For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Rightguide]

With our taxpayer dollars and all those people's lives. It's outrageous.

It's like we're footing the bill for Ukrainian extinction and not giving a single thought to what might happen if Putin decides to attack that supply line here at home or in Britain. With the invasion of mostly military-aged males coming over the border, 7 million since Biden took office, taking over our towns and cities, draining our resources, and all of the alleged "accidents" in our rail, energy, and food production sectors, one can wonder if we aren't already under attack.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It's like we're footing the bill for Ukrainian extinction and not giving a single thought to what might happen if Putin decides to attack that supply line here at home or in Britain.

LOL If Putin attacked....that would be an attack on NATO. Putin's stupid, but he's not as stupid as you are.

With the invasion of mostly military-aged males coming over the border, 7 million since Biden took office, taking over our towns and cities, draining our resources, and all of the alleged "accidents" in our rail, energy, and food production sectors, one can wonder if we aren't already under attack.

Sure, I like how you try and tie all your grievances into one nice and neat bow!!

PS do you walk around all the time looking up, just to make sure the sky hasn't started to fall?

 

[Rightguide]

Exclusive: American Citizen Journalist Sitting in Ukraine Prison, State Dept. Confirms, as Biden Begs for Billions More to Protect Ukrainian ‘Freedom​

KURT ZINDULKA and KRISTINA WONG19 Sep 2023

While lawmakers on Capitol Hill in Washington D.C. debate sending billions more in military aid to Ukraine, an American citizen journalist, Gonzalo Lira, is languishing in a Ukrainian prison on allegations of spreading Russian propaganda, throwing into question the status of free speech in the supposed democracy the Biden administration argues is worthy of more taxpayer dollars.

Lira, a dual citizen of the United States and Chile who was living in the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv at the time of the Russian invasion, is reportedly facing between five to eight years in prison under Ukraine’s wartime propaganda laws.

The American citizen journalist was initially arrested in May of this year on suspicion of producing pro-Russian propaganda on his YouTube channel, where he questioned the narratives around the war presented in the legacy media and from the Zelensky government, including suggesting that Moscow was provoked into invading by the Ukrainian government and the expansion east of the American-led NATO military alliance.

In July of this year, Lira posted messages on Twitter and YouTube claiming that he was going to try to cross the Ukrainian border into Hungary to claim asylum after being released from prison on bail. He has not posted on either platform since

Mere here: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...for-billions-more-to-protect-ukraine-freedom/

We should insist on the release of this American before any new money goes to Ukraine.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Exclusive: American Citizen Journalist Sitting in Ukraine Prison, State Dept. Confirms, as Biden Begs for Billions More to Protect Ukrainian ‘Freedom​

KURT ZINDULKA and KRISTINA WONG19 Sep 2023

While lawmakers on Capitol Hill in Washington D.C. debate sending billions more in military aid to Ukraine, an American citizen journalist, Gonzalo Lira, is languishing in a Ukrainian prison on allegations of spreading Russian propaganda,

And if you were in Ukraine, you'd end up there to. Some free advice, don't go to Ukraine, they have no use for Russian lovers like yourself!!

 

[Rightguide]

lol I'm pretty sure the Ukraine's would be using shovels and pitchforks if that is all they had...

No the US is not, why do you lie so blatantly with easily shown facts disproving what you claim.

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/

Time will tell. Right now Russia is sure drawing out that "three day" operation....

As of 20 Sep 2023, the US has contributed $19.25 billion in budget support to enable the Government of Ukraine to pay salaries of first responders and government officials, meet pension obligations, and operate hospitals.1 President Biden made a statement in April 2022 that some of the funding in a Ukraine aid package that Congress later overwhelmingly approved could be used to pay pensions for Ukrainians amid the ongoing war with Russia. A USAID spokesperson sent another USAID report to Congress that indicated $4 billion of budget support for Ukraine was spent on pensions as of Nov. 30, 2022.2 The $4.5 billion budgetary grant will fund urgent government needs, including payments for pensions, social welfare, and healthcare costs, bringing total U.S. fiscal aid for Ukraine to $8.5 billion since Russia's February invasion.3 The largest bucket of overall U.S. aid committed to Ukraine is military support.0 The United States fully supports the OECD Country Program for Ukraine and is pleased to commit $437,000 for its implementation.1
apnews.com
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state.gov
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factcheck.org
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reuters.com
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...billion-more-ukraine-budget-needs-2022-08-08/
There is this as well from the Council On Foreign elations. Check out these graphs outlining our expenditures which outstrip by a long shot any other foreign expenditures either present or past:
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts

Then after reading do shut the fuck up.

 

[Buffalogurl]

It's like we're footing the bill for Ukrainian extinction and not giving a single thought to what might happen if Putin decides to attack that supply line here at home or in Britain. With the invasion of mostly military-aged males coming over the border, 7 million since Biden took office, taking over our towns and cities, draining our resources, and all of the alleged "accidents" in our rail, energy, and food production sectors, one can wonder if we aren't already under attack.

