A Fantasy : Being A Gangbang Whore In Motel Room

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your not a slave....your a dirty fucking whore-ass slut

Lucifer.

Somebody piss in your Wheaties this morning, dear?

I think he meant it as a compliment.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I personally think any guy who thinks he's the only one to ever do this to her, and therefor won't get anything, deserves what he gets for his egotism.

True, but then I also think beyond that to perhaps the wife and kids at home who might not have a clue where he is dipping his ego laden stick. I know people think you can be careful, screen by asking questions etc., even get a health certificate, but that is all only as good as the day/moment the test was taken (and presuming they have been honest about not being sexual prior to the day or within the time needed for things to incubate and show in a test...and for those who rely on the personal word, even if they are your best friend it is not foolproof.

I have found at least 80% of people when casually quizzed in conversation about sexual health issues are oblivious to the facts apart from what they know of HIV from advertising. Most have only a vague idea of what is out there at best, and even less know how you contract such things. Of course even testing can be useless if there is something new but undiscovered as was the case in the early days of AIDS. Then there is the trust issue of can you believe what they tell you which to me says if they are willing to dip their stick, they obviously don't have conerns of their own which then raises questions like why? is this something they do with others? are they unafraid because it is too late for them? if there are others involved how come they are not wary of the sexual health of those people with whom they will be interacting? Bottom line is you can't avoid some risk, but if someone is casual about their own safety, chances are they are even less concerned about yours.

Catalina

 

[graceanne]

True, but then I also think beyond that to perhaps the wife and kids at home who might not have a clue where he is dipping his ego laden stick. I know people think you can be careful, screen by asking questions etc., even get a health certificate, but that is all only as good as the day/moment the test was taken (and presuming they have been honest about not being sexual prior to the day or within the time needed for things to incubate and show in a test...and for those who rely on the personal word, even if they are your best friend it is not foolproof.

I have found at least 80% of people when casually quizzed in conversation about sexual health issues are oblivious to the facts apart from what they know of HIV from advertising. Most have only a vague idea of what is out there at best, and even less know how you contract such things. Of course even testing can be useless if there is something new but undiscovered as was the case in the early days of AIDS. Then there is the trust issue of can you believe what they tell you which to me says if they are willing to dip their stick, they obviously don't have conerns of their own which then raises questions like why? is this something they do with others? are they unafraid because it is too late for them? if there are others involved how come they are not wary of the sexual health of those people with whom they will be interacting? Bottom line is you can't avoid some risk, but if someone is casual about their own safety, chances are they are even less concerned about yours.

Catalina

I agree. Nonetheless, everyone knows that if you have unprotected sex you might get something. And it's obvious if they're doing this and they're married that they (a) have permission - in which case wifey should make sure he's wearing a condom or (b) don't know, and he's a selfish asshole. Either way, he should know to wear a condom with a stranger, and especially a stranger who you SEE is getting screwed by several other men.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I agree. Nonetheless, everyone knows that if you have unprotected sex you might get something. And it's obvious if they're doing this and they're married that they (a) have permission - in which case wifey should make sure he's wearing a condom or (b) don't know, and he's a selfish asshole. Either way, he should know to wear a condom with a stranger, and especially a stranger who you SEE is getting screwed by several other men.

Unfortunately if the wife is unaware there is little responsibility you can throw her way. Has happened before and your life is a very expensive payment to make for someone else's stupidity and selfishness.

Catalina

 

[Netzach]

Unfortunately if the wife is unaware there is little responsibility you can throw her way. Has happened before and your life is a very expensive payment to make for someone else's stupidity and selfishness.

Catalina

If they are that hell bent on unprotected sex they are going to do it with someone else if not (in theory) the slave being whored out.

 

[Semler]

Wow, you guys sure sucked the life out of a good thread.

 

[catalina_francisco]

If they are that hell bent on unprotected sex they are going to do it with someone else if not (in theory) the slave being whored out.

True, but that doesn't help the unsuspecting wife whose husband is such an irresponsible twit behind her back.

C

 

[chris9]

Wow, you guys sure sucked the life out of a good thread.

Well, if people feel they need to talk about a specific subject, and something brings it up and about, it has to be talked about.

 

[Semler]

Well, if people feel they need to talk about a specific subject, and something brings it up and about, it has to be talked about.

Then they sould start a new thread and let this one stay on subject.

 

[canadiancutie]

Then they sould start a new thread and let this one stay on subject.

It is still on subject. Safety is part of the subject

 

[catalina_francisco]

Then they sould start a new thread and let this one stay on subject.

