Young Justice: Outsiders (OOC)

[Sean Renaud]

I already admitted that was my bust as far as where the action was. Upon rereading it it is fairly obvious but I'd probably make the same goof again.

As far as Superboy and Superman separating it could be as simple as him tossing Superboy away and going to save someone who was in more immediate danger. Hell truth be told helping Ben get the masses out while ANYBODY keeps SB busy for between a few seconds and a minute depending on how worried superman is about bringing the building down on top of them instead of putting a hole in it would probably take priority just on a sheer numbers game for the boy scout. Or Superman could get knocked away and she engages before he gets back. He has been known to underestimate people or get taken off guard.

Or hell Superboy without looking back at Lady K's powers Superboy could just be uber. One would have to assume that if Cadmus launched an intentional attack, as opposed to what happened in the show that Super Boy would have been sent in fully charged and with a slapper.

 

[The Jeffinator]

Well, I haven't adapted Superboy's Shields into the story because -- and you're going to give me slack for this -- they would not realistically change his power immediately. His body cannot store as much solar power as Supes', and so using the slappers to "raise his level cap" does not mean his current level is going to jump up to the new cap. The slappers would just give his body the capacity to gather energy faster and store more, but that energy doesn't.appear out of nowhere -- he still has to absorb more to reach the new cap.

Granted, he might be able to use the current energy he has more efficiently, but it would take him at a few minutes or hours of uninterrupted UV radiation to power up his cells to their new max. Though, I shouldn't put too much though into it because the Shields would also likely destabilize his genetic structure and lead to his molecules tearing themselves apart, lol.

 

[GypsyGirl84]

This is why I always read stuff two or three times before posting a reply, because

1) I always miss something on the first read
2) Especially on this superhero thread, there are details I didn't even know existed

I shall sleep, sober up, and post in a few hours upon waking

 

[GypsyGirl84]

Though I suppose theoretically, Superman could assume he put Superboy down, a signal from the Watchtower could pull him away from the Resort, and a minute after he leaves, Superboy emerges from the rubble.

Alternatively, I could send Lake K after Psimon, but I really believe that's a target ripe for Miss Martian, who said she might post Saturday night?

I could just leave Lady K as one of the superheroes working in one sentence backgrounds. If there's no big action for her to participate in she really doesn't need a post.

In the words of Meatloaf, "Let Me Sleep On It."

 

[The Jeffinator]

Well, the reason I said Supes should at least think Superboy was defeated is that likely, he would keep on attacking Superman until he was incapacitated. And Superman is not going to just send the strongest genomorph off into the crowd and then wander off. Ultimately, Superboy could cause a lot of deaths in just seconds. Psimon probably programmed him to focus on Superman first, though, as he's the only genomorph capable of giving him a decent fight.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Whether or not he can absorb as much as superman is purely speculative but lets accept that. As far as speed of absorbtion I assumed based on two things that Superboy was indeed absorbing sunlight at an accelrated rate. First the fucker is only what ? 6 weeks old at the begining of the story and it displaying strength above Aqualad (who can lift cars mind you. They rarely remind you of his strength in the show but he's at least Spiderman level) which means he was getting yellow radiation from SOMETHING and that white suit sure as fuck looked like the one superman wears when he needs to juice up quickly.

Either way I was just throwing ideas out there as to how it could work.

 

[Lily_Wight]

I'm ready to make my post, are we keeping both assist actions on the books?

 

[Tight_n_ready]

Ok, just working on my CS, then I'll get immediately on with a post to pull you guys out of that shit storm

 

[Sean Renaud]

Hey! Only Star is in a shit storm! At the very least Ben could leave pretty much any time he pleased!

PS: I know the first word is bracelet or close enough would someone kindly translate Lady K's second comment about Ben into moron. . .I mean American. . .I mean English.

 

[GypsyGirl84]

Hey! Only Star is in a shit storm! At the very least Ben could leave pretty much any time he pleased!

PS: I know the first word is bracelet or close enough would someone kindly translate Lady K's second comment about Ben into moron. . .I mean American. . .I mean English.

Actually, she's using an older French word for wristguard/bracer. And the second bit is that she thinks Ben is a little overdramatic, but then she's trained in classical stoicism, so when she starts enjoying hacking and whacking a bit too much, she'll criticize herself as well!

 

[The Jeffinator]

In the cartoon Superboy had the white suit and the sun chamber at Cadmus. Remember in the episode where he fought Match they placed him in the chamber again to heal faster?

And Lily, I will go ahead and edit the assist of Batgirl from my post and then get my next one up tomorrow evening.

