2010 Survivor Off-topic Chat

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Romance is the difference between erotica and porn.

You know it seems to me that if you have so many problems with the contests and this site then perhaps it has outlived its usefulness for you as a writer. Instead of complaining perhaps you should write somewhere else and leave this site for those of us happy to have a place to practice and learn.

I mean how many times of you back stabbed and cheated and for so little money. Oh btw, a pure romance writer makes a decent living at her trade. What about you? If you are doing so well as an author why are you complaining about a few hundred dollars?

As for me...I just hope that this pickering doesn't run off the newbies. Because this site and others needs fresh blood. I know I ain't going nowhere until I get good enough to be paid for it. So if you don't like to read my drivel...don't f'ing open my stories.

Sorry, but I'm not sure what you are trying to say when you talk with your mouthful of food, Chubby.

I have never complained about money, Honey. I have enough money, more than you and your family will make in ten lifetimes.

To me, it is about the story, which is why I don't have to work at the beat of some publisher's drum to make a living. I do this for fun. Only, it's people like you who continue to write your 864 word stories and call them stories, when they are not. They are shit, stories just written to score a point and fill a category in Survivor.

It is you, I dare say, who is whoring for a few dollars by writing your shitty, little stories.

It was very nice to have met you. Thank you so much for reponding to my post. Unfortunately, no one died and made you Queen of Literotica, so until Her Magesty Laurel asks me to leave, I'll stay.

 

[wife2hotblk]

Then just shut your mouth up and write...because the rest of us are tired of hearing you talk and saying nothing new. And as my friend told me to tell you...go f' yourself because I am sure no one else will asshole.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Then just shut your mouth up and write...because the rest of us are tired of hearing you talk and saying nothing new. And as my friend told me to tell you...go f' yourself because I am sure no one else will asshole.

Allow me to retort.

"Your mother!"

Aren't we nasty. What's the matter, no man will have anything to do with you because of how ugly you are? Haven't been laid in a long while? You have no one to buy you anything for Christmas and Valentine's Day?

You are such a sad little shit, aren't you? It's easy to push your buttons. All I have to do is hold up a mirror (lol).

 

[scouries]

QUOTE [size=+2]freddie [/size] I'm embarrassed to write that I participated in the Survivor Contest… In that light, have you read some of the entries by some of this year's Survivor's contestants? Their stories are terrible. The players only write them to score a point and to fill a category. Surely, they aren't writing for the reader for you or for me. None of them are quality stories.

Either we eliminate the Survivor Contest, truly it brings down the whole site or we adopt a 1,500 word minimum. It is more difficult writing a shitty 1,500 word story than it is writing a shitty 750 word story.

Anyway, I just wanted to give my opinion on the whole mess that is the Survivor Contest for 2010.

I feel bad for those who don't participate in the contest because you are the ones who have to wade through a few thousand shitty stories for find an erotic piece of literature, while watching your own masterpieces being flushed off the board by someone who wrote an 750 word story in 15 minutes. It doesn't seem fair does it?

I was tempted to enter this year’s SURVIVOR Contest. Not to win anything – I’ll never be prolific enough for that. The challenge for me was to try to write a story in every legitimate category (without using immunities) – a rare occurrence in previous contests.

In the end I decided not to participate. I think I might have entered if it weren’t for the Poetry, Illustrated, and Audio categories. These categories just inflict hundreds of SURVIVOR submissions on LITEROTICA readers, submissions that never would have been written (or should have been) had it not been for the contest.

I’d thought Poetry had been thrown out of the contest since there is a Poetry Survivor Contest but the 4 poetry categories still seem to be included. I wish they’d jettison them.

Re your suggestion that we change the word limit from 750 from 1500 words: I’ve never believed that the number of words is the important issue. However, I will concede that upping the limit will reduce the number of “submissions just for points” that invariably clog up the NEW STORY page.

In my opinion the biggest crime that the SURVIVOR contest inflicts upon us is the crap that is inflicted on us each December. I think the 2009 contest was the fourth year in a row in which one (or more) author “surprised” his opponents and unleashed a torrent of stories on the site over the last couple of weeks. Of course everyone remembers the infamous MUNGO but even this year’s winner used the MUNGO strategy to win.

I understand that it’s not against the rules to rush through 100 or so stories in the last days of the year like this year’s winner did. Nor does it mean that all the stories are bad (they may be excellent - perhaps he had been stockpiling them for months or years).

I hate it because it’s an insult to all our READERS.

