Brain Wide Shut?

[Joe Schmoe]

Does anyone here ever stick to the topic?????

It's really hard to answer the original post, because to replies get SO far off topic, and the way the posts are displayed (at least for me) whejn I try to reply I can't see what the original post WAS!!!!

Not to flame, but - can't you guys chat someplace away from a forum?

This might help. It is the way I view things here or on any forum.

It is no different than a group of people talking face to face. It starts with a topic and along the way some of the conversation deviates to tangents then swerves back to the original subject. Some may branch off entirely to something else but the majority continues with the topic until it ends at some point.

 

[Ma Petite]

If I am actually asleep? Let me sleep!

AMEN!!!!

as for putting the mind to rest, for me, writing things down before I go to be and having a pen and paper there for me if i have to wake up and write somthing helps, sometimes.

Yes physical labor helps, but sometimes it puts you in a state of blah... rather then mind shutting off. Martial arts/aerobic/swimming/ some form of physical activity that you do consistantly (yoga, pilaties, simple stretching) helps out for me a lot. I havent done it recently, but when i use to do an hour to an hour and a half of stretching every day and simple in home exercises i found it easier to shut my mind of when i wanted to during the day and found it easier to just fall asleep at night because my body said it needed to. (it probably helped i got up at the same time every day and forced myself to do this until it became habbit) I also liked the extreme kinky flexability that i shortly developed. As a result of these simple things, and the "diet i was on", i ended up with extra energy that encouraged me to go for a walk or go outside a lot more. Hell, i was surprised that i ended up dropping 5 pant sizes in less then 3 months.

Eh... rambling. Basicaly simple patterns have helped me and others I've encouraged to try them to shut their mind off easier. Doing regular activities, if my mind is active when i go to bed, i find i can simply write a few things down (like a list of what needs to be done or a sketch that's in my head) and i'll fall asleep shortly afterward. This puts me in a better mood and things like meditation or simply interacting with people end up just happening without having to FORCE my mind to shut off, so i can just enjoy what is going on around me. Smell the roses rather then walk past them.

Dunno, guess i'm rambling. hope something helped! I kinda got lost in what i was going to say as i'm sitting here just kinda happy. PM me if you want clarification etc... on anything i've said. I dont feel like re reading it so it could very possibly make absolutely no sense. ^_^ oops.

 

[FurryFury]

AMEN!!!!

as for putting the mind to rest, for me, writing things down before I go to be and having a pen and paper there for me if i have to wake up and write somthing helps, sometimes.

Yes physical labor helps, but sometimes it puts you in a state of blah... rather then mind shutting off. Martial arts/aerobic/swimming/ some form of physical activity that you do consistantly (yoga, pilaties, simple stretching) helps out for me a lot. I havent done it recently, but when i use to do an hour to an hour and a half of stretching every day and simple in home exercises i found it easier to shut my mind of when i wanted to during the day and found it easier to just fall asleep at night because my body said it needed to. (it probably helped i got up at the same time every day and forced myself to do this until it became habbit) I also liked the extreme kinky flexability that i shortly developed. As a result of these simple things, and the "diet i was on", i ended up with extra energy that encouraged me to go for a walk or go outside a lot more. Hell, i was surprised that i ended up dropping 5 pant sizes in less then 3 months.

Eh... rambling. Basicaly simple patterns have helped me and others I've encouraged to try them to shut their mind off easier. Doing regular activities, if my mind is active when i go to bed, i find i can simply write a few things down (like a list of what needs to be done or a sketch that's in my head) and i'll fall asleep shortly afterward. This puts me in a better mood and things like meditation or simply interacting with people end up just happening without having to FORCE my mind to shut off, so i can just enjoy what is going on around me. Smell the roses rather then walk past them.

Dunno, guess i'm rambling. hope something helped! I kinda got lost in what i was going to say as i'm sitting here just kinda happy. PM me if you want clarification etc... on anything i've said. I dont feel like re reading it so it could very possibly make absolutely no sense. ^_^ oops.

Ah Ma Petite!

I've been noticing you and of course, your site nick name!

I actually followed that very well though I rarely feel I have an hour to an hour and a half to put into such things, your ideas do make sense to me.

Welcome to the thread and thanks for you contribution.

Fury

 

[Ma Petite]

For me that was in highschool, over the summer when i had nothing better to do but try and ignore my mother in hopes of preventing toment and conflict. Now, a few minute in the morning or right before i got to bed (like say 15 -20 minutes) really really helps. In the morning, getting up at the same time and doing stetching/easy work out things before breakfast feels wonderful! before bed, if i do it, it helps me tire out.

