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[Homburg]

Simultaneously? Sounds way too busy. The bottom could get lost in overstimulation pretty quickly.

 

[nh23]

Simultaneously? Sounds way too busy. The bottom could get lost in overstimulation pretty quickly.

We'll do several things in one scene. Flogging, caning, wax play, cutting. Sometimes we have scenes that last for hours where we do a ton of stuff. Like I said though I have a high pain tolerance. Sometimes it takes all that before I see subspace.

 

[nh23]

Ooh, pretty needles.

Thank you!

 

[Homburg]

We'll do several things in one scene. Flogging, caning, wax play, cutting. Sometimes we have scenes that last for hours where we do a ton of stuff. Like I said though I have a high pain tolerance. Sometimes it takes all that before I see subspace.

Oh, I do a lot of different things at times too. I was just looking at the list and the idea that she was suggesting a load of things going on all while doing forced oral and anal during a suspension.

 

[nh23]

Oh, I do a lot of different things at times too. I was just looking at the list and the idea that she was suggesting a load of things going on all while doing forced oral and anal during a suspension.

Oh, lol. That could be possible I suppose, but I think it would be waiting for an accident to happen. Like a needle in the wrong place or something.

 

[ownedsubgal]

It's a thin veneer indeed though, like a creme brulee; warm me, crack the surface and watch me melt.

now you just made me want creme brulee.

 

[WearMeWell]

Oh, I do a lot of different things at times too. I was just looking at the list and the idea that she was suggesting a load of things going on all while doing forced oral and anal during a suspension.

*lol...i guess i pretty much made him sound like a ticked off tenticle monster--

*curtsey....*my apologies; as i said, i wasn't operating at full capacity the other evening.

ok, *revamping...

Tied, arms behind back, hands on elbows- fancy rope work around breasts and uh,-*blush warming my cheeks* -lower,--stroking and stimulation and the riding crop...then applied nipple clamps(no weights-yet) kissing and stimulation- followed by a few slaps of the crop on breasts,...then the clit clamp(no weight yet)-- continue in this vein,-building level to level and checking physical, and emotional reactions and condition,- until you reach the level with weights on the clamps, forced oral or anal, etc.

*pressing backs of cool fingers along hot pink cheeks~...*swallows and clears throat softly~ ...goodness.


Ok. was that alittle better?--less like a ticked off tenticle monster?-*giggle~

Also, I think some of the point was "overload"

*oh, and nh?...i couldnt see the pic on this computer...*sorry. I'll try la-
*hears beeper*...ok, my time is gone; I'll have to ask what i really want to know about this scenario on Monday...

 

[Homburg]

*lol...i guess i pretty much made him sound like a ticked off tenticle monster--

*curtsey....*my apologies; as i said, i wasn't operating at full capacity the other evening.

ok, *revamping...

Tied, arms behind back, hands on elbows- fancy rope work around breasts and uh,-*blush warming my cheeks* -lower,--stroking and stimulation and the riding crop...then applied nipple clamps(no weights-yet) kissing and stimulation- followed by a few slaps of the crop on breasts,...then the clit clamp(no weight yet)-- continue in this vein,-building level to level and checking physical, and emotional reactions and condition,- until you reach the level with weights on the clamps, forced oral or anal, etc.

I don't see suspension here. That's really where I was having issues. Suspension is complex work, and hanging enough rope to suspend well usually gets in the way of many of the other activities. I could probably come up with a suspension that allowed that, but, well, difficult and worky. Not usually conducive to a good scene.

Also, I think some of the point was "overload"

Sure, though describing it as progression means that it will be processed differently. The simultaneous part was where I had the problems.

 

[WearMeWell]

nh23?---aka "perfectly precious princess peachy"... I saw the picture of the needlework/play...*pretty ribbon--gave me the willies though: lol
needle play is definitely not for me...

I don't see suspension here. That's really where I was having issues. Suspension is complex work, and hanging enough rope to suspend well usually gets in the way of many of the other activities. I could probably come up with a suspension that allowed that, but, well, difficult and worky. Not usually conducive to a good scene.



