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ChloeTzang said:
You have a blind spot on Trump which really screws your objectivity. The point here is assisting Ukraine, not pissing all over Democrats or Republicans.

Trump has already stated he favors Lend-Lease, on very generous terms, and Ukraine has already indicated this is acceptable. Your blind hatred of Trump, and the blind hatred and ouright TDS of many Democrats, is what increasingly has led many Republicans to turn their backs on Ukraine. And I tend to agree that supporting anything the Biden Administration supports is questionable.

Rather than working to make supporting Ukraine a bi-partisan American foreign policy victory, the Biden Administration has worked hard to make it a partisan policy issue, and in this, as your attitude so clearly illustrates, the Biden Admin has been very successful. The Biden Admin has been using Ukraine, and this is clearly apparent to Ukraine and Ukrainians as well. In the end, Trump may well be a much more robust supporter of Ukraine, but on HIS terms, not Sullivan the Russian agent's.
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Bullshit, again, as usual.

Let’s go a-read’n, shall we?

Republicans Block Aid to Ukraine, Jeopardizing Its Fight Against Russia​

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/06/us/politics/senate-ukraine-aid-bill.html

How stalled U.S. aid for Ukraine exemplifies GOP’s softening stance on Russia​

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/...e-exemplifies-gops-softening-stance-on-russia

The U.S. Republican schism on Ukraine​

https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/republican-schism-ukraine/

Are there some Democrats that wish to hold back support to Ukraine to make a point? Possibly, but not as much as the GOP in holding back support.

Your diagnosis of TDS is blocking your brain cells from processing solid thought. What a stupid fucking concept that oozed out of your addled brain to think that because people see Trump as the demon that he is—that THIS is why support for Ukraine is being held back? Israel is more of an issue with Ukraine’s support as the religious right wants the rapture to happen so fucking bad they came in their pants as Gaza turns further and further into dust—thanks to Ukraine’s funds and material being diverted to Israel.
 
ChloeTzang said:
rotflmao. you know why, Laz. Don't pretend to be ignorant - you can't possibly be that stupid. Well, you could pretend. You are, in fact, pretending. Or lying. But lying is a Democrat thing and expected. You're wasting your time throwing that bs at me tho. Save it for a Democrat who might believe you. Or agree with you because, you know, the party line.
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How adorable: Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang apparently "thinks" my FACTUAL EVIDENCE BASED posts are intended to persuade lying, gaslighting MAGAts like Chloe, etc, rather than those decent, intelligent individuals who may be less informed than serious political observers (such as myself) on certain matters. (Chloe “Chicongo Tzang is just a convenient political foil.)

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Another reminder of what was in the bill that Trump and MAGAt "republicans" BLOCKED:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...-bill-tighten-border-security-aid-2024-02-04/

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deckardB26354 said:
Bullshit, again, as usual.

Let’s go a-read’n, shall we?

Republicans Block Aid to Ukraine, Jeopardizing Its Fight Against Russia​

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/06/us/politics/senate-ukraine-aid-bill.html

How stalled U.S. aid for Ukraine exemplifies GOP’s softening stance on Russia​

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/...e-exemplifies-gops-softening-stance-on-russia

The U.S. Republican schism on Ukraine​

https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/republican-schism-ukraine/

Are there some Democrats that wish to hold back support to Ukraine to make a point? Possibly, but not as much as the GOP in holding back support.

Your diagnosis of TDS is blocking your brain cells from processing solid thought. What a stupid fucking concept that oozed out of your addled brain to think that because people see Trump as the demon that he is—that THIS is why support for Ukraine is being held back? Israel is more of an issue with Ukraine’s support as the religious right wants the rapture to happen so fucking bad they came in their pants as Gaza turns further and further into dust—thanks to Ukraine’s funds and material being diverted to Israel.
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Tell us then, how did 107 Billion in aid get to Ukraine with a Republican House?
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine
 
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Tell us then, how did 107 Billion in aid get to Ukraine with a Republican House?
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine
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61 billion of it was approved SIX MONTHS TOO LATE, which led to rationing of aid, which led to Russian gains.

