For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[ll74]

Like I said, they will most likely be increasing their support of Iran and North Korea, which basically makes more trouble for the US in the Middle East. Russia's strategy in Ukraine is a long game, where they want NATO to get rid of Zelensky in the end when the weapons and funds are turned off.

Becky is. A foreign policy pro and not at all sucking Putin cock

 

[RandyRebecca]

Becky is. A foreign policy pro and not at all sucking Putin cock

You still want to send more US federal tax dollars to that financial black hole in Ukraine? FFS.

 

[ll74]

You still want to send more US federal tax dollars to that financial black hole in Ukraine? FFS.

I want to assist our allies in their defense of invasion.

Russia can end this at any time and it won't affect their absence of war objectives.

 

[RandyRebecca]

I want to assist our allies in their defense of invasion.

"Our allies" meaning the allies of American billionaires, who rule over the American people through class-based violence.

Russia can end this at any time and it won't affect their absence of war objectives.

Russia is going to wait it out, behind the land that they currently have, and are slowly advancing. Denying reality won't change this.

 

[ll74]

"Our allies" meaning the allies of American billionaires, who rule over the American people through class-based violence.

Ukraine is an ally.

Russia is going to wait it out, behind the land that they currently have, and are slowly advancing. Denying reality won't change this.

Because they want to kill a shitload of Ukranians and Russians for no reason, correct.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Ukraine is an ally.

You really think that the Biden administration fighting Russia to the last drop of Ukrainian blood is them seeing Ukraine as allies?

 

[ll74]

You really think that the Biden administration fighting Russia to the last drop of Ukrainian blood is them seeing Ukraine as allies?

Ukraine is an ally.

That's not a thought....they are.

I don't give a fuck about Putin.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Ukraine is an ally.

An ally in what?

That's not a thought....they are.

In what? You say it like brainwashing.

I don't give a fuck about Putin.

Nor do I.

 

[ll74]

An ally in what?

An ally - https://ua.usembassy.gov/our-relati... diplomatic,with a flourishing market economy.

Being ignorant of our relationships with other country is no excuse for stupidity

In what? You say it like brainwashing.

I say it because it's a fact

 

[ChloeTzang]

You still want to send more US federal tax dollars to that financial black hole in Ukraine? FFS.

Nope. I want to send M1A1's, Bradleys, Strykers, Patriots, Himars, Artillery and ammo. Out of our stockpiles where they are reaching end of life and will cost is more to dispose of than sending them to Ukraine. Win win. We save money on end of life hardware and ammo. Ukraine fucks over the Russians. We buy new stuff.

And we thank Ukraine for showing us both the changing face of war and that our models are outdated and need correcting.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Russia is going to wait it out, behind the land that they currently have, and are slowly advancing. Denying reality won't change this.

LOL. Russia is bleeding out. Their gains are measure in a field at a time, for hundreds, if not thousands of dead Russians. Their replacements are NOT keeping up with their losses. Many Russian units are now down to 75% of their strength at best and are unable to be built back up. The standard Russian tank is now the T62. They are running out of BMP's. Oil exports are down 17%. Their aircraft are being whittled away. The Crimea is close to being isolated and a little longer and a hundred thousand Russian troops in Kherson are going to be running short of drinking water....you don't last too long without water in a Ukrainian summer.

Russia now cannot win. Time is NOT on Russia's side.

Zelensky, Ukraine, and Europe, are now well aware they cannot rely on the US and the Ukrainian defence industrial complex is growing exponentially. European countries such as Denmark are now funding orders from Ukrainian companies to allow them to increase their production even further. Ukrainian ammo production is gearing up fast. As well as Ukrainian IFV's, Rheinmetall will soon be rolling Fuchs and Lynxes off the production line inside Ukraine. Netherlands, Sweden and a couple of other countries are building them CV90's. Mirage 2000's are on the way....Ukraine has doubled the range of their Neptune cruise missiles and are mass producing thousands of drones. Shortly, we will see thousand drone raids on Russian targets, which will be annihilated.