Sure, though describing it as progression means that it will be processed differently. The simultaneous part was where I had the problems.

*curtsey, Thank you Homburg-- I have never experienced most of what i listed in the "scene example." In wanting to understand the more "sadistic"(forgive the term if need be) scenes and Doms, I constructed the scenario from personal curiosities and offers i've had in the past.

I appreciate the input, and i apologize for casting doubt on those theoretical persons and situations--including my sanity. lol

*curtsey...Thank you again.

 

[WearMeWell]

*Round Four ? *

Has anyone explored accupressure combined with Myoskeletal Alignment Techniques and "trigger point" massage therapy as scene material?

 

[Homburg]

*Round Four ? *

Has anyone explored accupressure combined with Myoskeletal Alignment Techniques and "trigger point" massage therapy as scene material?

I've done pressure point work for the purpose of pain in MMA context, but don't tend to do it in scene. Those sorts of techniques are "safe" in the MMA world because they are held for short periods of time when used in sparring. And when they are used in a real life confrontation, you aren't exactly worried about what sort of damage you are doing. You're worried about stopping the assailant. On a long-term partner, I'm less willing to chance it. Not only is there always a chance of nerve or blood vessel damage with such techniques, it is usually not "good" pain.

I do trigger point work as part of recovery, but not for scene either. It is just not how I do things. I'm not going to turn a treatment like that into a sexual technique largely because I want accurate feedback when I am using it for recuperative purposes. If MIS were to connect myofascial release to sexual feelings, she would not react properly to the treatment when I work on her bum shoulder. That is counterproductive. I have lots of ways to to cause pain and don't need to muck with one of the most effective tools I've got for treating soft-tissue issues.

 

[Adakgirl]

Needleplay I did on BiBunny's back.

Very nice pic.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Needleplay I did on BiBunny's back.

HEY! I can do that!

 

[nh23]

Very nice pic.

Thank you!

HEY! I can do that!

Fun isn't it!

 

[Kajira Callista]

Thank you!


Fun isn't it!

heh...i wonder if i could make some side money doin' it.

 

[nh23]

heh...i wonder if i could make some side money doin' it.

Probably. I do it for friends, and teach friends for free. But fetish stuff tends to pay well. If you put an ad somewhere you may get a few people willing to pay for it. Like anything else though I'd worry about safety. (craigslist killers and all that)

 

[Kajira Callista]

Probably. I do it for friends, and teach friends for free. But fetish stuff tends to pay well. If you put an ad somewhere you may get a few people willing to pay for it. Like anything else though I'd worry about safety. (craigslist killers and all that)

I have a few very big n furry guy friends that would love to tag along if asked lol

 

[nh23]

I have a few very big n furry guy friends that would love to tag along if asked lol

There ya go! If you really need the extra cash, I'd look into it. Master does a fetish type of sexual work and it pays really well. People are willing to pay quite a bit for their sexual adventures. Especially men. Find you a few maso subbie boys and stick away.

 

[Kajira Callista]

There ya go! If you really need the extra cash, I'd look into it. Master does a fetish type of sexual work and it pays really well. People are willing to pay quite a bit for their sexual adventures. Especially men. Find you a few maso subbie boys and stick away.

LOL when i make my first million i will remember you.

 

[nh23]

LOL when i make my first million i will remember you.

 

[WearMeWell]

I've done pressure point work for the purpose of pain in MMA context, but don't tend to do it in scene. Those sorts of techniques are "safe" in the MMA world because they are held for short periods of time when used in sparring. And when they are used in a real life confrontation, you aren't exactly worried about what sort of damage you are doing. You're worried about stopping the assailant. On a long-term partner, I'm less willing to chance it. Not only is there always a chance of nerve or blood vessel damage with such techniques, it is usually not "good" pain.

I do trigger point work as part of recovery, but not for scene either. It is just not how I do things. I'm not going to turn a treatment like that into a sexual technique largely because I want accurate feedback when I am using it for recuperative purposes. If MIS were to connect myofascial release to sexual feelings, she would not react properly to the treatment when I work on her bum shoulder. That is counterproductive. I have lots of ways to to cause pain and don't need to muck with one of the most effective tools I've got for treating soft-tissue issues.

