Do women love big cocks more?

In my experience , not as much as many here , from a number of foursomes both of the wives were over the moon with the change in size . My wife gushed over his thicker but shorter one and his wife exploded on my longer one with average girth .

The experience of " a different one " is a big part of it as well as the mind fuck .
 
I'm slightly larger than normal, but far from 10" and anything considered huge. In my experience there are pros and cons of being even slightly larger. For the pros, I reach places that others don't, which clearly feels good for the woman. Also, I feel like women have structures deep inside that are extra pleasurable for me, but that I wouldn't get to if I were much shorter. For the cons, I have to reach them gently. I can't fuck with abandon, going fast and hard, because I almost always bottom out, and slam into their cervix, which is painful for the woman and the end of the fun. I've talked to average sized guys and they say they rarely bottom out.

I am surprised that the women here haven't listed not being able to fuck fast and hard as a drawback of larger cocks. Or is there something I'm missing?

I have no problem fucking a large cock fast and hard.

The perception we have of the cervix being directly at the end of a fixed vaginal canal is actually incorrect. The vaginal canal itself is very flexible and expands/lengthens when a woman is aroused. Meanwhile the cervix is sort of along its length and will move modestly so that a man's penis goes past it during sex.

It is still possible to "bottom out" and some women may find that uncomfortable. But I also find that my general level of arousal leads to reduced sensitivity to discomfort (related to the release of brain chemicals I suppose). There is also a degree of learned relaxation of those muscles to accommodate more. Think of it like trying to jamb a broom handle into a clenched fist. That will hurt but not if you unclench the fist - that is fairly obvious and the muscles in your hand are entirely voluntary. But sometimes the muscles in our more private parts are somewhat involuntary so we need to train ourselves to relax them. And of course the man needs to be tuned in to our bodies and makes sure to take his time to ensure we are fully aroused, relaxed and receptive.

Obviously I can't speak for other women. For many their anatomy is just different than mine (an avowed size queen). But some are also inclined to recoil at the first sign of discomfort so they never really give it a chance. It is the same with anal sex or deep throat. I can tell you for certain that fucking a big cock or doing anal or deep-throat with an average cock is at least moderately uncomfortable for virtually everyone at first. But if you go farther to explore and adapt it can all be very pleasurable.

We often fall into the trap of thinking everything sex related should flow organically and easily, otherwise something is wrong. Imagine if you tried to ride a bike, skinned your knee then gave up on the basis that bike = pain and steadfastly refused to consider that you are quite capable of riding a bike and enjoying with a bit more effort.

If a guy is truly huge I can alter how deep he goes by changing my position (i.e. lie prone and have him mount me from behind) or simply have him stop short of full penetration. If he isn't quite going "balls deep" that means we forego that sensation of having his pelvis "slam" into me, but much as I like that sound and visual it isn't really part of our physical stimulation.

All that said if a guy is really big we have to temper the pace a bit, but I am talking more like 12" there.
 
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I believe that most (not all) women say they like a big cock simply to satisfy his fragile ego and let him think he is Superman.

The saying. “ it’s not how big you make it, it’s HOW you make it big” is in the minds of most women.

Just my opinion. Not meant to insult anyone.
Hahahaha! Love that 😃
 
So, where does “big” start on the measuring ruler for a woman? Is it girth, length, or both?

My idea is over 6” in length and about the girth of a 8oz Red Bull can is starting to get thick.

Then there’s the mythical “omg you’re too long/big/thick area of measure.

Just curious.
 
So, where does “big” start on the measuring ruler for a woman? Is it girth, length, or both?

My idea is over 6” in length and about the girth of a 8oz Red Bull can is starting to get thick.

Then there’s the mythical “omg you’re too long/big/thick area of measure.