^^^^^^^^^^exactly this ^^^^^^^^^^ we are under attack, this is a world war....we are being invaded by an occupying army, just view the invaders, most are looking to be single, well fed and of military age... we've been sold out for the 30 pieces of silver. Those that sold us out actually believe they'll have a place at the table when all said and done. In reality they'll be the first to be herded into the cattle car....

 

[ll74]

^^^^^^^^^^exactly this ^^^^^^^^^^ we are under attack, this is a world war....we are being invaded by an occupying army, just view the invaders, most are looking to be single, well fed and of military age... we've been sold out for the 30 pieces of silver. Those that sold us out actually believe they'll have a place at the table when all said and done. In reality they'll be the first to be herded into the cattle car....

Yes, Putin's cock is thoroughly in your holes.

 

[Rightguide]

^^^^^^^^^^exactly this ^^^^^^^^^^ we are under attack, this is a world war....we are being invaded by an occupying army, just view the invaders, most are looking to be single, well fed and of military age... we've been sold out for the 30 pieces of silver. Those that sold us out actually believe they'll have a place at the table when all said and done. In reality they'll be the first to be herded into the cattle car....

Those foreign-born military-aged males in places like NYC are jumping and robbing citizens on the street thus cutting into the territories and economies of local gangs who are getting their asses kicked as well. Our beloved Zumi can't leave the house. The Mayor was in favor of being a sanctuary city until it was and has since declared a city-wide emergency and is suggesting that citizens take these people into their homes. So he's ready to hand over the keys of the city.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

As of 20 Sep 2023, the US has contributed $19.25 billion in budget support

lol even your own link proves you wrong....

You claimed the USA was paying all the bill!!

There wouldn't be a fight without us. We're paying all of their bills. They cannot win.

It's right there in bold black you dumbfuck!

Don''t tell me to read, learn to do it yourself first!!

 

[Rightguide]

Yes, Putin's cock is thoroughly in your holes.

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This is what the left does when they cannot address the issue at hand. They expose their empty scrota and attack the messenger.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

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This is what the left does when they cannot address the issue at hand. They expose their empty scrota and attack the messenger.

lol and you're what an idiot who doesn't know better does.......Learned to read you're own posts and links yet?? Eh wrongway?

 

[ll74]

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This is what the left does when they cannot address the issue at hand. They expose their empty scrota and attack the messenger.

The issue is that Russia is killing Ukranians.

 

[Rightguide]

lol and you're what an idiot who doesn't know better does.......Learned to read you're own posts and links yet?? Eh wrongway?

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This is the kind of sentence one writes after dropping out of school at a young age.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

^^^
This is the kind of sentence one writes after dropping out of school at a young age.

lol, you don't deserve a better sentence, you ignorant twit. Fuck you can't even post links to back your own arguments. Why should I bother with high school level grammar and words, when you obviously don't understand them???

 

[Rightguide]

lol, you don't deserve a better sentence, you ignorant twit. Fuck you can't even post links to back your own arguments. Why should I bother with high school level grammar and words, when you obviously don't understand them???

I understand enough to point them out and correct your ignorant ass.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I understand enough to point them out and correct your ignorant ass.

lol, sure you do...*pats head* now run along and play, the Adults are trying to have a conversation...

 

[AlexBailey]

Sure, just let Putin take Ukraine. He’ll be satisfied and definitely won’t try to attack any other sovereign nations because he believes in international law and is a good citizen and all that.

 

[Rightguide]

Biden Uses NY Times To Send Zelensky An Unpleasant Message​

By Larry Johnson Sep. 20, 2023 7:00 am

If you have not figured it out by now, Government is like Kabuki theater — i.e., it is an event characterized more by showmanship than by content. The Cocaine King of Kiev, Volodymyr Zelensky, arrived in New York City last night expecting to be greeted, once again, as the reincarnation of Churchill. Notwithstanding the pleasantries at JFK Airport, Zelensky was in for a rude awakening. The early edition of the New York Times delivered a gut punch with its bombshell report, Evidence Suggests Ukrainian Missile Caused Market Tragedy:

On Sept. 6, a missile strike rocked Kostiantynivka, a town in the Donetsk region under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The missile hit a bustling city market at 2:04 p.m. local time, leaving 16 dead and 33 injured. Photos and videos of the aftermath of the strike have been circulated by various media outlets worldwide. . . .
But evidence collected and analyzed by The New York Times, including missile fragments, satellite imagery, witness accounts and social media posts, strongly suggests the catastrophic strike was the result of an errant Ukrainian air defense missile fired by a Buk launch system.
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Further evidence reveals that minutes before the strike, the Ukrainian military launched two surface-to-air missiles toward the Russian front line from the town of Druzhkivka, 10 miles northwest of Kostiantynivka.

