Why are Americans so angry?

[Sean Renaud]

I think Sanders can beat Trump. I just don't think the polls are accurate in this case. I'm not a "don't trust the polls guy" either. I think Sander's poll numbers right now are the same as 2012 when all the polls said A Republican beats Obama in every poll. But that Republican wasn't a real person. He was just the imaginary spirity of the Republican Party.

I only don't want Trump because to me Trump winning erases the good will for the R's. It goes from "Being a Republican doesn't make you racist" to "yeah prolly it does."

 

[RUlookingup]

I think Sanders can beat Trump. I just don't think the polls are accurate in this case. I'm not a "don't trust the polls guy" either. I think Sander's poll numbers right now are the same as 2012 when all the polls said A Republican beats Obama in every poll. But that Republican wasn't a real person. He was just the imaginary spirity of the Republican Party.

I only don't want Trump because to me Trump winning erases the good will for the R's. It goes from "Being a Republican doesn't make you racist" to "yeah prolly it does."

Renaud calling you a racist. Not much traction there.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The entire world doing it? That has traction. And that's pretty much what's going on here.

 

[RUlookingup]

The entire world doing it? That has traction. And that's pretty much what's going on here.

Okay. Whatever you say Renaud. Just listen to Chris "pole in his ass" Hayes and Rachel "erudite to a fault" Maddow. They have their fingers on the pulse. The smarter than thou Democrats do it again.....-phobe, -ist or anti- you must be one if you disagree. Pick your poison.

 

[Sean Renaud]

You generally are one of those things if you disagree. I don't even see why you wouldn't wear the title with honor and distinction. But it's not just them. Bush, Romney, Rubio, Cruz hell Bill O'Reilly has called him on his bigotry. When Bill O'Reilly and Rachel Maddow agree the odds of them being wrong is pretty goddamn infinitesimal.

 

[RUlookingup]

You generally are one of those things if you disagree. I don't even see why you wouldn't wear the title with honor and distinction. But it's not just them. Bush, Romney, Rubio, Cruz hell Bill O'Reilly has called him on his bigotry. When Bill O'Reilly and Rachel Maddow agree the odds of them being wrong is pretty goddamn infinitesimal.

A lefty quoting Bill O'Reilly? Now I've seen it all. Remember what the left does is it takes a statement or event and immediately spins it. They repeat it so many times that it becomes a "lefty fact". Trump knows this and feeds them these bullshit lines all day. The left has become like the citizens in " The Emperor's New Clothes", they dare not admit Hillary is a fraud. Those Mom jeans fit just fine.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I think Sanders can beat Trump. I just don't think the polls are accurate in this case. I'm not a "don't trust the polls guy" either. I think Sander's poll numbers right now are the same as 2012 when all the polls said A Republican beats Obama in every poll. But that Republican wasn't a real person. He was just the imaginary spirity of the Republican Party.

I only don't want Trump because to me Trump winning erases the good will for the R's. It goes from "Being a Republican doesn't make you racist" to "yeah prolly it does."

Eh...if I have to own socialist for thinking corporations shouldn't be legislating they can wear racist for building a dumbshit wall.
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When Bill O'Reilly and Rachel Maddow agree the odds of them being wrong is pretty goddamn infinitesimal.

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A lefty quoting Bill O'Reilly? Now I've seen it all. Remember what the left does is it takes a statement or event and immediately spins it.

If by spin you mean support with evidence of some kind other than the anecdotal then yes you're correct.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's not JUST the wall. It's the no anti-muslim to the extent of none can enter the country, it's the birther nonsense that literally went on for four fucking years and a ton of other shit that currently they say "well nobody is saying that. . .nobody but Glen Beck is saying that." But when you nominate this kind of person as your leader you lose the ability to claim that's a minority in your party. There are lines thou shall not cross.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's not JUST the wall. It's the no anti-muslim to the extent of none can enter the country, it's the birther nonsense that literally went on for four fucking years and a ton of other shit that currently they say "well nobody is saying that. . .nobody but Glen Beck is saying that." But when you nominate this kind of person as your leader you lose the ability to claim that's a minority in your party. There are lines thou shall not cross.