Just curious.
I'm guessing there are as many answers to your question as there are women . Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong though 😁
 
I‘m really enjoying reading this discussion, and for the most part agree with what has been said. One thing that has been true for me as a male is that I find men (including myself) just don’t discuss details about really anything to do with sex with other men (friends or otherwise) and that definitely includes penis size. This coupled with the general ridiculousness of some of the stories, random bragging and what seems to be a general ignorance on basic measurement means for most men with average equipment there is no real way to know how they stack up. There is of course porn but that’s hardly a representative sample and wouldn’t matter except for the insecurity that it fosters. For me my only reliable source has been from women i‘ve been intimate with and as some of the women in this discussion have stated they have always been kind and respectful and I would hope they would say the same of me. As I’ve mostly been curious and not that sensitive I’ve been happy with being average and as a lot of others have mentioned the variation of different bodies and minds is what makes sex so much fun. One thing that did change for me was when I had my first BDSM session with a professional dominatrix who was very lovely and very matter of factly told me that I was quite thick and proceeded to prove it by fucking my cock repeatedly being particularly happy when I could take her largest sound. She also stated I was of average length. I’d be lying if I said it didn’t give my ego a little boost, and it did also put a new light on some of the interactions I had with women in the past. All in all average seems pretty good.
 
In addition to the comments about each woman's preferences being unique to her it is also worth noting the variety in what each individual woman wants. A large cock is a unique experience that I enjoy, but it is just one of many. And it is not the case that all experiences would be enhanced by a bigger dick.

It is an interesting perspective men have on perceived power and strength. It seems very prevalent to expect a man to feel insecure if a woman said she desired a bigger cock, but much less prevalent to feel insecure if said she preferred a more modest sized cock. Big cock guys can be insecure about it but seemingly not as much as small cock guys. That suggests it is as much about personal perception among men as it is about female pleasure.
 
I was always curious about this myself and asked my wife about it since she has covered a wide spectrum of cock size. She dated a "realy small" guy for quite a while and has experienced unusually large cocks. When asked her reply was "I never had a cock I didn't like."
 
For me, as far as just the physical feeling goes, the size that matters the most is thickness. My "spot" doesn't require 10" to hit but the stretching that a thick cock can send me to the moon. Literally ... I've walked on it several times lol.
Call me vain, but as a guy with average length and pretty big girth, I can't read stuff like this enough. 😁😆

So, where does “big” start on the measuring ruler for a woman? Is it girth, length, or both?

My idea is over 6” in length and about the girth of a 8oz Red Bull can is starting to get thick.

Then there’s the mythical “omg you’re too long/big/thick area of measure.

Just curious.

An 8 oz Red Bull can is WELL above average. Average girth is generally said to be in the 4.6"-4.8" range. A Red Bull can is 6.5". That's a BIG difference, and 6.5" is getting into VERY thick territory. I'm 6.1", and according to must studies that still puts me in the 99th percentile. So, somewhere in the 5.x range is probably where you're in the "starting to get thick" range.

I've shared it before, but this has a great breakdown and some good visuals. Some of the visuals are a little skewed because the model is on the petite side, but still useful.

https://unravelingsize.wordpress.com/
 
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Keep in mind that most people in most contexts do not aspire to be average or have a partner who is average. It reassuring to know that one is average or better. It helps to have perspective on just what average or large or small really is (without distortions of porn or pop culture). But none of that changes whether a woman wants a cock longer or thicker than the statistical average.
 
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Keep in mind that most people in most contexts do not aspire to be average or have a partner who is average. It reassuring to know that one is average or better. It helps to have prospective on just what average or large or small really is (without distortions of porn or pop culture). But none of that changes whether a woman wants a cock longer or thicker than the statistical average.
Well put.

People don't strive to be average, and people don't usually go looking for average either. Nothing wrong with that.

And it really is an interesting deep dive to do, or at least it was to me, to get perspective on what average actually is in this context. Average was actually smaller overall than I expected, which was interesting. I just love learning as much as I can about things, and this wasn't any different.
 
Well put.

People don't strive to be average, and people don't usually go looking for average either. Nothing wrong with that.

And it really is an interesting deep dive to do, or at least it was to me, to get perspective on what average actually is in this context. Average was actually smaller overall than I expected, which was interesting. I just love learning as much as I can about things, and this wasn't any different.

