2010 News & Views: Discussions and Announcements for the Survivorphile

[CrimsonMaiden]

I think clarifying it so that instead of a multichaptered story will not count for points that a multichaptered story will count as a single story based on whatever the the initial chapter was. I don't really see how it could be exploited to let them count it as whatever chapter they want but I also understand that people don't see the problem until it's happened.

But I figure if a guy writes three chapters of a story or something that is too long to read in one sitting that they should be allowed to break it into chapters without penalty. I also feel that with the really flimsy for a lack of better wording format for "chapters" in this contest that a worst case scenario should be that multiple stories count as a single story.

My point is to unite the law in practice with the spirit of the law. As I understand it the spirit of the law was to prevent someone from writing on big story and chopping it into small portions and receiving hundreds of points. It was not to prevent someone from writing and epic and receiving the same amount of points as one story and I feel (and seem not to be alone) that it should be modified.

Actually, Sean, we had the discussion about counting a series as one submission points wise before the 2009 contest. A couple wanted to do it your way, but the majority shot it down. Most participants felt we either allow chapters or we don't (except for the two obvious categories of course). It starts getting way too complicated if you start adding in more exceptions.

You are always free to write a series, you just can't count it for points. If you want to count it, then put it in Novels and meet the 7500 per chapter rule.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Granted I may be wrong but I think that the vote would land differently if we asked around again. At the moment I think a lot of people still thought there was a way to exploit the rule as I think it should be (and I don't see how but I'm sure there is a way) but it was a rule in theory then. I believe now as a rule that has been seen in practice we have seen both the good and the bad of it and think it could do with a rephrasing.

 

[OnlyByMoonlight]

I have a question about illustrated text. I have an illustrated poem that I have put with a pic that my aunt took. It is of something in the public domain and she gave it to me. Is that allowed on lit or does it have to be a pic I took myself?

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

I have a question about illustrated text. I have an illustrated poem that I have put with a pic that my aunt took. It is of something in the public domain and she gave it to me. Is that allowed on lit or does it have to be a pic I took myself?

Rules say a picture taken or created by yourself or of yourself.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Just a little reminder here: Any stories that either moderators find or have pointed out to them by other participants that do not fit the specifics of the category in which they are placed will be reported to Laurel to be moved to the appropriate category.

I've already noticed some non-erotic stuff being put into the Erotic categories. Play nice, people. It's awfully early to be skirting the rules.

 

[OnlyByMoonlight]

Just a quick question

I'm writing something which looks like its going to be a story with two sequels. I know I can't count the sequels, but I can count the first one, right?

 

[Sean Renaud]

No. Having sequels discounts all of them. The difference between sequels and chapters is too indistinct so my suggestion is either to write it as one really long story or not at all.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Just a quick question

I'm writing something which looks like its going to be a story with two sequels. I know I can't count the sequels, but I can count the first one, right?

Each story must be completely new and different in order to count for points. If the next two are sequel/chapters, then the first cannot count either because it would be considered part of the series.

 

[YoursSINSerely]

Crimson Maiden, I'm thinking about writing all of my stories this year that center around a shoe or mention a shoe in them. Are those going to be considered sequels, or chapters? I really don't want to get going on this if they are all going to be disqualified at the end of the year. They aren't all going to be fetish stories, but I do want to throw in the shoe somewhere. I'm starting to feel like it's my signature. What do you think?

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Crimson Maiden, I'm thinking about writing all of my stories this year that center around a shoe or mention a shoe in them. Are those going to be considered sequels, or chapters? I really don't want to get going on this if they are all going to be disqualified at the end of the year. They aren't all going to be fetish stories, but I do want to throw in the shoe somewhere. I'm starting to feel like it's my signature. What do you think?

If it's different shoes and different stories, I don't see a problem with it.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

ScoreBoard updates will be done whenever I get time (hopefully once every couple of weeks). If you do not wish to be included in the updates, let me know. Otherwise, I will just go down the list and check everyone's scores for each update. It's just easier that way.

 

[oOScarletWingsOo]

I think I know the answer to my question, but I want to be certain.

If you write a stand a lone story but reference an article that a character wrote, can you use the article to count toward a category like How To for points?

Pardon me in advance if this has be covered in previous threads.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

I think I know the answer to my question, but I want to be certain.

If you write a stand a lone story but reference an article that a character wrote, can you use the article to count toward a category like How To for points?