 

[The Jeffinator]

I will have my post up Sunday night, but Gypsy, I wanted to ask you about Lady K's mental and magical protections and Brillig. So, the sword is flying at Psimon, presumably, rather fast. Psimon will be able to detect it once it gets close enough, but does it have any protections against his telekinesis? What about Lady K?

 

[GypsyGirl84]

I will have my post up Sunday night, but Gypsy, I wanted to ask you about Lady K's mental and magical protections and Brillig. So, the sword is flying at Psimon, presumably, rather fast. Psimon will be able to detect it once it gets close enough, but does it have any protections against his telekinesis? What about Lady K?

I wasn't expecting Brilig to actually hit Psimon, though when you asked, it reminded me of this segment on "Robot Chicken" where Beastman kills HeMan by accident, because he's expecting HeMan to block the attack, like he always does! SheRa and her time of the month was still a funnier skit, though

Brilig the spirit inside the sword (who is a combination of Ariel from The Tempest and Bob from the Dresden Files) couldn't stop Psimon from knocking the sword aside or even "reflecting" the sword back at Lady K (who would just pluck Brilig from the air then), but Brilig could prevent Psimon from using the sword as anything but a projectile, and even then it wouldn't be accurate. The Paradis jewel would make Lady K immune from direct telekinetic manipulation, but not from having something like a big geomorph thrown at her.

My thoughts, anyway!

 

[The Jeffinator]

Also, just so everyone knows, I'm probably going to start guiding the battle towards a conclusion in my next post after tonight's one. Scar has already disabled most of the genomorphs, and if Nubian isn't coming back to play Manta, I assume his forces will meet defeat rather quickly. So unless I start pulling new villains out of my ass, this battle is already almost over, lol. Superboy and Psimon are really the only threats that remain, and if Psimon is defeated, Miss Martian or Manhunter can probably suppress his programming in Superboy's mind.

 

[The Jeffinator]

I wasn't expecting Brilig to actually hit Psimon, though when you asked, it reminded me of this segment on "Robot Chicken" where Beastman kills HeMan by accident, because he's expecting HeMan to block the attack, like he always does! SheRa and her time of the month was still a funnier skit, though

Brilig the spirit inside the sword (who is a combination of Ariel from The Tempest and Bob from the Dresden Files) couldn't stop Psimon from knocking the sword aside or even "reflecting" the sword back at Lady K (who would just pluck Brilig from the air then), but Brilig could prevent Psimon from using the sword as anything but a projectile, and even then it wouldn't be accurate. The Paradis jewel would make Lady K immune from direct telekinetic manipulation, but not from having something like a big geomorph thrown at her.

My thoughts, anyway!

So he could fling Brillig away, but not Lady K as she lunges at him? If he can't directly manipulate her body, would she still lose her footing if he hit her with a telekinetic energy blast? AKA Force Push, lol. And what about Force Lightning? I want to make sure my post is consistent with her abilities and protections.

 

[GypsyGirl84]

So he could fling Brillig away, but not Lady K as she lunges at him? If he can't directly manipulate her body, would she still lose her footing if he hit her with a telekinetic energy blast? AKA Force Push, lol. And what about Force Lightning? I want to make sure my post is consistent with her abilities and protections.

To be honest, I didn't think Lady K was actually going to get close to him. Either someone would attack him mentally while he was distracted by the brunette anachronism hurtling toward him, or he'd direct a couple of really big geomorphs between him and Lady K!

Energy blast and force push would affect her, I think, because they're not direct manipulations. Wouldn't force push use the air molecules between him and her, the same way force lightning would use ambient energy? I don't think either would stop or her, but it would certainly slow her down!

 

[The Jeffinator]

To someone getting hit by Force Push, it would probably feel like a fierce warm wind was blowing at them. Did you watch the SWTOR trailers I linked? If Psimon used Force Push, it would look similar to when Satele Shan pushes Darth Malgus into that cliff face or giant boulder or whatever it was.

I would say the energy that sparks it probably comes from Psimon's bioelectricity in his brain, and then maintains it by perhaps static energy from friction caused by vibrating the atoms around him and along the path of the wave or lightning.

 

[GypsyGirl84]

To someone getting hit by Force Push, it would probably feel like a fierce warm wind was blowing at them. Did you watch the SWTOR trailers I linked? If Psimon used Force Push, it would look similar to when Satele Shan pushes Darth Malgus into that cliff face or giant boulder or whatever it was.

I would say the energy that sparks it probably comes from Psimon's bioelectricity in his brain, and then maintains it by perhaps static energy from friction caused by vibrating the atoms around him and along the path of the wave or lightning.

I would assume that for Psimon to get that much air mass moving, as in the trailer, it would take either a lot of energy or a lot of time. Still, it would be pretty cool to see him exert that much mental energy (and emotion!) to slam Lady K against a ballroom wall. And then get subsequently blindsided by someone else! Or if the battle continues, Lady K shake her head, spit some blood and then come roaring toward him.