Another thing that is important with statistics is to understand your sample.

The data cited on this topic is typically worldwide averages. However, there are significant regional variances. Not surprisingly, the highly populous region of south east Asia has the smallest averages. There are a few sub-regions in Africa and the slavic countries where the average is as high as 7". And the North American average is about 1/2" higher than the worldwide average.

Meanwhile within any of these averages is a full cross section of society - young/old, fat/thin, athlete/nerd, etc. We often overlook just how many people in our society we overlook when it comes to sexual matters. That little 65 year old man who does your taxes and who you may never think of in a sexual context is part of the average. Meanwhile attractive women are drawing their dates from the top 10-25% of the male population.

Whatever "the top 10-25%" means isn't necessarily co-relate perfectly to cock size, but for this purpose assume there is a reasonable correlation. The actual North American data indicates that about 3% of men have a cock 8" or larger. That is about the same proportion of men who are 6'3" or taller - rare but not exactly a unicorn. So 1 in 33 men has a cock 8" or longer. If an attractive woman is drawing from the top 10% of men then almost 1 in 3 will be 8" or longer. If she is drawing from the top 25% of men then almost 1 in 8 will be 8" or longer. If you talk to attractive women who date actively and put average importance on physical characteristics their feedback will be roughly consistent with this.

It is absolutely true that porn distorts our expectations of cock size. But, respectfully, guys anxious to assuage their own insecurities also seek to present an inaccurate picture.

On one level my attitude is who cares. Let people believe what they want to believe if that is what makes them feel better. But the unfortunate reality is that male insecurity is highly correlated to hostility towards women. Ironically, twisting the data to assuage male insecurities actually exacerbates this problem. It encourages men to find comfort by distorting the truth, which helps those who want to do so to justify their hostility towards any woman who doesn't buy into the male narrative or simply expresses a preference that doesn't align with it.
 
Another thing that is important with statistics is to understand your sample.

The data cited on this topic is typically worldwide averages. However, there are significant regional variances. Not surprisingly, the highly populous region of south east Asia has the smallest averages. There are a few sub-regions in Africa and the slavic countries where the average is as high as 7". And the North American average is about 1/2" higher than the worldwide average.

Meanwhile within any of these averages is a full cross section of society - young/old, fat/thin, athlete/nerd, etc. We often overlook just how many people in our society we overlook when it comes to sexual matters. That little 65 year old man who does your taxes and who you may never think of in a sexual context is part of the average. Meanwhile attractive women are drawing their dates from the top 10-25% of the male population.

Whatever "the top 10-25%" means isn't necessarily co-relate perfectly to cock size, but for this purpose assume there is a reasonable correlation. The actual North American data indicates that about 3% of men have a cock 8" or larger. That is about the same proportion of men who are 6'3" or taller - rare but not exactly a unicorn. So 1 in 33 men has a cock 8" or longer. If an attractive woman is drawing from the top 10% of men then almost 1 in 3 will be 8" or longer. If she is drawing from the top 25% of men then almost 1 in 8 will be 8" or longer. If you talk to attractive women who date actively and put average importance on physical characteristics their feedback will be roughly consistent with this.

It is absolutely true that porn distorts our expectations of cock size. But, respectfully, guys anxious to assuage their own insecurities also seek to present an inaccurate picture.

On one level my attitude is who cares. Let people believe what they want to believe if that is what makes them feel better. But the unfortunate reality is that male insecurity is highly correlated to hostility towards women. Ironically, twisting the data to assuage male insecurities actually exacerbates this problem. It encourages men to find comfort by distorting the truth, which helps those who want to do so to justify their hostility towards any woman who doesn't buy into the male narrative or simply expresses a preference that doesn't align with it.

It is interesting to me the way guys will sometimes get our backs up about women criticizing men's cock size as if there is an epidemic of women putting men down. I have rarely ever seen or heard of this happening. To the extent it does, it is far less prevalent than men or society criticizing female bodies. In fact, women seem to go to great lengths to avoid saying anything negative even when asked.