Nope, Russian CANNOT wait this one out. Unless they win, they are fucked, and they cannot win.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Think about it like this. Russia has lost 70,000 troops in the last 60 days. Total US losses in the Vietnam war were approx 58000 over 8 years

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...hobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1720853604-1

 

[RandyRebecca]

Nope. I want to send M1A1's, Bradleys, Strykers, Patriots, Himars, Artillery and ammo.

None of those weapons have done Ukraine much good so far.

Out of our stockpiles where they are reaching end of life and will cost is more to dispose of than sending them to Ukraine. Win win. We save money on end of life hardware and ammo. Ukraine fucks over the Russians. We buy new stuff.

And we thank Ukraine for showing us both the changing face of war and that our models are outdated and need correcting.

The Russians occupy nearly all the Black Sea coast land, and Ukraine aren't getting that land back. The Russians are playing the long game, and they have more weapons reserves and military reserve personnel compared to Ukraine. NATO are just refusing to face reality.

LOL. Russia is bleeding out. Their gains are measure in a field at a time, for hundreds, if not thousands of dead Russians. Their replacements are NOT keeping up with their losses.

Yes, they are. Russia have something like 700,000 troops in Ukraine, and they are not short of volunteers, unlike Ukraine.

Russia now cannot win. Time is NOT on Russia's side.

Time is on Russia's side, because they occupy the Black Sea coast land, have put up defenses, and are slowly advancing. If they go west of the Dnieper river, then they landlock Ukraine completely. Compared to the start of the war, Ukraine has lost much more land, especially in a strategic sense, i.e. Black Sea coast with the grain supplies, and the Donbass with its industries. What does Ukraine have? Terrible debts, for which ordinary Ukrainians will pay the financial price. Also, the people willing to be conscripted in Ukraine signed up long ago.

 

[Buffalogurl]

Laughable. Just what do you think the US will do if nukes start flying? Putin isn't suicidal. MAD works as long as assholes like yourself don't succeed in convincing people nukes can be used in a limited manner. It's my understanding that every nuclear war game, every one, ends up in full scale nuclear war. Limited nuclear war is a fairy tale. Russia isn't going to use nukes. It would be the end of them. And us. MAD works.

So why has the US government built the b16 tactical nuclear bomb that is designed to be fitted on the f16? You know like the ones that are staged to attack Russia from nato? Oh and before I forget one of the ukie brainiacs, Thursday or Friday drove his/her/they/them's f16 into the ground in Poland......ending in a fucking fire ball....... yupper the current crime families in power are not going to allow rookie ukies to drive F16s into combat.....now they have one less f16

 

[Buffalogurl]

Russia is rattling sabers, nothing more.

No he is not just Saber rattling..... and no it won't take nukes to destroy this nation all it will take is 3 days without electricity and this country will destroy itself.....think high altitude e.m.p. bomb detonated in orbit.....or half a dozen kinzal hypersonic Missiles launched from a submarine off the coast of Charleston north Carolina targeting half a dozen power stations.....

 

[Buffalogurl]

None of those weapons have done Ukraine much good so far.


The Russians occupy nearly all the Black Sea coast land, and Ukraine aren't getting that land back. The Russians are playing the long game, and they have more weapons reserves and military reserve personnel compared to Ukraine. NATO are just refusing to face reality.


Yes, they are. Russia have something like 700,000 troops in Ukraine, and they are not short of volunteers, unlike Ukraine.


Time is on Russia's side, because they occupy the Black Sea coast land, have put up defenses, and are slowly advancing. If they go west of the Dnieper river, then they landlock Ukraine completely. Compared to the start of the war, Ukraine has lost much more land, especially in a strategic sense, i.e. Black Sea coast with the grain supplies, and the Donbass with its industries. What does Ukraine have? Terrible debts, for which ordinary Ukrainians will pay the financial price. Also, the people willing to be conscripted in Ukraine signed up long ago.

And Russia now controls the land mass where the Ukrainians generated 90% of their gdp....the electrical grid is all but destroyed and fresh water is a thing of the past.... I firmly believe the US government will reinstate the draft and invade Russia via Ukraine..... all the shit is in play.... and if anyone doesn't believe me go read the patriot act......