I"m hoping to get into a regular workout routein though school now. The college has great yoga, tai chi and aquatics programs, all of which sound yummy.

Fury- thanks for the compliment. What about the nick name have you been noticing?

-Tears

 

[FurryFury]

Exercise upon waking and before eating? Oh nooooo! That is so not good for me.

You are welcome Ma Petite. Your name conjures up the main character in one of my all time favorite books Guilty Pleasures by Laurell K. Hamilton. Such delicious books are rare to find and one remembers such confections well.

Fury

 

[mrJohnJones]

It's not easy, I know

I had this problem until I went in the service and started taking Martial arts. Our sensei was big on self-defense only and self-discovery (meditation, tai-chi, etc).

You should pick up a books on these subjects just to try them out. I found that finding a place you can be alone at least once a day for a half-hour or more and practice these methods helps a lot.

Sometimes I 'd do it outside, like on a quiet beach or the woods. That was my favorite. But if I was at home, I had a place I set up for this purpose, with pictures, symbols, etc, that made me comfortable.

The mind can be a reluctant submissive. You have to be the dominant. You really can control it if you dedicate the time.

How's THAT for a silly analogy?

Phil

 

[FurryFury]

I had this problem until I went in the service and started taking Martial arts. Our sensei was big on self-defense only and self-discovery (meditation, tai-chi, etc).

You should pick up a books on these subjects just to try them out. I found that finding a place you can be alone at least once a day for a half-hour or more and practice these methods helps a lot.

Sometimes I 'd do it outside, like on a quiet beach or the woods. That was my favorite. But if I was at home, I had a place I set up for this purpose, with pictures, symbols, etc, that made me comfortable.

The mind can be a reluctant submissive. You have to be the dominant. You really can control it if you dedicate the time.

How's THAT for a silly analogy?

Phil

Hi Phil!

I don't thinks it's so silly. I do think meditation and things like Tai Chi can help. I practice those things but not often enough. You have a good idea here. I should try to force these things into my daily routine.

When I was first pregnant and walked out on, I did some meditation every day and it really did help.

*hugs*

Fury

 

[mrJohnJones]

Thanks!

Hi Phil!

I don't thinks it's so silly. I do think meditation and things like Tai Chi can help. I practice those things but not often enough. You have a good idea here. I should try to force these things into my daily routine.

When I was first pregnant and walked out on, I did some meditation every day and it really did help.

*hugs*

Fury

It did help me a lot. You're right, though. You have to force yourself to set aside some quiet time.

Sorry to hear about the one that wlaked out on you while you were pregnant. Turns my stomach when I hear about those kind.

But when I said silly, I meant the brain/sub to be dominated. That was kind of a silly analogy. But it was fun, anyway.

*Hugggggers* back



Phil

 

[Marquis]

I had this problem until I went in the service and started taking Martial arts. Our sensei was big on self-defense only and self-discovery (meditation, tai-chi, etc).

You should pick up a books on these subjects just to try them out. I found that finding a place you can be alone at least once a day for a half-hour or more and practice these methods helps a lot.

Sometimes I 'd do it outside, like on a quiet beach or the woods. That was my favorite. But if I was at home, I had a place I set up for this purpose, with pictures, symbols, etc, that made me comfortable.

The mind can be a reluctant submissive. You have to be the dominant. You really can control it if you dedicate the time.

How's THAT for a silly analogy?

Phil

I've long subscribed to the Superego as Dom, Id as sub discipline model.

I generally top myself from the bottom unfortunately.

 

[FurryFury]

It did help me a lot. You're right, though. You have to force yourself to set aside some quiet time.

Sorry to hear about the one that wlaked out on you while you were pregnant. Turns my stomach when I hear about those kind.

But when I said silly, I meant the brain/sub to be dominated. That was kind of a silly analogy. But it was fun, anyway.

*Hugggggers* back



Phil

Hi Phil!

Thank you for you caring.

We can look at this many ways. On the surface it might seem awful he left or that leaving a woman pregnant is much more common than many want to recognize. I believe that one shouldn't stick around if they can't enjoy being a parent however.

In my case his leaving only brought me good things.

I was a sick lil puppy to even be with him at all much less for ten years. I'm still kicking myself over it a bit.

