For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Fuzzy1975]

Your real enemy is the Biden regime and all who are behind him....

Exactly what a Russian would claim.

before it's all done these evil demons will be herding you and yours into a cattle car

Kind of like Stalin did, right? I'm thinking you got the hots for Putin too....

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Keep waffling Washington.

 

[dkovic77]

Shows how much you know about sources, which is nothing beyond CNN, MSNBC, and the CIA influencer WaPo.

So, the places with actual reporters… with actual facts?

Or are you still looking for the Real killers with OJ? Getting that 2020 election fraud “evidence” too….? Oh wait, it was all laughed out of courts.

 

[dkovic77]

PS: I probably know more than any local research Librarian.

Ohhhhh… highly doubt it. But yeah, you “know” everything but continue to be sooooo wrong, so yeah, you know more ….
Keep going with that.

Even a bad librarian knows more than you.

 

[Rightguide]

More from the graveyard that is Ukraine:

Rushing Ukraine’s counteroffensive causes “unsustainable losses” - British think tank
Ahmed Adel, Cairo-based geopolitics and political economy researcher


A British think tank analysed the failures of Ukraine’s counteroffensive on September 4. According to the report, prepared by two analysts from the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) and cited by Newsweek, Ukrainian forces are facing enormous losses of equipment and the training provided by the West is not adapted to the type of battle they are fighting against Russia.

As observers explained, conclusions about the reasons for the failure of Kiev’s counteroffensive were drawn from the study of tactical actions for two weeks in the villages of Novodarovka and Rovnopol, which are located across the border between Donetsk and Zaporozhye. However, “this approach is slow” and the approximately 700–1,200 yards of progress every five days made by Ukrainian troops, was “allowing Russian forces to reset.”

Ukrainian forces have lost more than 66,000 troops and 7,600 pieces of military equipment since the start of their counteroffensive, Shoigu reported. Russian air defence also shot down more than 1,000 Ukrainian drones over the last month. 159 Himars, multiple launch missiles, 13 cruise missiles, and 34 command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed.

It is a widespread belief now that the counteroffensive has failed, with Kiev and London being the only strongholds contesting against this. However, as the RUSI report demonstrates, the gripping reality is slowly beginning to set in even in London.

Article here: http://infobrics.org/post/39299/



"Speaking to CNN, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley admitted that a Ukrainian victory in the war is a “very high bar” and would take a “very long time.”

“There’s well over 200,000 Russian troops in Russian-occupied Ukraine. This offensive, although significant, has operational and tactical objectives that are limited, in the sense that they do not — even if they are fully achieved — they don’t completely kick out all the Russians, which is the broader strategic objective that President Zelensky had,” Milley told CNN Sunday. “That’s going to take a long time to do that. That’s going to be very significant effort over a considerable amount of time,” he said.

The Financial Times reported that “the idea that Ukrainian forces, lacking any air cover, would storm through Russian lines was always going to be more of a Hollywood plotline than reality. But three months into the counteroffensive, Zelenskyy and his government are dealing with the reality that it has not achieved the desired decisive breakthrough — and are girding themselves for a drawn-out war.”

Ukrainian officials recognize that “the war will be a slow grind”, FT reports. “The question is whether Ukraine’s western backers, who have dug deep into their weapons stockpiles, are committed to giving the country the support and ammunition over the longer haul.“

More here:https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/half-million-dead-ukraine-fires-all-its-deputy/

I will note that Zelensky is again scheduled to speak before all 100 members of the U.S. Senate assembled in the next few days to beg for more money and weapons in support of his war with Putin. Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council head Aleksey Danilov apparently in fear of diminishing Western support for their lost cause was quoted as saying he wanted the Biden regime to bypass the democratic process and
“enshrine military assistance to Ukraine in long-term cycles and legislation.” Hopefully this will fail with Zelensky being advised to seek a peaceful solution instead.

All of that said it isn't as if informed people didn't predict this outcome from the beginning. In a prolonged ground war with a country in possession of a quantifiable number of superior arms, superior Intelligence, overhead surveillance, reconnaissance, targeting technology, and a population four times as large to mobilize from, it isn't hard to assess a probable victor.

 

[ll74]

More from the graveyard that is Ukraine:

Rushing Ukraine’s counteroffensive causes “unsustainable losses” - British think tank
Ahmed Adel, Cairo-based geopolitics and political economy researcher


A British think tank analysed the failures of Ukraine’s counteroffensive on September 4. According to the report, prepared by two analysts from the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) and cited by Newsweek, Ukrainian forces are facing enormous losses of equipment and the training provided by the West is not adapted to the type of battle they are fighting against Russia.