*curtsey...Thank you, again, Homburg. Most of me concurs with your answers. (*soft smile holding a giggle~) I, too, concur that accupressure, trigger points and myoskeletal alignment, etc...are powerful things, and not(necessarily) things to be use "play" tools. I think their true purpose and benefits should be preserved for just that...

Now for another probable "newb" question...Do you,(or anyone else paying attention to ths thread) know of a way to achieve the same....rich, thorough, depth of "discomfort," through some other means that would not need much else other than the person?

*looks at prefectly precious princess peachy~...and definittely no needles...
(lol...*sorry. )

I have had to have therapy on a few areas, and--much to my chagrin-- found myself having to tightly control the results of the sensations at times.
--that "revelation" made having to go in for therapy a wee bit --*blush~ uhm,...bittersweet?

Anyway, *fans warming cheeks* I am very interested in hearing the responses to this...

 

[Homburg]

Now for another probable "newb" question...Do you,(or anyone else paying attention to ths thread) know of a way to achieve the same....rich, thorough, depth of "discomfort," through some other means that would not need much else other than the person?

Pink is hard to read.

For "discomfort" not requiring too much in the way of props, look into stress positions. Think Catholic School, or "one-room schoolhouse" punishments. Stuff like holding a penny to the wall with your nose, hands behind your back. For added fun, hold said penny on its' edge. Kneel on pencils, grains of rice. Hold a book in each hand, arms stretched fully out to the side, palms up. For added fun, balance a book on the head. In each case, it has to be held for quite a while.

It sounds stupid, but definitely ranks as "discomfort".

 

[nh23]

*looks at prefectly precious princess peachy~...and definittely no needles...
(lol...*sorry. )

I have had to have therapy on a few areas, and--much to my chagrin-- found myself having to tightly control the results of the sensations at times.
--that "revelation" made having to go in for therapy a wee bit --*blush~ uhm,...bittersweet?

Anyway, *fans warming cheeks* I am very interested in hearing the responses to this...

*giggles* Ever tried a TENS?

 

[WearMeWell]

*giggles* Ever tried a TENS?

YES!!!...and i adored it! *shiver*

but then i began to miss "thick warm intelligent flesh" manipulating me into positions that gave that nice burn in my muscles --while feeling next to helpless against the thick wall of warm masculine muscle that was controlling me...

*blinks...wooh. *hushes, realising im saying too much... *blush suffusion~

*begins looking around...--wondering where i stashed that tens unit....
*giggle~

 

[WearMeWell]

Pink is hard to read.
*curtsey,...my apologies, and thank you, --I'll remember.

For "discomfort" not requiring too much in the way of props, look into stress positions. Think Catholic School, or "one-room schoolhouse" punishments. Stuff like holding a penny to the wall with your nose, hands behind your back. For added fun, hold said penny on its' edge. Kneel on pencils, grains of rice. Hold a book in each hand, arms stretched fully out to the side, palms up. For added fun, balance a book on the head. In each case, it has to be held for quite a while.

It sounds stupid, but definitely ranks as "discomfort".

LOL!...yes,...and quite masochistic. *big grin*

I've done the book thing...standing, walking, and while going up and down stairs...--but, not part of anything "fun." *lol and, i was only 8, so...*Sigh...definitely droll.
*FYI,....never tell your parent, grandmother, tutor or guardian, "I'm bored."
some of the greatest closet sadists manifest (to a degree)when those words are uttered....

Ok...so, any ideas on something that would include another warm body manipulating you(rs)?

*having misty visions of tens unit application while being tied up and stretched in some fashion...
--but, they are misty because i know next to nothing on how something of that nature would be effected...

Also, what do you (any of you)know of something called "figging?'...and, are there other things along the same vein as "figging?"

*curtsey, head lowering slightly~

Thank you for your time and patience; they are much appreciated...

Respectfully,
WMW~