And from the authors viewpoint it makes no sense. The author, who we assume has worked very hard to produce these stories, and who we further assume must want to have them read (why else write them – the prize money wouldn’t even pay a minimum wage?), publishes them in a way that ensures they’ll have the minimum readership. IDIOCY!

I’d like to see something done about this end of the year dumping!

james r scouries

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

How to ruin a contest?

How to ruin a contest?

Have any of you contestants in the 2010 Survivor Contest read any of Bakeboss's submissions?

He or she is ruining the contest, taking all the fun out of it, which is why the word minimum should be rasied to 1,500 instead of 750.

The stories this person is posting aren't even stories. They are shit. Yet, the moderators here will award points to each and every one of these pieces of shit because they meet the requirement of a story, 750 words.

This contest is a joke and you have one person, Bakeboss ruining the fun for everyone.

Well, Crimson, you got what you wanted with this person. Who knows, maybe Bakeboss is you or Lauren.

I think we have the 2010 Survivor Contest winner already. Only, who wants to win a contest like this? And for what? $500?

Good luck, Bakeboss. Go get 'em. Make your mother proud. I hope everyone here gives you the scores you deserve for making a joke of this contest.

Are you paying attention moderators? You've ruined this contest. I hope you're happy.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

PrincessAirHead

I just read a selection of PrincessErin's, I mean, Bakebosses stories and do you remember how back in 2007 so many of my stories were thrown in Reviews and Essays or Non-Erotic?

Well, that's not happening here, as it didn't happen last year with Crimson's friend PrincessErin, I mean, Bakeboss. Many of Bakebosses stories is without any sexual content, yet, she's filling categories by writing non-erotic stories. That's cheating, isn't it?

Do you remember how Lauren got on her high horse over my stories saying they were moved because they were devoid of sex, when in fact there were more sexual scenes in one of my stories than in 4 of PrincessErin's, I mean, Bakebosses 750 word stories.

Yeah, well, what didn't happen in 2007 with my stories is really happening in 2010 with Bakebosses stories. I don't think that's fair. Do you?

Tell me, for all those who are participating in this contest, is this the type of contest you want? How is writing one hundred plus 750 word stories surviving anything?

Don't believe me? Just read some of PrincessErin's, I mean, Bakebosses stories going back to January 2nd of this year. It will only take you a minute to read all 20 stories she's submitted, thus far. It's light reading, trust me.

Great contest Crmison. You're outdone yourself last year and this year promises to be even better with this kind of foolishness.

Tell me, is Erin just your friend or are you two closer than that? Just wondering why you allowed her, helped her, to win in 2008 and again in 2009 moving her up the money chart by disqualifying stories that shouldn't have been disqualified just to move Bakeboss, I mean, PrincessErin up in the standings.

I predict Bakeboss aka PrincessAirHead winning the 2010 Survivor Contest. Oh, and by the way, I'm not psychic, but I'm not naive, either. Definitely, I'm not dumb. I'm from Boston. Many of my family are in the Mafia. I know when a contest is fixed.

Yeah, this is how a contest should be run...fairly.

"Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!"

 

[wife2hotblk]

An Open Letter to my friends/competitors

Dear all,

As we have seen over the past fews days, some of the people here are so filled with hatred that they are trying to ruin this contest for the rest of us. I hope that we don't let them; especially those wonderful newbies that are putting themselves out there and jumping into this whole thing. I promise you don't have any idea how much it will change you if you let it.

PROs of Survivor:

It will encourage you to write. Hopefully everyday. Yes, some of that will be 750 words of drivel that you will cringe to read in a few months, but how long have you been waiting until you had it just perfect? You can edit, re-edit and never post anything, because it will never be perfect. If you think it has to be, read any paper or website. I bet you won't need to read long before you spot a few errors. Not that it makes it OK...just human.

It is fair. I placed last year and I don't know anyone at this site or have any magical connections. We are just amateur writers, who are putting our hearts, souls and deepest secrets out there because we have to. Write for ourself...first and foremost. Don't worry about what anyone else thinks, especially given the mind games that are being played right now. Stick it out and keep writing because it is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

Try everything. One of the best things about the way this contest is run is that it forces you to try out things that you might not ever try otherwise. Honestly, as a mother, the very idea of incest turns my stomach. So I had fun trying to come up with a story that I would enjoy in that category, but I did it in the end.

Always give YOUR best. Not my best. Not Shakespeare's best. Not even necessairly professional stuff. Just your best. Use this whole experience like you would a journal or rough drafts. Then when people send you their comments, good or bad, take what you find is true and discard the rest without a thought.

CONs:

It is harder than it looks and you deserve lots of credit just for giving it a shot.