His getting me to agree to have a baby at that time was a calculated move to keep my emotions stirred up. He asked for the pregnancy. He also asked for an abortion. Then he left citing "unhappiness."

While we were together I would do anything he indicated he wanted, up to destroying myself, which I also wanted and came far too close too.

After a while, I improved and it became harder for him to flip my mind or emotions. This, I believe, is why he left though it took me some time to figure that out.

So when he left me pregnant with a huge mortgage he thought all that would tie me up emotionally and financially with him so he could control me even while we weren't together.

What he didn't understand was that once he walked out I could reclaim me. I would no longer care about what he wanted and I am one tough cookie.

Now as a side benefit, I was making choices not just for me but for my unborn child. This was a HUGE thing because I don't care about myself that much but I did care about the child.

I made MUCH better choices. I was able to wriggle out of his control financially and emotionally very quickly and much to his sorrow. In fact, I didn't work for seven years after that because I didn't have to and not due to his money either.

Also, I picked my next lover with, not only, did he turn me on in mind, but could he be a good father. I believe that is one reason why I am so very lucky today to have him. I believe I would have made a much more destructive choice if my focus had been on just me.

The benefits continue to this day. I wake up thankful for this wonderful man and healthy kids every day. I compare the love, liking and support to the, emotional distance, hate, tearing down and chaos I used to have. I never forget how very lucky I am.

So don't be mad for me. Life is great for me now. Sometimes it takes some pain to make you appreciate the ease you find. I never dreamed live and love could be so healthy.

Let me just point out though that I don't believe this was my only possible path to happiness. If I could go back in time with the knowledge I have now I would absolutely change what I did and allowed. I'm not one of those people who says I would change a thing because it lead me here. I believe I could be even more fulfilled if I did go back with the self knowledge I have now but of course that isn't an option.

Fury

I've long subscribed to the Superego as Dom, Id as sub discipline model.

I generally top myself from the bottom unfortunately.

Hi Marquis!

Welcome.

*L*

Interesting perspective you lay out there.

You are so witty.

Fury

 

[mrJohnJones]

Wow

Hi Phil!

Thank you for you caring.

We can look at this many ways. On the surface it might seem awful he left or that leaving a woman pregnant is much more common than many want to recognize. I believe that one shouldn't stick around if they can't enjoy being a parent however.

In my case his leaving only brought me good things.

I was a sick lil puppy to even be with him at all much less for ten years. I'm still kicking myself over it a bit.

His getting me to agree to have a baby at that time was a calculated move to keep my emotions stirred up. He asked for the pregnancy. He also asked for an abortion. Then he left citing "unhappiness."

While we were together I would do anything he indicated he wanted, up to destroying myself, which I also wanted and came far too close too.

After a while, I improved and it became harder for him to flip my mind or emotions. This, I believe, is why he left though it took me some time to figure that out.

So when he left me pregnant with a huge mortgage he thought all that would tie me up emotionally and financially with him so he could control me even while we weren't together.

What he didn't understand was that once he walked out I could reclaim me. I would no longer care about what he wanted and I am one tough cookie.

Now as a side benefit, I was making choices not just for me but for my unborn child. This was a HUGE thing because I don't care about myself that much but I did care about the child.

I made MUCH better choices. I was able to wriggle out of his control financially and emotionally very quickly and much to his sorrow. In fact, I didn't work for seven years after that because I didn't have to and not due to his money either.

Also, I picked my next lover with, not only, did he turn me on in mind, but could he be a good father. I believe that is one reason why I am so very lucky today to have him. I believe I would have made a much more destructive choice if my focus had been on just me.

The benefits continue to this day. I wake up thankful for this wonderful man and healthy kids every day. I compare the love, liking and support to the, emotional distance, hate, tearing down and chaos I used to have. I never forget how very lucky I am.

So don't be mad for me. Life is great for me now. Sometimes it takes some pain to make you appreciate the ease you find. I never dreamed live and love could be so healthy.

Let me just point out though that I don't believe this was my only possible path to happiness. If I could go back in time with the knowledge I have now I would absolutely change what I did and allowed. I'm not one of those people who says I would change a thing because it lead me here. I believe I could be even more fulfilled if I did go back with the self knowledge I have now but of course that isn't an option.

Fury




Hi Marquis!

Welcome.

*L*

Interesting perspective you lay out there.

You are so witty.

Fury

I'm glad things worked out for you! It's a miracle for you, your child and your new lover. I've seen so many go the wrong way.

