Haiku

one of my favorite Basho pens

Come out to view
the truth of flowers blooming
in poverty
-- Basho
 
Art, ever heard the expression 'Jack of all trades, master of none'? i used to think that was me. i'm tenacious in my learning, when something grabs my interest i stick with it until i am satisfied i can do it to the very best of my ability, eg the back of my cross-stitching work is as perfect as the front - same with drawing or photography or anything i enjoy. (why was i never like this in school? lol )

i like Haiku as i like the thought processes. i need to transfer the same kind of 'editing' process into my other writing. i'll get there, eventually. many of us slow learners do. i have to say, i've never spent so much time thinking and playing with so few words in my entire life. i love it. :)


blue, that is a stunning Haiku. the more i read of Basho's Haiku, the more i am in complete awe of the man.

i think with reading Haiku you have to have the same feeling as the person writing it. you have to have the ability of an open mind and an open soul to be able to feel his poetry to the fullest. i think if one doesn't have these things, then his words (and any good Haiku for that matter) must seem very one or two dimensional, very flat. it's quite different reading compared to reading other poetry forms, in my opinion.


:rose:
 
am thrilled 4 U...WSO

wildsweetone said:
Art, ever heard the expression 'Jack of all trades, master of none'? i used to think that was me. i'm tenacious in my learning, when something grabs my interest i stick with it until i am satisfied i can do it to the very best of my ability, eg the back of my cross-stitching work is as perfect as the front - same with drawing or photography or anything i enjoy. (why was i never like this in school? lol )

i like Haiku as i like the thought processes. i need to transfer the same kind of 'editing' process into my other writing. i'll get there, eventually. many of us slow learners do. i have to say, i've never spent so much time thinking and playing with so few words in my entire life. i love it. :)


blue, that is a stunning Haiku. the more i read of Basho's Haiku, the more i am in complete awe of the man.

i think with reading Haiku you have to have the same feeling as the person writing it. you have to have the ability of an open mind and an open soul to be able to feel his poetry to the fullest. i think if one doesn't have these things, then his words (and any good Haiku for that matter) must seem very one or two dimensional, very flat. it's quite different reading compared to reading other poetry forms, in my opinion.


:rose:

to see the world of basho...I started writing poetry ..with just rhyme schemes and then I found Basho...and was hooked..I took the name bluerains from his name


Basho nowaki shite * A banana plant in the autumn gale -
Tarai ni ame o * I listen to the dripping of rain..*
Kiku yo kana * Into a basin at night. a blue basin of rain...that has been me ..often..


am so glad you are becoming a fan... :rose:
 
i take a pleasurable feeling from the meaning of his name (thank you for sharing it, i didn't know).

and yet, in english the word 'blue' is often used as a negative (that's not the word i wanted to say but another is not coming to mind at the moment).

bluerain - for me i have this feeling i get when i hear rainfall land softly - you know the kind of rain? not the harsh pelting stuff, but the kind that just seems to plop softly as it lands. beautiful :rose:
 
My Erotic Trail said:
I stand like the tall
giant red woods of the Sequoia
from my Bonsai bowl

did you write this?

it's making me laugh and i'm not sure if i should be. ;)
 
wildsweetone said:
did you write this?

it's making me laugh and i'm not sure if i should be. ;)

I derived this from a similar Haiku. I don't recall the original (so long ago) but I changed it (liked it) and had it in my signature for awhile (back then).
 
maybe we should try a Shoot Out.

it'll be a bit messy with time zone differences. maybe we could work something out though. :)
 
wildsweetone said:
maybe we should try a Shoot Out.

it'll be a bit messy with time zone differences. maybe we could work something out though. :)

I like that idea...two words I have picked up from my Brit pal is shagging and bollicks...
told him I was going to do a poem about him some day...the brit with 4 word vocabulary...add getting pissed and FUCK...and you have Martin in a "nutshell"...oh..back to the shagging...I luv that word...I shall work on a senryu... :D
 
i've looked back through my Haiku notes and discovered i can't use 'ing' so i'll have to dream up another way for the fence and the shag to shake. that'll keep me busy for a few days. ;)

your Brit pal sounds pretty normal :D except has he used the word 'ratarsed' yet? lol
 
wildsweetone said:
maybe we should try a Shoot Out.

it'll be a bit messy with time zone differences. maybe we could work something out though. :)

I am home most nights after 5 central except thursday <class> You may need to make a shoot out thread asking who would like to do this and then get every ones best time frame.
 