I really don't care for the whole woke movement. But this does seem to be one of those areas where male privilege has allowed us to confuse not being willing to perpetuate a false narrative with being openly critical. I do hear women insisting on being honest with themselves and others, but I rarely hear them openly criticizing a man who didn't ask or provoke them.
 
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In college, I had a friend who once could not stifle a laugh when she saw a guy's cock. It wasn't his size but the shape--she said it had a kind of zig-zag curve. She said it was really nervous laugh, but he took it as belittlement. He set out to ruin her, telling everyone she was an actual whore, accusing her of cheating in her classes, even filing a bogus mechanic's lean on her car. So yeah, women are careful about what we say to a man. Some of it is politeness, and some of it is fear, because most of us know people with similar stories, if we've not experienced it ourselves.
 
My second wife and several lovers have said that a large cock was like a decadent dessert. Delicious on occasion, but would not want a full time diet of it
 
In college, I had a friend who once could not stifle a laugh when she saw a guy's cock. It wasn't his size but the shape--she said it had a kind of zig-zag curve. She said it was really nervous laugh, but he took it as belittlement. He set out to ruin her, telling everyone she was an actual whore, accusing her of cheating in her classes, even filing a bogus mechanic's lean on her car. So yeah, women are careful about what we say to a man. Some of it is politeness, and some of it is fear, because most of us know people with similar stories, if we've not experienced it ourselves.
Which is absolutely terrible.

I really don't get why guys get so caught up on it to the pointbthey do shit like that. And I say that as a guy who was under the impression I was completely average in all facets for 35 years. Sure, packing something large down there can be a great confidence boost and all. Hell, it's given me a little boost. But I wasn't mopeing around or dwelling on it the first 35 years of my life. There's alot more to being a man than the size of your dick, and a hell of a lot more to being a good lover too. 🤷‍♂️
 
I could never bring my ex gf to orgasm during intercouse no matter how I tried. When she was out of town at a conference, she met a guy at a club and ended up in bed with him. I knew something had happened and it took several weeks for her to admit it. As she realized I wasn’t angry, that it actually aroused me even though it made me jealous, she finally told me the details. I’m slightly larger than average but he was about 8 inches and thick. Needless to say, he was able to bring her to orgasm twice that night and again the next day. She told me he went very very slowly. I’ve tried to replicate his technique but still not able to get the results he achieved.
 
In college, I had a friend who once could not stifle a laugh when she saw a guy's cock. It wasn't his size but the shape--she said it had a kind of zig-zag curve. She said it was really nervous laugh, but he took it as belittlement. He set out to ruin her, telling everyone she was an actual whore, accusing her of cheating in her classes, even filing a bogus mechanic's lean on her car. So yeah, women are careful about what we say to a man. Some of it is politeness, and some of it is fear, because most of us know people with similar stories, if we've not experienced it ourselves.
that’s awful, I shouldn’t probably be surprised that a guy would do that but the level of ferocity still astounds me. I’m also not sure if it’s getting worse or it’s just becomg more visible.
 
that’s awful, I shouldn’t probably be surprised that a guy would do that but the level of ferocity still astounds me. I’m also not sure if it’s getting worse or it’s just becomg more visible.
I feel as though guys have always had a certain sense of entitlement as it relates to our status in a male dominated world. Guys who have gotten away with a lot of bad behaviour adopt the role of victim remarkably easily when they feel slighted and suddenly feel justified in being dickheads. Society is working to make it more visible so I am sure that is part of it. But it does seem like we see certain behaviour where it is hard to believe anyone ever thought it was acceptable.
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My second wife and several lovers have said that a large cock was like a decadent dessert. Delicious on occasion, but would not want a full time diet of it

I would probably have it a little more often than I would have a decadent dessert, but the general premise is quite right. I don't expect it all the time and actually wouldn't want it all the time. But there is no sense pretending it doesn't have its own unique appeal.
 
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