 

[ChloeTzang]

Returning to our scheduled programming

 

[Sean Renaud]

You might want to indicate who or what you're referring to.

Oh gods you can scroll up. You have argued the average Ukrainian dead are nearly twice as old as the average age of other militaries. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you chose your words intentionally that many of the Ukrainians dying aren't technically military. As int he paperwork isn't in. You further stated the youth fled the country. A women and children sort of thing. I didn't see any reason to doubt you and you provided links.

The Ukranians have chosen to fight and so far its going really better than we could have hoped. Either way ti was their call.

 

[Rightguide]

Laughable. Just what do you think the US will do if nukes start flying? Putin isn't suicidal. MAD works as long as assholes like yourself don't succeed in convincing people nukes can be used in a limited manner. It's my understanding that every nuclear war game, every one, ends up in full scale nuclear war. Limited nuclear war is a fairy tale. Russia isn't going to use nukes. It would be the end of them. And us. MAD works.

The fact is those behind Putin are suicidal. To many of those behind Putin, he is weak. Just listen to Dmitry Medvedev sometime and study Russian history. if it was up to him we'd already see the employment of tactical nukes in Ukraine and maybe beyond. Look at the Battle of Stalingrad and understand how fanatically suicidal Russians can be when it comes to dying for their country. They are a completely different people than those of us in the West, a fact that Joe Biden and his globalists don't understand.

I don't say these things to puff up Vladimir Putin or the Russians. I say them to emphasize that America has not fought a peer-level adversary in 80 years. We cannot let ourselves be gaslighted into thinking that taking on the Russians is going to be like facing technologically backward people in Afghanistan, the Middle East, or Africa. They have the largest nuclear inventory in the World and can target any particular square mile in the US or in Europe they want to. We need to be able to talk to the Russians and bring them out of the Chinese orbit. In a statement made in September of 2022 to the Russian Security Council and his top military leaders he said the following:

"If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will certainly use all the means at our disposal to protect Russia and our people. This is not a bluff. The West should know that we have various weapons of destruction, and we will use them to protect our sovereignty. And if someone decides to try to infringe upon Russia or encroach on our territorial integrity, we will respond with all available means, including nuclear weapons. We will go to hell together, but we will ensure that they are going to follow us."

 

[ll74]

Second half of this podcast focuses on sexual violence by Russian forces in Ukraine.

https://pca.st/episode/9cb34f85-1662-4caf-ac3f-5aabb285dbb0

Prosecute them all!

 

[Sean Renaud]

The fact is those behind Putin are suicidal. To many of those behind Putin, he is weak. Just listen to Dmitry Medvedev sometime and study Russian history. if it was up to him we'd already see the employment of tactical nukes in Ukraine and maybe beyond. Look at the Battle of Stalingrad and understand how fanatically suicidal Russians can be when it comes to dying for their country. They are a completely different people than those of us in the West, a fact that Joe Biden and his globalists don't understand.

I don't say these things to puff up Vladimir Putin or the Russians. I say them to emphasize that America has not fought a peer-level adversary in 80 years. We cannot let ourselves be gaslighted into thinking that taking on the Russians is going to be like facing technologically backward people in Afghanistan, the Middle East, or Africa. They have the largest nuclear inventory in the World and can target any particular square mile in the US or in Europe they want to. We need to be able to talk to the Russians and bring them out of the Chinese orbit. In a statement made in September of 2022 to the Russian Security Council and his top military leaders he said the following:

"If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will certainly use all the means at our disposal to protect Russia and our people. This is not a bluff. The West should know that we have various weapons of destruction, and we will use them to protect our sovereignty. And if someone decides to try to infringe upon Russia or encroach on our territorial integrity, we will respond with all available means, including nuclear weapons. We will go to hell together, but we will ensure that they are going to follow us."

We haven't fought a peer level advesary since the Civil War if we're being honest.

