Falling in love and then meeting?

Miss T, Love that new word!! Can relate to the need to differentiate between common interests, amusing moments, and that something indescernable to narrow down the ones worth meeting...and not always an easy choice. I found I had quite a few willing to fly me all over the globe to meet, but circumstance made it easier for them to come to me, and so some were close, others were like Master, from far, far, away places, and all corners of the globe. I am pleased I was able to confidently, and over time, not allow myself to be pressured into meeting those I detected as 'not suitable' otherwise I would still be wading through the list. LOL.

I met some wonderful men and learnt a lot, but in all except Master, I had minor doubts before meeting which proved true. With him I felt not only a deep emotional bond, and maybe this is related to more than we understand in the here and now, who knows, but I felt a deep sense of security, someone I could trust with my life. It is not something you come across everyday, and some never seem to find it...for us it was there, and just grows and grows when we both think it can not go deeper.

Would have to say that first meeting at the airport was one of the most memorable of my life. The world seemed to fade away for us, and I knew that was not remotely like anything I had experienced then or later with other prospectives I met in a similar way, and the same terminal. I do not think it is for everyone, and it is easy to get carried away with dreams and hopes, but that is also where I think it helps to have clarity about your needs and purpose. Some felt I approached it in a busines like manner, I prefer to think of it as a mission for happiness and fulfilment.

I remember seeing a programme on people (vanilla) who met online and married. Many of them were like me in their approach. They made a decision, and approached it like any other project in life....set guidelines, definite ideas of needs, determination that whether it was No 5 or No 1005 meeting, they would settle for nothing les than they deserved to be happy. It seems it is a formula that can work, but does need clear self set boundaries in mind and heart, while also being open to accepting the odd, unexpected surprise you didn't count on liking, and perhaps would not in any one but the one you give your heart and soul to.

As an afterthought, perhaps some of our success came from the fact we did not play Master/slave online, there were no daily punishments and online sessions, self disciplining in his absence, etc., nor with any of the others I communicated with before him...it was about getting to know each other as people first, our defined views of how we wanted a BDSM 24/7 relationship to be and evolve, our likes and dislikes, expectations, limits etc., but no playing at the imagined reality...that was reserved for one on one contact. Even after our marriage, and the 2 short periods of time we had to be seperated, we did not play out these aspects of the relationship while apart. I wore his collar, and I kept him informed of all progress in our being together from my end, but no disciplining and asking me to obey certain commands just so he could feel he was acting as Master. He knew he was that already and my submission was real. Small things in dress etc., which are in our rules were already part of my daily life before meeting so that was not an issue of checking if I was obeying. So maybe this minimised the risk of being wound up in the moment and blinded to who we both were in reality 24/7.

Catalina :D
 
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I think you have said a mouthful in your last paragraph, Catalina.

For a relationship to go to real time, there may be times when long distance "cyber D/s" is more detrimental than beneficial to the growth of the relationship.

I have said it before having heard it here first, D/s relationships are relationships first. I believe two people do need time to grow together, know one another and find that they will be able to stand one antoher when they are too old and decrepit to scene! ;)

:)
 
MissTaken said:
I think you have said a mouthful in your last paragraph, Catalina.

For a relationship to go to real time, there may be times when long distance "cyber D/s" is more detrimental than beneficial to the growth of the relationship.

I have said it before having heard it here first, D/s relationships are relationships first. I believe two people do need time to grow together, know one another and find that they will be able to stand one antoher when they are too old and decrepit to scene! ;)

:)

Bingo.
 
Desdemona said:
We were both looking for a play partner only and just wanted to be friends. Obviously, that changed, much to our delight.

LOL. This could have been a quote from me or Him. He wasn't looking for a sub and I wasn't looking for a Dom. As time went on, it became very obvious to both of us that this was something we wanted to take past the "play partner" stage. However, my complete submission to Him was still a different kind of emotional connection than love. Love came later, after I had been His for some time.

It's like building a house. I know it doesn't sound very romantic, but you can't put the roof on, if you haven't built the floor and have no walls.