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Also:

DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE WERE PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR PASSING THE AID PACKAGES, WITH MINIMAL SUPPORT FROM HOUSE REPUBLICANS.

THE SAME HOLDS TRUE FOR THE SENATE.

TRUMP AND MAGAT REPUBLICANS ARE TRAITORS; FULL STOP.

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Lazaran said:
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61 million of it was approved SIX MONTHS TOO LATE, which led to rationing of aid, which led to Russian gains.

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Also:

DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE WERE PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR PASSING THE AID PACKAGES, WITH MINIMAL SUPPORT FROM HOUSE REPUBLICANS.

THE SAME HOLDS TRUE FOR THE SENATE.

TRUMP AND MAGAT REPUBLICANS ARE TRAITORS; FULL STOP.

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None of it was too late. The Biden Administration had billions in hand and billions unspent from prior allocations. Jake Sullivan chose to stab Ukraine in the back to try and pressure the GOP over an internal domestic political issue. Didn't work. GOP called his bluff, but it was Ukraine that lost thousands of men and also the key position of Avdiivka as a result of Sullivans fuck-aroundary.
 
And the end result of course is that....according to a Quinnipiac University poll released on Aug. 29, Americans are divided on which presidential candidate "would do a better job handling" the war in Ukraine if elected in November.

The poll finds 49 per cent of respondents believe Republican candidate Donald Trump would do a better job, while 47 per cent think Democratic candidate Kamala Harris would be more effective. The poll also revealed that divisions in opinions on Ukraine fall largely along party lines, with 93 per cent of likely Republican voters believing that Trump would be better suited to handle the war, while 93 per cent of likely Democratic voters believed Harris to be better suited.

THAT is what the Biden Administration has managed to do - make Ukraine a partisan party political issue within the USA. Something that should have been the subject of partisan consensus from the start, but Biden fucked it up, proving Obama right yet again.

Democrats - couldn't organize a party in a brewery.

https://kyivindependent.com/america...uited-to-handle-war-in-ukraine-poll-suggests/

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But but but ‘rump allowed military aid!!
Yeah … as long as it was never used against Russia.
 
ChloeTzang said:
None of it was too late. The Biden Administration had billions in hand and billions unspent from prior allocations. Jake Sullivan chose to stab Ukraine in the back to try and pressure the GOP over an internal domestic political issue. Didn't work. GOP called his bluff, but it was Ukraine that lost thousands of men and also the key position of Avdiivka as a result of Sullivans fuck-aroundary.
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“Nuh-uuuuuh” is less characters and equally responsive.

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Oh no! The horror! You’re telling me striking critical infrastructure is a game two can play? Imagine that! Anyhow, what's for breakfast?

Ukraine has carried out yet another massive drone attack on Russia, one of the largest ever.
At least 5 targets struck by Ukraine today in and near the Russian capital:
- Moscow oil refinery
- Volodarskaya fuel depot & pipeline distribution facility
- Two thermal powerplants
- Gas distribution line near a powerplant
Ukrainian drone strikes in Moscow continued into the morning. Given the fact that Russian air defenses are so weak in areas beyond the immediate war zones (even in Moscow!), Russia should expect a very hot winter of fire and smoke and hopefully a very cold winter in their apartments.

Live by the sword, don’t be surprised when you get your butt kicked hard by the sword.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1830105442472600046
https://twitter.com/x/status/1830153637034639698
 
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Just 14-years-old, she was sitting on a bench in a children's playground. Russia had already killed her father in eastern Ukraine, and then Russia came back to kill her.

Yesterday in Kharkiv city, this young girls head was all but decapitated by shrapnel, when Russian bombs struck an apartment block & a children's playground. 7 people died, and around 90 were wounded, including many children. R.I.P

These deaths and others could have been prevented with air defence systems that have NOT been supplied. Canada paid the USA for an entire NSAMS systems a year and a half ago. This has still NOT been ordered by the Biden Administration, let alone supplied. The order was placed by Canada with the USA to ostensibly speed up delivery. It's achieved anything but that.

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ChloeTzang said:
Just 14-years-old, she was sitting on a bench in a children's playground. Russia had already killed her father in eastern Ukraine, and then Russia came back to kill her.