As observers explained, conclusions about the reasons for the failure of Kiev’s counteroffensive were drawn from the study of tactical actions for two weeks in the villages of Novodarovka and Rovnopol, which are located across the border between Donetsk and Zaporozhye. However, “this approach is slow” and the approximately 700–1,200 yards of progress every five days made by Ukrainian troops, was “allowing Russian forces to reset.”

Ukrainian forces have lost more than 66,000 troops and 7,600 pieces of military equipment since the start of their counteroffensive, Shoigu reported. Russian air defence also shot down more than 1,000 Ukrainian drones over the last month. 159 Himars, multiple launch missiles, 13 cruise missiles, and 34 command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed.

It is a widespread belief now that the counteroffensive has failed, with Kiev and London being the only strongholds contesting against this. However, as the RUSI report demonstrates, the gripping reality is slowly beginning to set in even in London.

Article here: http://infobrics.org/post/39299/



"Speaking to CNN, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley admitted that a Ukrainian victory in the war is a “very high bar” and would take a “very long time.”

“There’s well over 200,000 Russian troops in Russian-occupied Ukraine. This offensive, although significant, has operational and tactical objectives that are limited, in the sense that they do not — even if they are fully achieved — they don’t completely kick out all the Russians, which is the broader strategic objective that President Zelensky had,” Milley told CNN Sunday. “That’s going to take a long time to do that. That’s going to be very significant effort over a considerable amount of time,” he said.

The Financial Times reported that “the idea that Ukrainian forces, lacking any air cover, would storm through Russian lines was always going to be more of a Hollywood plotline than reality. But three months into the counteroffensive, Zelenskyy and his government are dealing with the reality that it has not achieved the desired decisive breakthrough — and are girding themselves for a drawn-out war.”

Ukrainian officials recognize that “the war will be a slow grind”, FT reports. “The question is whether Ukraine’s western backers, who have dug deep into their weapons stockpiles, are committed to giving the country the support and ammunition over the longer haul.“

More here:https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/half-million-dead-ukraine-fires-all-its-deputy/

I will note that Zelensky is again scheduled to speak before all 100 members of the U.S. Senate assembled in the next few days to beg for more money and weapons in support of his war with Putin. Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council head Aleksey Danilov apparently in fear of diminishing Western support for their lost cause was quoted as saying he wanted the Biden regime to bypass the democratic process and
“enshrine military assistance to Ukraine in long-term cycles and legislation.” Hopefully this will fail with Zelensky being advised to seek a peaceful solution instead.

All of that said it isn't as if informed people didn't predict this outcome from the beginning. In a prolonged ground war with a country in possession of a quantifiable number of superior arms, superior Intelligence, overhead surveillance, reconnaissance, targeting technology, and a population four times as large to mobilize from, it isn't hard to assess a probable victor.

You want Russia to win and Ukraine to surrender. We know that already.

 

[Rightguide]

’Fast forward a year, and the Ukrainian Army is still advancing…’

Good news. I look forward to the day the Ukrainians liberate their country from the fascist invader.

Yep, to numbers of dead not seen since WWII. Most on the Ukraine side.

 

[Rightguide]

Larry Johnson who spent 22 years asa CIA Agent and Special Operations planner takes down another ill-informed ex-Army type:

A Message For Lt. Colonel (Retired USARMY) Daniel Davis​

By Larry Johnson Sep. 18, 2023 9:15 am

I have had several people flag a recent article in 1945 by Daniel Davis. I do not know the man but one friend, who fought alongside Davis, credits him as a brave man under fire. So this is not an attack on his character. But as I said to my knowledgeable friend, “Bravery under combat does not mean one is qualified to do analysis.” I think the article by Davis is a benchmark of sorts because it signals that someone who in previous articles was a strong supporter of the Ukraine narrative (i.e., Ukraine is winning) is having some serious second thoughts. Let me break it down.

Davis’ opening observation qualifies as “No Shit Analysis.”

The unchallenged assumption among the majority of senior U.S. and NATO officials is that for as long as the war between Russia and Ukraine continues, one of the West’s most preferred policy outcomes of the war will be perpetually met: weakening Russia. Going unnoticed by most Western leaders, however, there is an emerging risk that the longer the war continues, Russia will grow stronger, not weaker.

Risk? With all due respect Colonel Davis, we’re already there. Even the New York Times conceded last week that Russia is producing double the artillery shells in one year (two million) that the U.S. hopes to produce in the next two years. Russia’s economy is doing just fine and its defense industry has shifted into overdrive.