 

[ChloeTzang]

The fact is those behind Putin are suicidal. To many of those behind Putin, he is weak. Just listen to Dmitry Medvedev sometime and study Russian history. if it was up to him we'd already see the employment of tactical nukes in Ukraine and maybe beyond. Look at the Battle of Stalingrad and understand how fanatically suicidal Russians can be when it comes to dying for their country. They are a completely different people than those of us in the West, a fact that Joe Biden and his globalists don't understand.

I don't say these things to puff up Vladimir Putin or the Russians. I say them to emphasize that America has not fought a peer-level adversary in 80 years. We cannot let ourselves be gaslighted into thinking that taking on the Russians is going to be like facing technologically backward people in Afghanistan, the Middle East, or Africa. They have the largest nuclear inventory in the World and can target any particular square mile in the US or in Europe they want to. We need to be able to talk to the Russians and bring them out of the Chinese orbit. In a statement made in September of 2022 to the Russian Security Council and his top military leaders he said the following:

"If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will certainly use all the means at our disposal to protect Russia and our people. This is not a bluff. The West should know that we have various weapons of destruction, and we will use them to protect our sovereignty. And if someone decides to try to infringe upon Russia or encroach on our territorial integrity, we will respond with all available means, including nuclear weapons. We will go to hell together, but we will ensure that they are going to follow us."

Russia is going to disintegrate. Everything east of the Urals is colonized territory, and those colonies will win free of Russian, and likely come under Chinese sway regardless, given their proximity to China. Even west of the Urals, there are large areas that are not "Russia." There are also some very large ethnic groups, many of whom do NOT like Russians. Five million Tatars. Bashkirs and Chuvash. Four million Ukrainians. Over a million Mordvins (Finnic, but near the Urals), Mari (also Finnic), Udmurts.... It's a long list, but essentially the Russian Federation is one of the last Colonial States, and the future of the Russian Federation is NOT assured.

Putin will be assassinated, the Russian Army in Ukraine will collapse, similarly to 1917, Ukraine will move back to the 2014 borders, including the Crimea, and stop there, despite large chunks of Russian being traditionally Ukrainian (the Kuban for example). Russian occupiers and collaborators will flee or be expelled, and the colonies will begin to break away.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[Rightguide]

Russia is going to disintegrate. Everything east of the Urals is colonized territory, and those colonies will win free of Russian, and likely come under Chinese sway regardless, given their proximity to China. Even west of the Urals, there are large areas that are not "Russia." There are also some very large ethnic groups, many of whom do NOT like Russians. Five million Tatars. Bashkirs and Chuvash. Four million Ukrainians. Over a million Mordvins (Finnic, but near the Urals), Mari (also Finnic), Udmurts.... It's a long list, but essentially the Russian Federation is one of the last Colonial States, and the future of the Russian Federation is NOT assured.

Putin will be assassinated, the Russian Army in Ukraine will collapse, similarly to 1917, Ukraine will move back to the 2014 borders, including the Crimea, and stop there, despite large chunks of Russian being traditionally Ukrainian (the Kuban for example). Russian occupiers and collaborators will flee or be expelled, and the colonies will begin to break away.

Let me know when you see any evidence of the above actually happening. I think by this time next year we'll see some kind of negotiated settlement of the war in Ukraine. I don't see a return of Crimea, or the eastern provinces in Ukraine ceded to Ukrainian control as a part of those negotiations either. At this point Ukraine doesn't have a lawful ruler and support for Zelensky seems to be waning at home according to this Carnegie report:

https://carnegieendowment.org/posts/2024/03/is-zelenskys-legitimacy-really-at-risk?lang=en

 

[ll74]

Let me know when you see any evidence of the above actually happening. I think by this time next year we'll see some kind of negotiated settlement of the war in Ukraine. I don't see a return of Crimea, or the eastern provinces in Ukraine ceded to Ukrainian control as a part of those negotiations either. At this point Ukraine doesn't have a lawful ruler and support for Zelensky seems to be waning at home according to this Carnegie report:

https://carnegieendowment.org/posts/2024/03/is-zelenskys-legitimacy-really-at-risk?lang=en

Zelensky is the lawful President according to their Constitution. Suggestions otherwise are simply incorrect and is completely Russian propaganda. During martial law, elections are suspended. That means the President continues in their rule.