Yesterday in Kharkiv city, this young girls head was all but decapitated by shrapnel, when Russian bombs struck an apartment block & a children's playground. 7 people died, and around 90 were wounded, including many children. R.I.P

These deaths and others could have been prevented with air defence systems that have NOT been supplied. Canada paid the USA for an entire NSAMS systems a year and a half ago. This has still NOT been ordered by the Biden Administration, let alone supplied. The order was placed by Canada with the USA to ostensibly speed up delivery. It's achieved anything but that.

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I call bullshit on this one
 
ll74 said:
I call bullshit on this one
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Why? It's not exactly like it's not happening every other day.

CNN: A day of mourning has been declared in the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv, following Russian bomb attacks that killed at least eight civilians, including a child in a playground.....

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/31/europe/russian-bomb-attack-kharkiv-intl/index.html

Russian attack on Ukraine’s Kharkiv kills at least six, injures dozens​

A 14-year-old girl was among those killed, Interior Minister Igor Klymenko says, and 55 others were wounded.

A Russian attack on the the eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv has killed at least six people, including a 14-year-old girl, and wounded dozens of others, Ukrainian officials have said. “Occupiers killed a child right on the playground,” Kharkiv mayor Ihor Terekhov said in a statement on the Telegram messaging app on Friday. Three other people were killed in a 12-storey apartment block that caught fire as a result of the attack, he said.
“Unfortunately, the death toll has risen to six people,” Kharkiv regional Governor Oleg Synegubov said in a post on Telegram hours after the attack.
A 14-year-old girl was among those killed, Interior Minister Igor Klymenko said. At least 55 people were wounded, he said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024...es-kharkiv-kills-at-least-four-injures-dozens
 
https://www.rt.com/russia/603309-ukraine-illegal-firearms-count/
As the hapless Ukrainian souls are being stuffed into the meat grinder.... o'l booger sugar is sniveling about "illegal firearms" in the possession of the population, requiring them to surrender the weapons to the dieing nazi regime within 90 days of the end of martial law.... my question is what is o'l booger sugar afraid of? Maybe he's afraid that the truth will come to light? This little Satanist has sacrificed "his" people in a blood sacrifice for his own personal gain? At what point in time will the ukies figure out that they've been played by the west.....Ukraine will exist in slavery to the bankers for generations........if I've learned anything from this war as with the attack on Israel that an unarmed people has no chance against an armed force/individual....
 
The Netherlands is delivering 28 Viking tracked vehicles for Ukraine. The Netherlands Marine Corps has trained the Ukrainian military for this.

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ChloeTzang said:
Why? It's not exactly like it's not happening every other day.

CNN: A day of mourning has been declared in the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv, following Russian bomb attacks that killed at least eight civilians, including a child in a playground.....

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/31/europe/russian-bomb-attack-kharkiv-intl/index.html

Russian attack on Ukraine’s Kharkiv kills at least six, injures dozens​

A 14-year-old girl was among those killed, Interior Minister Igor Klymenko says, and 55 others were wounded.

A Russian attack on the the eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv has killed at least six people, including a 14-year-old girl, and wounded dozens of others, Ukrainian officials have said. “Occupiers killed a child right on the playground,” Kharkiv mayor Ihor Terekhov said in a statement on the Telegram messaging app on Friday. Three other people were killed in a 12-storey apartment block that caught fire as a result of the attack, he said.
“Unfortunately, the death toll has risen to six people,” Kharkiv regional Governor Oleg Synegubov said in a post on Telegram hours after the attack.
A 14-year-old girl was among those killed, Interior Minister Igor Klymenko said. At least 55 people were wounded, he said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024...es-kharkiv-kills-at-least-four-injures-dozens
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Because there is a singular view without context. And no corroboration on the photo.

Saying that it has happened before doesn't prove anything except bias.
 
https://tass.com/world/1836383... I'm calling bullshit on this , using highways for a runway, yes it's possible but.... the entire area has to be policed of all, all debris that could possibly be ingested by an engine.....no,no, the F16s are flying out of nato countries...plain and simple....
 
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