I wish I could post your message all over the web for those that have lost hope in light of your early story. It would give a lot of women the will to make it work.

Thanks for sharing! And congratulations!

Phil

 

[FurryFury]

I'm glad things worked out for you! It's a miracle for you, your child and your new lover. I've seen so many go the wrong way.

I wish I could post your message all over the web for those that have lost hope in light of your early story. It would give a lot of women the will to make it work.

Thanks for sharing! And congratulations!

Phil

Thanks Phil!

*smiles*

That's not really my early story though. There was a lot of earlier story. None of it matters really.

Knowing why you are the way you are may have some value but what you really need to know is that you and only you can change things really for yourself.

Too many of us go about from instinct and don't really take the time to know themselves and make conscious choices. I've certainly be guilty of that in the past and may still be from time to time.

Still as I said, life is good. I am mostly content.

Fury

 

[mrJohnJones]

Thanks Phil!

*smiles*

That's not really my early story though. There was a lot of earlier story. None of it matters really.

Knowing why you are the way you are may have some value but what you really need to know is that you and only you can change things really for yourself.

Too many of us go about from instinct and don't really take the time to know themselves and make conscious choices. I've certainly be guilty of that in the past and may still be from time to time.

Still as I said, life is good. I am mostly content.

Fury

Great!

Like I said. Wish you could get that out all over for others!

Phil

 

[FurryFury]

Great!

Like I said. Wish you could get that out all over for others!

Phil

Assuming it would help at least one person, I'd like that.

Thanks again.

*smiles*

Fury

 

[babiesmiles]

hugs furry from the heart . Thank you for sharing b.

 

[FurryFury]

hugs furry from the heart . Thank you for sharing b.

*hugs back atcha sweetie*

You are most welcome!

Fury

 

[FurryFury]

"Be aware of the space that allows everything to be. Listen to the sounds: don't judge them listen to the silence underneath the sounds. Touch something -anything-and feel and acknowledge it's being." ~ Eckhart Tolle

 

[FurryFury]

"Enlightenment means choosing to dwell in the state of presence rather than in time. It means saying yes to what is." ~ Eckert Tolle.

This is likely the last one I will post from The Power Of Now Calendar by Eckert Tolle. I have a new calendar for a New Year. It is called The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz, again there is a book by him as well. This beautiful and inspirational calendar exposes a "Toltec way of life in which there are no leaders and no followers. You have to have your own truth and live your own truth. A Toltec becomes wise, becomes wild, and becomes free again." I think it will make for an interesting year of meditations.

Fury

 

[FurryFury]

"You were born with the right to be happy. You were born with the right to love, to enjoy and to share you love. You are alive so take your life and enjoy it". ~ Don Miguel Ruiz from The Four Agreements, a calendar for wisdom and personal freedom.

Interesting thoughts here, personally I don't believe in being born with rights, yet I understand the intent behind the above and appreciate what it is trying to say.

I believe when you feel you have rights though, this often translates into focusing on what you think you have a right to. Not in a positive, I will now change my life for the better way but in a negative why doesn't life, this person or that present this thing that I want and have a right to, on a silver platter for me. Since it doesn't or they don't I have been fucked over and so on. Ya know?

Nothing should take away from you finding the path to what you want or accepting what you have as enough either way. To me we are all our own greatest magicians or oppressors.

Fury

 

[FurryFury]

You are life passing through your body, passing through your mind, passing through your soul. You are that force that moves the wind and breathes through your body. The whole universe is a living being that is moved by that force, and that is what you are, you are life. ~ Don Miquel Ruiz The Four Agreements.

 

[FurryFury]

Whenever you notice that some form of negativity has arisen within you, look on it not as a failure, but as a helpful signal that is telling you: "Wake up. Get out of your mind. Be present." ~ Eckhart Tolle

 

[FurryFury]

Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed. ~ Storm Jameson

 

[Evil_Geoff]

Whenever you notice that some form of negativity has arisen within you, look on it not as a failure, but as a helpful signal that is telling you: "Wake up. Get out of your mind. Be present." ~ Eckhart Tolle

I am frequently accused of being out of my mind!


GO PANTHERS!

 

[FurryFury]

I am frequently accused of being out of my mind!


GO PANTHERS!

LMAO!

Oh really?

Fury

 

[mrJohnJones]

LMAO!

Oh really?

Fury

{{{{fury}}}}

*politely hands fury her ass back*

You should really be careful how hard you laugh....

*hugggs*



mJJ