 

[The Jeffinator]

A majority of the energy would likely already be in the air around him, he would just need to guide it to do his bidding. On a subconscious level, we control electronic pulses everytime we blink our eyes or smile or make a fist. In Psimon's case, he controls those pulses consciously, and he isn't limited to physical nerves -- he essentially has biological WiFi and can transmit those pulses wirelessly and manipulate the atoms in the air around him.

Though, one thing I did forget to point out in my last post is that the Force Push in the trailer is a sustained one, and would take a lot more focus than a single quick burst.

As for his psychic abilities, I envision him as essentially hacking into another mind and using his electonic neural pulses to influence theirs.

 

[GypsyGirl84]

A majority of the energy would likely already be in the air around him, he would just need to guide it to do his bidding. On a subconscious level, we control electronic pulses everytime we blink our eyes or smile or make a fist. In Psimon's case, he controls those pulses consciously, and he isn't limited to physical nerves -- he essentially has biological WiFi and can transmit those pulses wirelessly and manipulate the atoms in the air around him.

Though, one thing I did forget to point out in my last post is that the Force Push in the trailer is a sustained one, and would take a lot more focus than a single quick burst.

As for his psychic abilities, I envision him as essentially hacking into another mind and using his electonic neural pulses to influence theirs.

I think even a single quick burst will take a lot of concentration, though. You're talking about potential energy existing in the environment, and I would argue (though strictly hypothetically, since Psimon is yours to write as you wish) that the air in ballroom is essentially "at rest", and thus will tend to stay "at rest." That's a lot of mass to guide into motion, and thus I would argue that it's not something that could be done on a whim, as it were, with a flick of a wrist while going about your daily business.

And I totally agree about your hacking description.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Actually, she's using an older French word for wristguard/bracer. And the second bit is that she thinks Ben is a little overdramatic, but then she's trained in classical stoicism, so when she starts enjoying hacking and whacking a bit too much, she'll criticize herself as well!

Eh like I said close enough. I knew it had something to do with something on his wrist. And Ben is very over dramatic when he's in the mood. He's actually quite subdued at the moment. Combination of serious situation and not a particularly flashy form. You should see Rath!

In the cartoon Superboy had the white suit and the sun chamber at Cadmus. Remember in the episode where he fought Match they placed him in the chamber again to heal faster?

And Lily, I will go ahead and edit the assist of Batgirl from my post and then get my next one up tomorrow evening.

It's been like four years but that's most the reason why I think given a slapper and any given amount of time he might have been REALLY strong. Kryptonians are notoriously random and depending on who and when you ask any fight superman loses or comes close to losing is because he's holding back. Regardless you guys seem to have a quality finish and I was agian just throwing out suggestions.

Also, just so everyone knows, I'm probably going to start guiding the battle towards a conclusion in my next post after tonight's one. Scar has already disabled most of the genomorphs, and if Nubian isn't coming back to play Manta, I assume his forces will meet defeat rather quickly. So unless I start pulling new villains out of my ass, this battle is already almost over, lol. Superboy and Psimon are really the only threats that remain, and if Psimon is defeated, Miss Martian or Manhunter can probably suppress his programming in Superboy's mind.

That's cool Thought I thought Scar had only taken out the straglers outside I admit I'm not up to date I checked the OOC not the IC when I got in and I'm still digging through this and two other sites as quickly as I can but it's a bit heavy when you spend 13 hours away.

 

[The Jeffinator]

Well in Guy's post he said there weren't enough of them left to back Psimon's play, so I took that to mean Scar had single-handedly disabled at least half of the monsters.

And Gypsy, while the atoms in the air may be considered "at rest," they are always in motion. Think of the electrons inside the oxygen atoms, nitrogen atoms, and hydrogen atoms all around us at any given moment. And then think of the energy produced if you make them vibrate faster and generate static from the friction.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Except for that part where energy is not produced. As in so far as we know it's not even possible.

 

[The Jeffinator]

Of course we don't KNOW whether it's possible -- do we have any records of someone actually psychically creating energy? But there is a lot of potential energy all around us. For instance, if you put hydrogen atoms under enough pressure that they fuse into helium, it releasing an enormous burst of energy. That's how a clump of gas and dust becomes a star. It grows so massive that the force of gravity begins fuses hydrogen into helium.

 

[Tight_n_ready]

Sorry guys, I meant to post last night and got caught up doing something else. I promise one today. I'm going to have M'gann arrive right about now, to chaos and confusion of course. She'll see Psimon fling Lady K across the room, sense him manipulating the genomorphs, and try and go after him. Sound good ?