The mind games that some people seem almost a need to play makes it even harder, especially when their comments are hurtful lies. So I hope that you will join with me and take a stand against this type of drivel by placing the offenders on the ignore list.

To Crimson and Lauren...thank you for all the hard, time consuming and thankless work you do every year. We do appreciate it.

To the other writers...don't let one person spoil this wonderful contest and site for us and our readers.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

You may write whatever nonsensical things that you feel you need to write to justify the shitty stories that you write and that Bakeboss writes, yet, you're missing the point of the contest, aren't you?

Sure, you can say that the one writer who writes the most stories wins, but you'll have to live with the ramifications of that on your personal page.

I write stories that makes me laugh and cry. I write stories that readers love reading and that I enjoy reading months and years after I've written them.

I dare say, if you read some of the stories that Bakeboss has already written, you'll do more than cringe. If you have a brain in your head, if you share the love of writing that I have, then you will understand that this contest is being ruined by those only wanting to score a point and fill a category.

With me, it's about the story and the love of writing. I'll defend how I feel about the way that I feel when creating a story.

I write the best stories that I know how to write and that is what makes me grow as a writer. Nothing is accomplished here by someone posting 750 words of shit, just as nothing is accomplished here by you defending that action. I'm ashamed of you.

You're not a real writer. I am.

 

[Bobby_3111]

You may write whatever nonsensical things that you feel you need to write to justify the shitty stories that you write and that Bakeboss writes, yet, you're missing the point of the contest, aren't you?

Sure, you can say that the one writer who writes the most stories wins, but you'll have to live with the ramifications of that on your personal page.

I write stories that makes me laugh and cry. I write stories that readers love reading and that I enjoy reading months and years after I've written them.

I dare say, if you read some of the stories that Bakeboss has already written, you'll do more than cringe. If you have a brain in your head, if you share the love of writing that I have, then you will understand that this contest is being ruined by those only wanting to score a point and fill a category.

With me, it's about the story and the love of writing. I'll defend how I feel about the way that I feel when creating a story.

I write the best stories that I know how to write and that is what makes me grow as a writer. Nothing is accomplished here by someone posting 750 words of shit, just as nothing is accomplished here by you defending that action. I'm ashamed of you.

You're not a real writer. I am.

*Plays a Violin*

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

*Plays a Violin*

You know, Bobby, for someone new here, you are already too big of an asshole to be new here.

Which makes me wonder, who's sock puppet are you?

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

"Bravo!"

Just a little reminder here: Any stories that either moderators find or have pointed out to them by other participants that do not fit the specifics of the category in which they are placed will be reported to Laurel to be moved to the appropriate category.

I've already noticed some non-erotic stuff being put into the Erotic categories. Play nice, people. It's awfully early to be skirting the rules.

Thank you, CrimsonMaiden. I'm so glad you've noticed that Bakeboss has been writing a dozen non-erotic stories, stories that do not contain any sexual content, and forcing them to fit in categories that do not apply.

It's nice to see a fair contest with a moderator doing her part to maintain the integrity of the contest by not allowing someone like Bakeboss to continue their cheating ways.

"Bravo!"

Maybe 2010 will be a better year for everyone. We can only hope.

Let this be a lesson to you, Bakeboss. There's no cheating allowed.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Gees, what the Hell was that? My head is still spinning. I was literally thrown from the News and Views Discussions and Announcements for the Survivorphile to here.

I guess some people don't like me voicing my opinion around here. Yet, my work is done, Bakeboss is put on notice that "she" cannot try and cheat anymore by writing non-sexual stories, stories that are devoid of sex, and call them something else.

Pathetic, isn't it? Wow, some people will do anything, including cheating just to win a few dollars. Things must be tough for Bakeboss. Maybe she needs to buy a few things, flower, sugar, and eggs.

Hey, Bakeboss, I feel bad. Give me your address and I'll send you some money so that you can continue being the boss of your own kitchen and baking.

Give me a list of the things you need to keep you baking instead of writing. Let's hope you're a better baker than you are a writer, because you really suck at writing.

Ah, I feel better now with that off my chest.

Any minute now the other big mouth bitch will be here, what's her face, wifenotsohotatall or was it wifesofat? Whatever.

 

[Bobby_3111]

You know, Bobby, for someone new here, you are already too big of an asshole to be new here.

Which makes me wonder, who's sock puppet are you?

I just think its amusing to annoy you and people like you. You enjoy hearing yourself talk, or in this case reading your own writing, so much so that you think if you dont win something then its all rigged or fixed in some way.

