I doubt she would anyway. She's just too smart. She still took the cash, yeah...but only because she needed it. She used it to leapfrog ahead and get to where she is now. I didn't know any of this at the time, but I know it now because she reached out to me to let me know earlier this year. She's sweet and wonderful, and I hope to God her net worth eclipses mine soon.

(A sidebar, yer honor: almost all of my SBs have come back to me to reconnect. Some want to turn on the vampire tap, but some just want to let me know how they are. I like that. Intensely.)

Part two: I personally have not encountered an SB who had a successful "romance" with their SD when cash was not on the table. This does not mean a great deal, as I never socialize with other SDs. Ever.
 
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Of course, although we're all waiting anxiously to see what will happen since some Chicago company bought a majority ownership stake in it. Sad days.
I knew they would sell the second they moved to San Antonio so the Missus could have "a social life."
 
Thanks for answering my questions. I find this topic of interest and will be following.
I'll let you get back to your burger conversation and say good night for now. Enjoy and welcome to Lit.
 
EXACTLY

You want a social life, you go to Austin or the Big D!

Again, EXACTLY!

If you're ever back down this way, I'll meet you at the Whataburger at DFW. My treat. I'm an indulgent woman that way. Heck, you can even have fries with that! (I would be the world's cheapest Sugar Momma. :rolleyes:)

I'll check back here tomorrow. I'm interested to see if you actually get any replies from people who have actually "sugared".
 
Again, EXACTLY!

If you're ever back down this way, I'll meet you at the Whataburger at DFW. My treat. I'm an indulgent woman that way. Heck, you can even have fries with that! (I would be the world's cheapest Sugar Momma. 🙄)

I'll check back here tomorrow. I'm interested to see if you actually get any replies from people who have actually "sugared".

There's a Whataburger at DFW now? There never was before, always had to fly to Bush for that!

Apparently, no one else has gone the SD/SB route. Gotten several interrogatives over PM, but no one with experience. For once, I'm a trailblazer. I'll break out the Oujia Board and notify my parents.
 
There's a Whataburger at DFW now? There never was before, always had to fly to Bush for that!

Apparently, no one else has gone the SD/SB route. Gotten several interrogatives over PM, but no one with experience. For once, I'm a trailblazer. I'll break out the Oujia Board and notify my parents.
Whew, you scared me for a minute. But... https://www.dfwairport.com/whataburger/index.php

Surely there are SD/SM/Sb's here. We've got sex line operators, photographers, and bestselling authors (I heard that rumor somewhere :D)

Sorry, looks like I ran off the only person trying to have a serious discussion with you. :eek:
 
Whew, you scared me for a minute. But... https://www.dfwairport.com/whataburger/index.php

Surely there are SD/SM/Sb's here. We've got sex line operators, photographers, and bestselling authors (I heard that rumor somewhere :D)

Sorry, looks like I ran off the only person trying to have a serious discussion with you. :eek:

Oh of course it's Terminal E! I fly American into DFW which is usually B, I think?

So far, no dice. I'm the only pervert, I guess. (Though lots of folks who want to become one too.)
 
Oh of course it's Terminal E! I fly American into DFW which is usually B, I think?

So far, no dice. I'm the only pervert, I guess. (Though lots of folks who want to become one too.)

Hmm, looks like American uses all but E. I'm in luck since I fly to Atlanta out of there though!

Don't be sad. You're definitely not the only perv around here. And if I were younger, I'd think about it myself.
 
Strikes me as an ultimately desperate, empty, and exhausting hobby for all parties involved.
 
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