LOL, I thought it was remaining very much on topic......discussing gangbangs covers a lot of areas to be considered or dealt with, not just the old in and out wham bam thank you maam. If someone is contemplating it and asks the advice or experiences of others here, they are likely going to have safety in various areas raised.

Catalina

 

[ownedsubgal]

LOL, I don't actually class this under RACK or SSC as I do not see it as a specific D/s thing as many vanilla people do it also. I'm with Netzach though in that the buck does not stop with your body, or your Master's and those who would willingly run the risk are probably sending a big loud message in that they are not to be expected to be that trustworthy, clean or smart about it all anyway. To each their own though.

Catalina

i would not go so far as to say that those who willingly engage in unprotected sex are automatically untrustworhy, unclean, or stupid. but that is all aside from the fact which holds true for you, i, and every other slave in the lifestyle, that an Owner has full right to do absolutely whatever they wish to, or with, their property. and our place is not to question or judge their decisions.

as far as sharing in this way being specifically D/s, no it is not, but within a D/s relationship, everything in that union is going to revolve around that power "exchange."

i agree with others that on this and many other topics, the safety/risk issue is not merely mentioned, but beaten into the ground. not to mention the fact that many such "warnings" often ignore the dynamics of a D/s or M/s union completely.

 

[graceanne]

i would not go so far as to say that those who willingly engage in unprotected sex are automatically untrustworhy, unclean, or stupid. but that is all aside from the fact which holds true for you, i, and every other slave in the lifestyle, that an Owner has full right to do absolutely whatever they wish to, or with, their property. and our place is not to question or judge their decisions.

as far as sharing in this way being specifically D/s, no it is not, but within a D/s relationship, everything in that union is going to revolve around that power "exchange."

i agree with others that on this and many other topics, the safety/risk issue is not merely mentioned, but beaten into the ground. not to mention the fact that many such "warnings" often ignore the dynamics of a D/s or M/s union completely.

I'm not saying it's not ok, or anything like that. I figure you've given your master his consent, and this is between you and him.

I'm just saying that you gotta give people a little more credit. They know that they're not the only one's using you, they can see that their are other with them. So either they trust the men they're with to not have anything, or they're stupid. There would, I assume, also be some trust they have that your master wouldn't put you in that position if you had something.

 

[ownedsubgal]

I'm not saying it's not ok, or anything like that. I figure you've given your master his consent, and this is between you and him.

I'm just saying that you gotta give people a little more credit. They know that they're not the only one's using you, they can see that their are other with them. So either they trust the men they're with to not have anything, or they're stupid. There would, I assume, also be some trust they have that your master wouldn't put you in that position if you had something.

believe it or not, there are quite a few men who will gladly have unprotected sex w/a total stranger...and not out of stupidity, but simply bcause they loathe condoms and the risks of it all only make it more exciting/erotic for them. one would think, from reading this thread, that those wo regularly engage in casual unprotected sex are in a minority, but in my own experiences, before and since being owned, only a small handful of my partners used condoms without being asked or told to do so. even fewer mentioned the issue of disease or infection.

 

[catalina_francisco]

believe it or not, there are quite a few men who will gladly have unprotected sex w/a total stranger...and not out of stupidity, but simply bcause they loathe condoms and the risks of it all only make it more exciting/erotic for them.

To each their own osg, but my definition is they have to be stupid, simply for the reasons you gave for their not using protection, and that is putting it mildly.

one would think, from reading this thread, that those wo regularly engage in casual unprotected sex are in a minority, but in my own experiences, before and since being owned, only a small handful of my partners used condoms without being asked or told to do so. even fewer mentioned the issue of disease or infection.

Ummmm, this does not surprise me and was my whole point.....the huge majority of people, even those who do not engage in unprotected sex with strangers, fail everytime I give them a short and simple verbal quiz on the most common STD's, the protection needed to give them a chance of remaining healthy, and how they are contracted. It surprises me given the information is so readily available. But hey, if they like the idea of having a fuck, great or lousy, with someone they don't know and unprotected and then being saddled with a lifelong disease or dead in a matter of a few years that is their choice...personally even though I am twice your age, no fuck is going to be worth openly inviting either of those alternatives into our lives. It is also worth noting the choice is made to protect me, but also him...don't know about you, but I could not forgive myself if I was the one to bring about his death or suffering so I am grateful he feels the same and minimises risk as much as possible under the circumstances.

Catalina

 

[graceanne]

believe it or not, there are quite a few men who will gladly have unprotected sex w/a total stranger...and not out of stupidity, but simply bcause they loathe condoms and the risks of it all only make it more exciting/erotic for them. one would think, from reading this thread, that those wo regularly engage in casual unprotected sex are in a minority, but in my own experiences, before and since being owned, only a small handful of my partners used condoms without being asked or told to do so. even fewer mentioned the issue of disease or infection.