Who is being weakened? Well, Ukraine for starters. It is losing population through emigration. Its industrial based is being steadily whittled away by Russian missiles and bombs. And its army is suffering catastrophic casualties and there is no solution on the horizon for replacing those loses with trained troops. But it is not just Ukraine. NATO also is being weakened. None of its previous supplies of tanks, M777s, Himars, ATGMs and Bradley fighting vehicles have worked as hoped. Those are being destroyed on a regular basis and there are dwindling supplies in Western warehouses.

The rest of Johnson's analysis here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/message-lt-colonel-retired-usarmy-daniel-davis/

PS: Larry Johnson has sources all over Europe and beyond.

 

[Raazor]

Yep, to numbers of dead not seen since WWII. Most on the Ukraine side.

That is a matter for the Ukrainians. It is their fight, but they also know that surrender will likely mean genocide and elimination of their country and culture. Which is why, ultimately they will win.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Yep, to numbers of dead not seen since WWII. Most on the Ukraine side.

270K for Russia vs 90K for Ukraine. There is not a reputable news source anywhere that reports more Ukrainian's killed than Russian's...wrongway living up to his moniker.

 

[jomar]

If the source is factual what difference does it make?

It’s a matter of wasting time wading through and debunking the bullshit. Just link from a credible source and debate from there. Problem is, why do you think he links rwcj sites?

 

[icanhelp1]

It’s a matter of wasting time wading through and debunking the bullshit. Just link from a credible source and debate from there. Problem is, why do you think he links rwcj sites?

You mean like CNN, TIMES, WaPo pushing the Russia hoax, pushing the laptop as Russian disinformation, that kind of bullshit?

 

[ll74]

You mean like CNN, TIMES, WaPo pushing the Russia hoax, pushing the laptop as Russian disinformation, that kind of bullshit?

The guy who believes shit from Russian state media is lecturing people about the news

 

[jomar]

You mean like CNN, TIMES, WaPo pushing the Russia hoax, pushing the laptop as Russian disinformation, that kind of bullshit?

If that’s your bias. WAPO is middle of the road on news, but skews left on editorial opinions. And CNN and TIMES don’t peg the needle whackadoodle, like your favorite sources.

Besides, what Russian hoax? And hunters laptop was gangbanged so many times who knows what was really on it.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You mean like CNN, TIMES, WaPo pushing the Russia hoax,

There was no Russian hoax. Russia actively interfered in the Trump/Clinton election. They pushed for Trump to win.

Trump's team met with Russia operatives,but never acted or engaged in anything criminal. The only possible criminal issue, as pointed out by Mueller was "obstruction" by Trump after the fact where he tried to cover up the meeting.

That you are so absolutely fucking stupid to not be able to comprehend this, due to your fanatical support of everything Trump is beyond hilarity now, and bordering upon a mental deficiency

 

[Tigersman]

I gotta ask, what is it with the warmongering democrats? As you have stated 400,000 at Arlington is a portion of the dead for there bullshit agenda...
Every world war has begun with a democrat president, and this mother fucker is no deferent... when is enough, enough?
No money to speak of for the victims in Hawaii or for that matter the homeless here in America, billions for that despot Zelensky. Fuck me to tears

Democrats didn't start WW I or WW II although we were drawn into them. It's apparent you would prefer having Russia rebuild the old USSR by conquering free nations like Ukraine, and the Poland, Romania, Hungary, etc. Once Putin conquers Ukraine he has already said he will go after Poland who is a member of NATO which will pull us into the fight leading to WW II and nuclear war. You want that?

 

[Buffalogurl]

Democrats didn't start WW I or WW II although we were drawn into them. It's apparent you would prefer having Russia rebuild the old USSR by conquering free nations like Ukraine, and the Poland, Romania, Hungary, etc. Once Putin conquers Ukraine he has already said he will go after Poland who is a member of NATO which will pull us into the fight leading to WW II and nuclear war. You want that?

We're already in WW 3 just read open source information. Ask yourself why did president Putin go to war? His country has an estimated 73 trillion in natural resources. What prompted this gunfight? (Putin) is risking his life, political life, and Russian's national sovereignty. There are unseen very powerful entities at play here far and away above our pay rate, that you and I are not privy to. Just observe the "accidents" in our food supply chain for staters..
If you believe your government has your best interests in mind, they have a cattle car waiting to transport you to a FEMA work camp "it's for the children " go read the patriot act and study the central bank digital currency.....

 

[RandyRebecca]

Some ACTUAL American Putin sympathizers (not Russian bots) are from the far right, and some are from the far left.

Both groups are pathetic, traitorous scum. The Russian bots are less odious. - And I hate Russian bots.

*nods*

Senator Joseph McCarthy would have loved you.