Sure you are deserving of pity, but not the type you want.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

I just think its amusing to annoy you and people like you. You enjoy hearing yourself talk, or in this case reading your own writing, so much so that you think if you dont win something then its all rigged or fixed in some way.

Sure you are deserving of pity, but not the type you want.

Annoyed, Crimson, I mean, Bobby, why would I be annoyed. You're the one who is the annoying one to yourself more than you are to me.

I just write stories. I don't get wrapped up in the politics and the gamemanship of this site.

It doesn't matter to me if I win or lose. I donate whatever monies I win anyway. I'm just here for the stories.

So...why are you here (lol)?

 

[Bobby_3111]

Annoyed, Crimson, I mean, Bobby, why would I be annoyed. You're the one who is the annoying one to yourself more than you are to me.

I just write stories. I don't get wrapped up in the politics and the gamemanship of this site.

It doesn't matter to me if I win or lose. I donate whatever monies I win anyway. I'm just here for the stories.

So...why are you here (lol)?

Delusional much ? So all that shit you post about cheating this or rigging that is you 'not getting wrapped up in' ? Jesus man, go see a doctor.

 

[PrincessErin]

.....

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Strange how people who have never participated in the contest are chatting it up and someone who hasn't participated in a year is all concerned about the well being of the contest.

BFW participated in 2009. Just under a different name.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Strange how people who have never participated in the contest are chatting it up and someone who hasn't participated in a year is all concerned about the well being of the contest.

Anyways just wanted to tell everyone that I bought two new books with my gift certificate that I won. So exciting to read them when I have some free time.

Freddie was in the 2009 contest under the name of Positive Thinker, and came in sixth. I outed him a couple of months age, and he admitted it, but now is denying that was he.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Strange how people who have never participated in the contest are chatting it up and someone who hasn't participated in a year is all concerned about the well being of the contest.

Anyways just wanted to tell everyone that I bought two new books with my gift certificate that I won. So exciting to read them when I have some free time.

I think it's more telling that there's no retort and denial from Bakeboss, don't you PrincessAirHead?

Did you buy cookbooks with your gift certificate, Bakeboss, I mean, PrincessAirHead?

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Freddie was in the 2009 contest under the name of Positive Thinker, and came in sixth. I outed him a couple of months age, and he admitted it, but now is denying that was he.

George, the only thing you've ever uncovered is when you flash your cock to unsuspecting women.

Get a life. Clean up your act and maybe they'll remove your name from the sex offender's list.

"Pedo."

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

BFW participated in 2009. Just under a different name.

So, moderator, what gives with the stories. I can't help but notice that many of Bakeboss's stories are non-erotic, devoid of any sex, yet, they are still posted in categories other than non-erotic.

I've reported all the violations to Laurel. When do you do your job and disqualify her stories or is that something you only do the day after the contest has ended?

 

[LindsayRae]

Wow. It looks like Lit's most prolific writer of shitty stories has his panties in a twist.

 

[wife2hotblk]

I have written several popular, even H stories, that have no sex. They are in a variety of categories including celebrities and novels. Will stories that contain no sex still be allowed in whatever category they apply? From my perspective, this site's name makes its distinctive...literature and erotica. Neither of those terms explicitly requires a sex act. All I want is that we clarify rules so that no one has any stories disqualified this year.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

So, moderator, what gives with the stories. I can't help but notice that many of Bakeboss's stories are non-erotic, devoid of any sex, yet, they are still posted in categories other than non-erotic.

I've reported all the violations to Laurel. When do you do your job and disqualify her stories or is that something you only do the day after the contest has ended?

1) I can only report stuff, Laurel moves them.
2) I do have a life outside this place, so excuse me if things don't get done as quickly as you want them to.
3) Scores and story entries on scorecards are not official until the contest ends. Therefore, nothing gets disqualified until scores are tabulated once the contest is over.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

I have written several popular, even H stories, that have no sex. They are in a variety of categories including celebrities and novels. Will stories that contain no sex still be allowed in whatever category they apply? From my perspective, this site's name makes its distinctive...literature and erotica. Neither of those terms explicitly requires a sex act. All I want is that we clarify rules so that no one has any stories disqualified this year.

There is a non-erotic category for a reason. Most of the other categories are considered "erotic", so they should have erotic content. A few of those can have non-erotic simply because of the type of category (Letters, How-To, Reviews). Your story is not going to be disqualified for not having erotic content. Any stories reported to me for this "violation" will be forwarded to Laurel. She makes the final decision on whether or not to move it or leave it. Whatever category the story is in at the end of the contest is where it will count for points (*if* it's in the right place on the scorecard).