Ok. And with that all I gotta say is . . . men are weird. But I've been saying it for a while. lol I guess they still are like teenagers and think they'll live forever.

 

[ownedsubgal]

To each their own osg, but my definition is they have to be stupid, simply for the reasons you gave for their not using protection, and that is putting it mildly.



Ummmm, this does not surprise me and was my whole point.....the huge majority of people, even those who do not engage in unprotected sex with strangers, fail everytime I give them a short and simple verbal quiz on the most common STD's, the protection needed to give them a chance of remaining healthy, and how they are contracted. It surprises me given the information is so readily available. But hey, if they like the idea of having a fuck, great or lousy, with someone they don't know and unprotected and then being saddled with a lifelong disease or dead in a matter of a few years that is their choice...personally even though I am twice your age, no fuck is going to be worth openly inviting either of those alternatives into our lives. It is also worth noting the choice is made to protect me, but also him...don't know about you, but I could not forgive myself if I was the one to bring about his death or suffering so I am grateful he feels the same and minimises risk as much as possible under the circumstances.

Catalina

i also used to worry obsessively about that very thing...what if i contracted something, incurable or even fatal, and passed it on to my Master/Love of my life? but i was forgetting exactly what i am...a slave. not an equal partner, with equal say, choices, or rights. i know my Master is a very intellignt man. i know he's well aware of the dangers of unprotected sex of any kind, as well as the dangers of being with strangers, condoms or not. as Netzach mentioned, some like to live on the edge. what place do i have to question him or his desires, no matter the risk? none at all. i had to learn that lesson the hard way. He made it clear (painfully so) that taking care of his property (even for his sake) is his job alone, and that i am to obey always, in action and in thought. so i am not to worry about such things. 2 points i am to remember if such fears ever crop up again:

1. he has full right to take any risks with my life (or even end my life) that he pleases.
2. he can always protect himself by not using me sexually whatsoever and fulfilling those needs elsewhere.

now on another note, i think most folks are wll aware of the risks of unprotected sex, and still willingly engage in such activities...unlike you, i'm not so quick to label someone as stupid. especially understanding eroticism and perversion as i do, and how bringing condoms, dental dams and such into the mix can often change the atmosphere of a sexual moment entirely, until for many it is no longer something even resembling their desires. that rawness and purity is just lost.

but i have a question for you Catalina, if you are permitted to answer...your responses so far give the impression that YOU make such decisions, such choices, as far as protection w/others is concerned. for instance you said you could not live w/yourself if you passed a disease onto your Master...well neither could i, but i don't have any say or control in the matter....do you? would you disobey him if ever he demanded such a thing?

 

[catalina_francisco]

i also used to worry obsessively about that very thing...what if i contracted something, incurable or even fatal, and passed it on to my Master/Love of my life? but i was forgetting exactly what i am...a slave. not an equal partner, with equal say, choices, or rights. i know my Master is a very intellignt man. i know he's well aware of the dangers of unprotected sex of any kind, as well as the dangers of being with strangers, condoms or not. as Netzach mentioned, some like to live on the edge. what place do i have to question him or his desires, no matter the risk? none at all. i had to learn that lesson the hard way. He made it clear (painfully so) that taking care of his property (even for his sake) is his job alone, and that i am to obey always, in action and in thought. so i am not to worry about such things. 2 points i am to remember if such fears ever crop up again:

1. he has full right to take any risks with my life (or even end my life) that he pleases.
2. he can always protect himself by not using me sexually whatsoever and fulfilling those needs elsewhere.

now on another note, i think most folks are wll aware of the risks of unprotected sex, and still willingly engage in such activities...unlike you, i'm not so quick to label someone as stupid. especially understanding eroticism and perversion as i do, and how bringing condoms, dental dams and such into the mix can often change the atmosphere of a sexual moment entirely, until for many it is no longer something even resembling their desires. that rawness and purity is just lost.

but i have a question for you Catalina, if you are permitted to answer...your responses so far give the impression that YOU make such decisions, such choices, as far as protection w/others is concerned. for instance you said you could not live w/yourself if you passed a disease onto your Master...well neither could i, but i don't have any say or control in the matter....do you? would you disobey him if ever he demanded such a thing?

LOL, good slave competition aside, did I say it was my decision?...thought I mentioned it was his as in caring for his property, and my peace of mind came from him taking that responsibility and knowing he was making the decisions which would also protect him as much as possible.