~anelize
 
AnelizeDarkEyes said:
LOL. This could have been a quote from me or Him. He wasn't looking for a sub and I wasn't looking for a Dom. As time went on, it became very obvious to both of us that this was something we wanted to take past the "play partner" stage. However, my complete submission to Him was still a different kind of emotional connection than love. Love came later, after I had been His for some time.

It's like building a house. I know it doesn't sound very romantic, but you can't put the roof on, if you haven't built the floor and have no walls.

~anelize

Its a different kind of romance, I think. One that has substance and should stand the test of time. It is based on reality and holds up under the challenges of everyday life. Loving each other with eyes wide open to faults and idiosyncracies is a good basis for "magic".
 
Desdemona said:
Its a different kind of romance, I think. One that has substance and should stand the test of time. It is based on reality and holds up under the challenges of everyday life. Loving each other with eyes wide open to faults and idiosyncracies is a good basis for "magic".

And as Catalina and Z have pointed out, this "eyes wide open thing" can begin over the phone and online?

:)

Yes, we do think an awful lot alike, Des.:rose:
 
If you are astute and careful, yes, I think the eyes wide open thing can happen online and over the phone. However, for me, it had to be verified in real life.
 
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Desdemona said:
If you are astute and careful, yes, I think the eyes wide open thing can happen online and over the phone. However, for me, it had to be verified in real life.

Bingo!

I think that we can establish feelings without meeting, but yes, they need to test the time of dirty socks, inopportune flatulance, morning breath and table manners!

;)

Among other more serious things...

I think a rational approach to distance affection is , " if what is happening now is real stands the litmus tests we have talked about, I just may well be hooked!"

:rose: :D
 
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MissTaken said:
Bingo!

I think that we can establish feelings without meeting, but yes, they need to test the time of dirty socks, inopportune flatulance, morning breath and table manners!

;)

Among other more serious things...

I think a rational approach to distance affection is , " if what is happening now is real stands the litmus tests we have talked about, I just may well be hooked!"

:rose: :D

I think for most people, the difficulty lies in remaining rational once they begin to feel the affection.:rose:
 
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Desdemona said:
I think for most people, the difficulty lies in remaining rational once they begin to feel the affection.:rose:

That may well be true.

:)

True for on line, cyber, LDR and real time relationships, I believe.

I think you have to be comfortable in your own skin, comfortable being alone before including another in your life.
 
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MissTaken said:
I think you have to be comfortable in your own skin, comfortable being alone before including another in your life.

Yes, I agree. I think many make the mistake of thinking another can bring them the happiness that seems at that point in their life to be eluding them, rescue them from themselves so to speak. Often the overwhelming burden that presents for the partner, coupled with slowly emerging baggage which has caused the unhappiness or dissatisfaction, showing itself perhaps for the first time in the unhappy one's life, can often be the straw that breaks the camel's back in the relationship. To find happiness and stability, one needs to be able to offer it from the inside.

Catalina
 
Yes, catalina...

I find it sometimes, amazing, sometimes sad what happens when people take that walk for all the wrong reasons.

Love thy self, first.

(Your post even made me think of the Dom Violence vicitms I have worked with.)

:rose:
 
MissTaken said:
Yes, catalina...

I find it sometimes, amazing, sometimes sad what happens when people take that walk for all the wrong reasons.

Love thy self, first.

(Your post even made me think of the Dom Violence vicitms I have worked with.)

:rose:

Yes, my experience with survivors of DV is many think love is a way out of their situation, or as soon as they leave, fall straight into the arms of the first sympathetic male they meet, more often than not another perpetrator in a different skin. Is not difficult to understand why they go for these options, but is so much better to try other options which in the long term are safer and more empowering for their future choices in life. Through it all though, I can never help but admire the strength of these women, and their tenacity and creative spirits.