The only scum here are those establishment people leading soldiers into a war that they cannot win, using them as cannon fodder. What have all those Ukrainian soldiers died for, exactly? Tell me that.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Democrats didn't start WW I or WW II although we were drawn into them.

WW2 was a just war, to defeat the evil of fascism. WW1 was an absolute disgrace, a senseless waste of millions of lives just so corporate plunderers could redivide the world's colonies between themselves. Wilson won re-election in 1916 on staying out of WW1, then went straight into the war early into his second term, as well as starting the first red scare and putting Eugene Debs in a federal pen.

It's apparent you would prefer having Russia rebuild the old USSR by conquering free nations like Ukraine, and the Poland, Romania, Hungary, etc. Once Putin conquers Ukraine he has already said he will go after Poland who is a member of NATO which will pull us into the fight leading to WW II and nuclear war. You want that?

If Putin is similar to any past Russian figure, it's a Tsar, and even that wouldn't be accurate.

 

[Lazaran]

•
Joseph McCarthy was a product of his times, dealing with a widely feared threat from a MORE authoritarian, totalitarian, brutal system of government.

He was also a deeply flawed alcoholic that lost the plot.

The Russian Putin regime is also a MORE authoritarian, totalitarian, brutal system of government that demands united opposition from freedom loving people.

Freedom loving American’s opposition to the brutal and corrupt Russian Putin regime can be extended to standing up to domestic brutality and corruption.

“The ARC of morality bends towards justice”.

An ARC is not a straight line.

Finding equilibrium in governing and society require agility and flexibility based on the contemporary conditions.

Democrats are currently displaying agility and flexibility when dealing with foreign and domestic challenges. Mindless obstruction and opposition from the far left and the far right is having the predictable effect: Suboptimal results.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[Rightguide]

That is a matter for the Ukrainians. It is their fight, but they also know that surrender will likely mean genocide and elimination of their country and culture. Which is why, ultimately they will win.

There wouldn't be a fight without us. We're paying all of their bills. They cannot win.

 

[RandyRebecca]

The Russian Putin regime is also a MORE authoritarian, totalitarian, brutal system of government that demands united opposition from freedom loving people.

What do you mean by "freedom"? Explain. The Soviet Union had a nationalized planned economy and was one of two world superpowers for most of its existence, with very little to no unemployment, guaranteed healthcare, education, very affordable rents etc., but under Stalinism virtually no political voice at all and a mixture of too much of some commodities and too little of other commodities because the state bureaucracy had usurped the working class that they were supposed to represent so weren't planning for the working population.

When capitalists talk about "freedom", they usually mean the right of big business to exploit workers' labor and make a huge profit at workers' expense. No working class people anywhere in the world needs that kind of "freedom". The Putin regime is that of a capitalist, oligarchic, gangster regime, yet is opposed by so many US capitalists (Biden included) who retain their Cold War mentality towards Russia. NATO's wet dream is to balkanize Russia by breaking it up into little states like they did to Yugoslavia from 1991-2003, and then move on to doing the same with China by using a mixture of Hong Kong, Xinjiang and Taiwan.

Democrats are currently displaying agility and flexibility when dealing with foreign and domestic challenges. Mindless obstruction and opposition from the far left and the far right is having the predictable effect: Suboptimal results.

Joe Biden being semi senile is a fitting president for the current state of US foreign policy. The Russians have dug their heels in with their defensive lines, particularly along the Black Sea coastal areas that they occupy, and are picking off the Ukrainians who NATO send to their deaths in a WW1 style "go over the top of the trench, into no man's land" fashion. This situation cannot continue indefinitely until something snaps, and it might very happen in the 2024 election period.

 

[RandyRebecca]

There wouldn't be a fight without us. We're paying all of their bills. They cannot win.

With our taxpayer dollars and all those people's lives. It's outrageous.

 

[Tigersman]

With our taxpayer dollars and all those people's lives. It's outrageous.

So you would prefer our nation to withhold all military aid like your savior Trump tried to do. You want to give away another nation's democracy and freedom so Putin can move on to doing the same thing to Poland which would draw us into the fight since Poland belongs to NATO. Once we enter the fight, it will give Putin reason enough to launch nuclear missiles at our nation. Once Russia does that the North Korea and China might decide the time is right to launch their nuclear missiles at us as well. Once the dust settles, in two years tim there will be no existing human or animal life left. Radiation poisoning will have rendered our plant uninhabitable.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

There wouldn't be a fight without us.

lol I'm pretty sure the Ukraine's would be using shovels and pitchforks if that is all they had...

We're paying all of their bills.

No the US is not, why do you lie so blatantly with easily shown facts disproving what you claim.

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/

They cannot win.

Time will tell. Right now Russia is sure drawing out that "three day" operation....