Pardon me in advance if this has be covered in previous threads.

Can you describe what you mean in a bit more detail please? I want to be sure I understand what you are asking.

 

[oOScarletWingsOo]

I'm sorry I wasn't clear.

Let's say I created a character in a story that is a journalist. In the story the character is given an assignment to write an article on "How to Do ___". Can you then write that article and have it count for points?

You'd have a stand alone story with the journalist (beginning/middle/end) and a "How to" submission inspired by the story and maybe hyperlink the two to each other. The "How to" isn't a plot point of the stand alone story, more like "Jenny sat at her computer working on her "How to Kill a Mockingbird" article. Later that day she fell in love with Jorge. 4 weeks later they got married because the sex is so good. The End."

Would only one submission count for points in that instance? Or would they both count?

Another example would be characters corresponding through letters. In the story a few lines of certain letters are referrenced. If a participant took the time to felsh out a few letters and used them to count under Letters/Transcripts, could both submissions count for points? (In this example I'm guessing that the story would disqualify the Letters/Transcript submission? Would the Letters submission be considered part of a series/chapter in a way?)

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

I'm sorry I wasn't clear.

Let's say I created a character in a story that is a journalist. In the story the character is given an assignment to write an article on "How to Do ___". Can you then write that article and have it count for points?

You'd have a stand alone story with the journalist (beginning/middle/end) and a "How to" submission inspired by the story and maybe hyperlink the two to each other. The "How to" isn't a plot point of the stand alone story, more like "Jenny sat at her computer working on her "How to Kill a Mockingbird" article. Later that day she fell in love with Jorge. 4 weeks later they got married because the sex is so good. The End."

Would only one submission count for points in that instance? Or would they both count?

Another example would be characters corresponding through letters. In the story a few lines of certain letters are referrenced. If a participant took the time to felsh out a few letters and used them to count under Letters/Transcripts, could both submissions count for points? (In this example I'm guessing that the story would disqualify the Letters/Transcript submission? Would the Letters submission be considered part of a series/chapter in a way?)

The How To article should be fine since only the title was mentioned in the story and the How To article wouldn't have anything to do with the story itself.

As far as the letters/story, if you only referenced the letters instead of quoting parts of them, I think it would be okay (as long as the letters have nothing to do with the story that was written except for having the same characters). If you quoted part of the letters though, you're getting into templating, etc and that's murky waters.

 

[oOScarletWingsOo]

That clears that up. Thank you much.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

That clears that up. Thank you much.

Something I thought about last night... I didn't make it clear in the previous post, if you did the letter submission, you could only do *one*. You couldn't do a back and forth between two people as several submissions because that would be considered chapters/series. Just wanted to clear that up.

 

[oOScarletWingsOo]

That makes sense.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

I finally got my new laptop! So as soon as I get my office suite installed, I will do the first scoreboard update and make sure I have all of the scorecards posted. Should be done by the end of the week. I don't think I will get it finished today and I'm going to be really busy the next two days, but I should have it done by Friday night.

 

[RedHairedandFriendly]

Thanks for the work done on the rules and how well you've been able to describe them. I'm certainly glad I've read through them, because things sure have changed since 2006 when I was able to give 110% percent.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

I'm on vacation this week, so I might not be able to check in much til the end of the week. If you win an immunity, just post your claim and I will get the first post updated asap.

 

[RedHairedandFriendly]

Finally I got a story posted for the contest!

If I understand the new rules, any more stories for the Chain Story category must be new chapters in new chains, and I can only claim one of them. Correct?

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Finally I got a story posted for the contest!

If I understand the new rules, any more stories for the Chain Story category must be new chapters in new chains, and I can only claim one of them. Correct?

Yes, that is correct.

 

[RedHairedandFriendly]

Thanks.

Also ... this morning I logged in to add to my scorecard, but after clicking the edit button an "invalid link" reply popped up. I've notified admin. Just curious if anyone else had this same issue today, or recently.

Crimson, do we need to notify you when we change the points on our scorecard?

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Thanks.

Also ... this morning I logged in to add to my scorecard, but after clicking the edit button an "invalid link" reply popped up. I've notified admin. Just curious if anyone else had this same issue today, or recently.

Crimson, do we need to notify you when we change the points on our scorecard?

Manu posted about the edit problem in the announcements forum. Should be fixed by now.

There's no need to notify me when you change the points. I usually check all cards when I do an update.