C
 
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I keep reading about bad online experiences which turned people off from using the internet. Some people have two or three of them! I can't tell you how many bad relationships I've had with people I've met in person. Of course there are bad experiences to be had from internet love, but ther are good ones too. In offline life only a small percentage of people you met will work. Assuming the same percentage for online love means you are going to need to shift through alot. No one seems to be hesistating to make online friends, what if you started talking with someone here more and starting going down that road? Personally for happiness I'd take that chance. How many people are there out there that can really make you happy? I, for one, am not willing to close any doors. I've only had a few minor online experiences, none of which were good, but if a situation presented itself again I'd be willing try. Odds are on that it will end poorly, but I'm willing to take that risk. I won't pull out the line that you have to risk hurt to feel love, but I will say your chance of finding someone is so slim you should look under every rock.

So sayth the Croctden
 
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Croctden said:
I won't pull out the line that you have to risk hurt to feel love, but I will say your chance of finding someone is so slim you should look under every rock.

So sayth the Croctden

LOL. I used to always be amused when people would critcise me for looking far and wide for my one, remarking that I must be hard to please if I couldn't find someone in the same city. Maybe I was hard to please, but I prefer to think it was more I wanted the 'right' one, not just anyone, so if that meant changing hemispheres and going to the other side of the planet as I have, so be it. :D

Catalina
 
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MissTaken said:
That may well be true.

:)

True for on line, cyber, LDR and real time relationships, I believe.

I think you have to be comfortable in your own skin, comfortable being alone before including another in your life.

bingo

eloquence again-;)
 
Well, my experience is mixed. My lover and I (who I am in love with) met via ICQ. But it wasn't until we met in person that we realised that there was a "zing factor".

So there are people I meet on the 'net who I can love, or lust after... but "in love" for me requires in-person time.
 
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Croctden said:
I keep reading about bad online experiences which turned people off from using the internet. Some people have two or three of them! I can't tell you how many bad relationships I've had with people I've met in person. Of course there are bad experiences to be had from internet love, but ther are good ones too. In offline life only a small percentage of people you met will work. Assuming the same percentage for online love means you are going to need to shift through alot. No one seems to be hesistating to make online friends, what if you started talking with someone here more and starting going down that road? Personally for happiness I'd take that chance. How many people are there out there that can really make you happy? I, for one, am not willing to close any doors. I've only had a few minor online experiences, none of which were good, but if a situation presented itself again I'd be willing try. Odds are on that it will end poorly, but I'm willing to take that risk. I won't pull out the line that you have to risk hurt to feel love, but I will say your chance of finding someone is so slim you should look under every rock.

So sayth the Croctden

You sayeth good things Croctden.

Big risks reap big rewards.
Small risks reap small rewards.
No risk reap no rewards.
 
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Ebonyfire said:
Big risks reap big rewards.
Small risks reap small rewards.
No risk reap no rewards.

So sayeth the Eb.

*grin*

Love it.

~anelize
 
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Ebonyfire said:
You sayeth good things Croctden.

Big risks reap big rewards.
Small risks reap small rewards.
No risk reap no rewards.

So true.

One of the risks being...

when you think you are ready for love and in fact, aren't.

Sort of like, "Be careful what you wish for?"

;)
 
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MissTaken said:
So true.

One of the risks being...

when you think you are ready for love and in fact, aren't.

Sort of like, "Be careful what you wish for?"

;)

Yep. I am a firm believer in the strength of wishes that really are needs in disguise. I think we draw to us what is needed.

It is like that Rolling Stones song:

"You don't always get what you want, but you get what you need."
 
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Ebonyfire said:
Yep. I am a firm believer in the strength of wishes that really are needs in disguise. I think we draw to us what is needed.

It is like that Rolling Stones song:

"You don't always get what you want, but you get what you need."

That's a good thing.
 
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Desdemona said:
That's a good thing.

Well, no one said when you get it... it usually takes a hell of a lot of patience. And I think that's something we all suck at.
 
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FungiUg said:
Well, no one said when you get it... it usually takes a hell of a lot of patience. And I think that's something we all suck at.

You just said a mouthful! However, good things are worth the wait.
 
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FungiUg said:
Well, no one said when you get it... it usually takes a hell of a lot of patience. And I think that's something we all suck at.

True, true. Sometimes we can't see for looking. My Mom used to say that to Me. I think she meant that we are looking so hard or trying so hard to make things happen, we just don't let events happen at their own pace.
 
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