More here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/biden-uses-ny-times-send-zelensky-unpleasant-message/

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Biden Uses NY Times To Send Zelensky An Unpleasant Message​

By Larry Johnson Sep. 20, 2023 7:00 am

If you have not figured it out by now, Government is like Kabuki theater — i.e., it is an event characterized more by showmanship than by content. The Cocaine King of Kiev,

lol when you post articles that have descriptions such as this, no one will believe the author. Even if it is the truth.

FTR it was 99% possible, that he missile that hit the market was a Ukrainian one. Shit happens in war.

Biden didn't use the NY times, I'm sure he'd have spoken directly to Zelensky on it. He's not a chicken shit like Trump was....

 

[Rightguide]

Sure, just let Putin take Ukraine. He’ll be satisfied and definitely won’t try to attack any other sovereign nations because he believes in international law and is a good citizen and all that.

Did I ever say that? No, I didn't. The point is this is none of our business. Learn the history of Ukraine. Learn the history of Ukraine between 2014 and today. Where were you when Obama turned his back on the Russian annexation of Crimea? Where were you when Ukrainian Azov and Right Sector Nazi militias were killing 14,000 Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the Donbass provinces of Ukraine prior to the Russian annexation and the subsequent invasion? I know you were out shopping for a new feathered boa and didn't give two shits about it.

 

[AlexBailey]

Did I ever say that? No, I didn't. The point is this is none of our business. Learn the history of Ukraine. Learn the history of Ukraine between 2014 and today. Where were you when Obama turned his back on the Russian annexation of Crimea? Where were you when Ukrainian Azov and Right Sector Nazi militias were killing 14,000 Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the Donbass provinces of Ukraine prior to the Russian annexation and the subsequent invasion? I know you were out shopping for a new feathered boa and didn't give two shits about it.

Where are you now that Ukrainians want to stand against an authoritarian aggressor who is shelling cities and killing civilians?

Oh that’s right, you’re MAGA, so fuck democracy.

 

[TJX]

We get it Rightguide, you're scared. That makes you weak. You feel it's safer to appease Russia than to stand up for a stable geopolitical world. Appeasement didn't work for Joseph Kennedy and it won't work for you. it's time to grow a pair of balls and stand with the courageous. But you won't do that because you're scared. And weak.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Did I ever say that? No, I didn't.

Of course you didn't, you're a chickenshit who just posts other people's articles that say what you think.

The point is this is none of our business.

Ummm no it's not, it our business, as much as WW2 was our business

Learn the history of Ukraine.

Those who fail to learn the lessons of history, are bound to repeat those same mistakes.....

Where were you when Obama turned his back on the Russian annexation of Crimea?

You got a point there, Obama made a red line, then ran from it....

I'm going out shopping for a new feathered boa and don't give two shits about it.

You're right, no one cares....

 

[Lazaran]

Did I ever say that? No, I didn't. The point is this is none of our business. Learn the history of Ukraine. Learn the history of Ukraine between 2014 and today. Where were you when Obama turned his back on the Russian annexation of Crimea? Where were you when Ukrainian Azov and Right Sector Nazi militias were killing 14,000 Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the Donbass provinces of Ukraine prior to the Russian annexation and the subsequent invasion? I know you were out shopping for a new feathered boa and didn't give two shits about it.

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"Right"guide obviously doesn’t understand the history of the conflict in Ukraine or President Obama’s and the EU’s harsh sanctions response to the Russian annexation of Crimea.

Let me help.

From the web:

“The war in Donbas, or Donbas war, was an armed conflict in the Donbas region of Ukraine, part of the broader Russo-Ukrainian War. The war began in April 2014 when armed Russian-backed separatists seized government buildings and the Ukrainian militarylaunched an operation against them.”

And here are President Obama’s and the EU’s sanctions response to Russia’s annexation of Crimea:

From the web:

“Overall, three types of sanctions were imposed: ban on provision of technology for oil and gas exploration, ban on provision of credits to Russian oil companies and state banks, travel restrictions on the influential Russian citizens close to President Putin and involved in the annexation of Crimea.”

Hope that ^ helps.



"Right"guide

 

[RandyRebecca]

So you would prefer our nation to withhold all military aid like your savior Trump tried to do.

Excuse me? Savior Trump, indeed

I don't support wars waged to enrich billionaires at our expense, nor the military-industrial complex who want to rule the world and treat people as collateral damage.

You want to give away another nation's democracy and freedom so Putin can move on to doing the same thing to Poland which would draw us into the fight since Poland belongs to NATO.

What democracy is in Ukraine? At least a dozen parties have been banned there since 2014, including the pre-coup ruling party The Party of Regions, and with the Communist Party having had its assets seized by the government. Putin is only in Ukraine because the Biden administration pushed for it, with provocations, war games etc. near Russia's borders, with the US (under Bush Sr.'s administration) having told Gorbachev (i.e. lied) that NATO wouldn't go eastwards. Biden wanted to drive a wedge in between Russia and European countries in terms of trade.