Catalina

 

[Etoile]

I'd just like to slip in a mention of the fact that it is illegal in many jurisdictions to knowingly transmit HIV to someone else. I'm pretty sure it's illegal even if the recipient has expressed a desire to get sick. (There was a Rolling Stone article about "bug chasers" - an interesting read if it's archived somewhere online.)

I'm not saying this in relation to D/s in any way, just mentioning it as a "knowingly transmitting a disease" thing in general.

Some links: Bug Chasers article * debunking by GLAAD (I had forgotten that the article was largely fictional, but that doesn't change my point about the law, only the part about the recipient wanting to get sick.)

 

[ownedsubgal]

LOL, good slave competition aside, did I say it was my decision?...thought I mentioned it was his as in caring for his property, and my peace of mind came from him taking that responsibility and knowing he was making the decisions which would also protect him as much as possible.

Catalina

lol, no competition. as far as i know, you are a good slave to yours, and i am a good slave to Daddy (well, 99% of the time). yes i saw you mention briefly it was his decision, but many other comments of yours seemingly contradicted that, so i was confused. for ex., if ever your Master decided you would be shared sexually w/no health precautions taken whatsoever, in this thread you have clearly stated that he would be stupid, untrustworhy, careless, etc. is why i have learned not to make such judgements, as they may (and have) come to bite me in the bum later.

 

[Netzach]

osg brings up a good point...we can't legislate or medicalize sexuality to the point where there's no risk. It's sex, that's why it's sticky. If it was just an issue of not blowing snot on each other there'd be less of an issue.

When someone says "I fantasize about being whored out" my next question is not necessarily "are you going to use rubbers?" I'm more interested in the way that unfolds in their head.

I can hope that they will, but nagging them is never going to be the solution. In fact, I think some of the rhetoric of health professionals and safe-sex advocates has contributed to a kind of safe-sex backlash. Focusing so much on responsibility and rubber has drained sex of a lot of eroticism, especially among gay men, but not exclusively.

Personally, I don't have condoms or dams or gloves in my fantasies but I do in my reality, religiously so. I can only handle one immune disorder at a time.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Personally, I don't have condoms or dams or gloves in my fantasies but I do in my reality, religiously so. I can only handle one immune disorder at a time.

LOL, that's the way it works for us as well....I have been in the position too many times of listening to people stressed to the max while awaiting test results and asking over and over why they did not use protection. Sadly, if the health figures are any indication, WHO says there has been an increase in cases of HIV and many STD's in the heterosexual population in particular of most western nations with Scotland recording it's highest figure yet. I just figure it is all fun in the moment but one needs to think beyond the moment sometimes. I think for the supposedly intelligent species we can be awfully foolish sometimes.

Catalina

 

[catalina_francisco]

for ex., if ever your Master decided you would be shared sexually w/no health precautions taken whatsoever, in this thread you have clearly stated that he would be stupid, untrustworhy, careless, etc. is why i have learned not to make such judgements, as they may (and have) come to bite me in the bum later.

Gee, I better contact Manu because obviously your screen is showing something I never even typed!!! Now just where in this thread, or any for that matter, have I said F would be stupid etc.? See the difference here is I know him well enough to know he is not about to do that because he respects his own body too much for starters, and as I'm sure you recall he has often mentioned he hopes to spend a long life together so isn't into playing russian roulette with our health for a moment's thrill. If you want to play one of those 'but what if' games, count me out as I just think they are ridiculous and prove nothing.

As to it seeming I am making the decision.....sorry, but once again he has been more than vocal on the board that one of the main reasons he was attracted to me in the beginning and now is for my brain, so he uses it to the best advantage for him in getting me to talk to people we may be interested in and he refers to me, share my opinion with him and see if we both get the same feeling and feedback from them, then he makes his decision. It certainly saves him precious time, and relieves him of doing some things he prefers not to waste time on...after all, serving is what it is all about isn't it...why shouldn't he use a valueable asset in the way which best benefits him instead of running himself into the ground trying to prove he is superman and superdom and superhuman all rolled into one? LOL, though given the fact he is flat out fielding calls from other countries trying to lure him to go work for them, he just might be all that and then some!!

Catalina

 

[Etoile]

he is superman and superdom and superhuman all rolled into one

Okay, I couldn't resist. I was having trouble with finding a dom, but I found a domme. Not very good, made it real quick, but there it is!

 

[catalina_francisco]

Okay, I couldn't resist. I was having trouble with finding a dom, but I found a domme. Not very good, made it real quick, but there it is!

LOL, maybe that would be for my daughter!!

Catalina