Oh I totally agree...I just didn't see any need to go any further.

I think that damage is already done tbh...but *shrug* maybe not.

 

[Tigersman]

Where do I start. Our elected representatives in the House and Senate line their pockets while we have over 8,000 bridges that need work. We spend millions building a wall along our southern border that illegals can go over, underhand through. Our law enforcement agencies do shoddy detective work sending innocent people to prison but when it is discovered the person was innocent, nothing is done to the detectives or the DA.

We send foreign aid to other countries while here in the USA we have people without electricity, sanitation or running water not to mention adequate medical care.

We have governors who stick their nose into private family matters then they run for President.

We have elected officials who refuse to do as our Constitution directs. We have a Supreme Court that for decades has been making law instead of interpreting our Constitution.

 

[oggbashan]

Either X or Y

I see part of the situation creating anger in US voters as the propaganda that both parties use.

They portray their opposition as evil, un-American and destructive. They refuse to work with their opponents even on sensible legislation and try everything they can to wreck the administration's actions, promising to repeal, reverse or annul everything done by the other party.

I'm not talking about Republicans attacking President Obama, I mean all post 1960s US administrations.

Even the primaries are negative. The candidates attack each other, ridicule each other's proposals, and claim X will be a disaster for the party and a useless Presidential candidate.

The whole US political process is negative, bashing opponents and not recognising that there might be good guys with some good ideas on the other side.

What I have said above isn't the reality in private with cross-party deals and negotiations but it is how US politics are played in public. The parties encourage anger and virulent rhetoric by the way they operate.

 

[RUlookingup]

Where do I start. Our elected representatives in the House and Senate line their pockets while we have over 8,000 bridges that need work. We spend millions building a wall along our southern border that illegals can go over, underhand through. Our law enforcement agencies do shoddy detective work sending innocent people to prison but when it is discovered the person was innocent, nothing is done to the detectives or the DA.

We send foreign aid to other countries while here in the USA we have people without electricity, sanitation or running water not to mention adequate medical care.

We have governors who stick their nose into private family matters then they run for President.

We have elected officials who refuse to do as our Constitution directs. We have a Supreme Court that for decades has been making law instead of interpreting our Constitution.

Hillary is the poster child for a smarmy establishment. Cruz also embodies the word. Who can look at her face and say otherwise? Anyone but her! Anyone! I will take Al Sharpton before her.

 

[JackLuis]

I see part of the situation creating anger in US voters as the propaganda that both parties use.

They portray their opposition as evil, un-American and destructive. They refuse to work with their opponents even on sensible legislation and try everything they can to wreck the administration's actions, promising to repeal, reverse or annul everything done by the other party.

I'm not talking about Republicans attacking President Obama, I mean all post 1960s US administrations.

Even the primaries are negative. The candidates attack each other, ridicule each other's proposals, and claim X will be a disaster for the party and a useless Presidential candidate.

The whole US political process is negative, bashing opponents and not recognising that there might be good guys with some good ideas on the other side.

What I have said above isn't the reality in private with cross-party deals and negotiations but it is how US politics are played in public. The parties encourage anger and virulent rhetoric by the way they operate.

Unfortunately Zealotry is considered a virtue by many in the US and this is exacerbated by our parties. As long as we have Zealots we will be angry and lose to the forces of the Dark Lords.

 

[RUlookingup]

Unfortunately Zealotry is considered a virtue by many in the US and this is exacerbated by our parties. As long as we have Zealots we will be angry and lose to the forces of the Dark Lords.

How can you look at Hillary and say you trust her? Her face is the very definition of weasel. Her body langugage screams out "I am a liar!!!!!" Be honest people.

 

[DooleyDarter]

Americans are angry because at every turn, us normal ones have to deal with ignorant, childlike, delusional libtards

 

[BotanyBoy]

We have elected officials who refuse to do as our Constitution directs. We have a Supreme Court that for decades has been making law instead of interpreting our Constitution.

Can you name a single law that was made in the SCOTUS....just 1.

 

[JackLuis]

How can you look at Hillary and say you trust her? Her face is the very definition of weasel. Her body langugage screams out "I am a liar!!!!!" Be honest people.

That can be said of most of the candidates. Bernie is the only one who is not a shill for the Dark Lords. Yet, "he's Unelectible" is his tag line in the MSM. I believe that is so because of his stand on public funding of elections, which will remove many millions from the pockets of the publishing classes.

 

[Hypoxia]

Can you name a single law that was made in the SCOTUS....just 1.

Marbury v. Madison -- SCOTUS granted itself the power to overturn laws. Checkmate.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Marbury v. Madison -- SCOTUS granted itself the power to overturn laws. Checkmate.

There is no text of the law they created in that link. Lots about how they ruled on existing laws and the resulting consequences of those rulings. But I didn't see anything that any of the justices wrote up that became federal law.

I might be missing it but if you can quote/link the test of the laws they created I'd appreciate it.

To this day every time I have heard someone say "SCOTUS IS LEGISLATING FROM THE BENCH!!" it really just means they didn't rule the way you wanted.

 

[RUlookingup]

There is no text of the law they created in that link. Lots about how they ruled on existing laws and the resulting consequences of those rulings. But I didn't see anything that any of the justices wrote up that became federal law.

I might be missing it but if you can quote/link the test of the laws they created I'd appreciate it.

To this day every time I have heard someone say "SCOTUS IS LEGISLATING FROM THE BENCH!!" it really just means they didn't rule the way you wanted.

Botany Boy you know the SCOTUS is partisan. Why the uproar over Scalia's replacement if it wasn't?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Botany Boy you know the SCOTUS is partisan. Why the uproar over Scalia's replacement if it wasn't?

Yea I know, always has been always will be.

That doesn't mean they legislate from the bench....


Unless you can ID some laws that a Supreme wrote up and passed into law all by themselves.

I'm open if you got some....just present and cite your source for these federal laws that SCOTUS is generating.

Until you do I'm rather certain they do not create law but rule on laws legislatures create and executives sign into law.

 

[DeYaKen]

I see part of the situation creating anger in US voters as the propaganda that both parties use.

They portray their opposition as evil, un-American and destructive. They refuse to work with their opponents even on sensible legislation and try everything they can to wreck the administration's actions, promising to repeal, reverse or annul everything done by the other party.

I'm not talking about Republicans attacking President Obama, I mean all post 1960s US administrations.

Even the primaries are negative. The candidates attack each other, ridicule each other's proposals, and claim X will be a disaster for the party and a useless Presidential candidate.

The whole US political process is negative, bashing opponents and not recognising that there might be good guys with some good ideas on the other side.

What I have said above isn't the reality in private with cross-party deals and negotiations but it is how US politics are played in public. The parties encourage anger and virulent rhetoric by the way they operate.

You mean like this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35793103

I think in the UK that might be called incitement to violence which is a crime.

 

[RUlookingup]

You mean like this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35793103

I think in the UK that might be called incitement to violence which is a crime.

Make all Trump supporters wear body cams so you snowflakes can determine if your safe space has been invaded. Has anyone seen pilot? Time to jump aboard the Trump train while there's still room. He must be peacefully flying in his unaffected lair.

 

[DeYaKen]

Make all Trump supporters wear body cams so you snowflakes can determine if your safe space has been invaded. Has anyone seen pilot? Time to jump aboard the Trump train while there's still room. He must be peacefully flying in his unaffected lair.

Don't see your point.
Is he or is he not telling his supporters that the right way to treat protesters is to beat the shit out of them?
Did he or did he not offer to cover the defence costs of anyone that did so?

No wonder Russian TV stations are supporting him.

 

[sr71plt]

Hmmm. RULookingup seems to be having trouble processing that.