My Erotic Trail said:
I am home most nights after 5 central except thursday <class> You may need to make a shoot out thread asking who would like to do this and then get every ones best time frame.

i suck at figuring out time zone differences. i'll give it some thought though :)
 
the fat crow does laugh
steam rises reveals rooftops
he hops as promised.
 
Winter Thoughts

Crow above squirrel
acorn falls into fresh snow
food for poet thoughts
 
Reltne said:
Crow above squirrel
acorn falls into fresh snow
food for poet thoughts


imprints in snow
..acorn
..squirrel
.....crow
 
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Woozle Whifflin'

Fresh footprints in the snow
Around the corner comes the beast
Snuffling after Woozle

Once around and back again
Dog entranced by scent in snow
Wizzle joins the Woozle


02/'06
 
hey, WildSweetOne

can I play on your haiku thread? I am not real good at this form, and just curious, interested in learning, so if I post one, will you help me out with it? anyone at all? that would be cool :rose:


I did this on the passion thread. My computer is next to the window in my kitchen-annex-type room and there are 2 dogwood trees that the berries turned all pretty red months ago. This morning there was a cat bird, ( its actually a mocking bird, I think). It was plucking the berries and eating them, would fly away then come back for more, and occasionally I see baby dogwoods sprouted in the woods when the weather warms up and the rain has pounded them into the more fertile soil beneath the pine canopy.


catbird

red berries
dinner
wild dogwoods sprout
in spring

~~~


is the order okay? shoudl I change it? you can tweak it to show me a better way, oh Sweet One, thak you ;)

:heart:
 
waffling out loud

catbird

red berries
dinner
wild dogwoods sprout
in spring


you're asking me? lol heck i'm still learning this form. and there's lots of rules and preferences.

check out jthserra's essays on haiku he has several and they're an excellent place to begin.

okay let me fiddle...

catbird

red berries
dinner
wild dogwoods sprout
in spring

i read somewhere that a Haiku should not have a title, so in that case 'catbird' should be in the ku itself.

also, a Haiku should be three lines which contain comparison, or contrast, or association.

so let's see what we have...

catbird
red berries dinner
wild dogwoods sprout

we don't need 'spring' because that is already inferred with the word 'sprout' and Haiku don't like similar words being used.

i also read somewhere you can start with something big and focus down to something small... so,

wild dogwoods sprout
red berries dinner
catbird

see the focus narrows down? still, i don't much like that as the image doesn't seem to flow as well as it could.

another 'rule' is that Haiku prefer to have the larger amount of syllables in the center line... so, let's fiddle again...

red berries
wild dogwoods sprout
catbird dinner

wait up... i'm forgetting. am i right in thinking red berries on the dogwood trees are not there in Spring, they're there in Winter. so there's a mixture of seasons here which is not quite how a Haiku should work. it's meant to be a single moment in time.

are there really dogwoods sprouting right now as the red berries are around?

i'll wait for your answer to that Maria, before i fiddle any more

:)
 
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Thank you, WSO :)

I have read jim's haiku essays. They are excellent, very informative. I understand the "rules" per say, I just have trouble deciding how to place the lines, which should come first, what order. The nuances, I guess cannot be taught, must be learned, must be felt,. I have also read of another style of haiku, not so strict in the oriental roots of the art. i thought that is where you were going with this thread....oh well, I will keep trying. and of course, I will ask you for info, you are very good! That day you were describing the events in your yard and through the fence, well, that was poetic!!

I havent seen any new dogwood sprouts yet, it will be a month or so before the all of the spring things begin their climb from the soil to sun, but the daffodils have emerged, they are 4 inches tall so far and have the little flower buds encases in the papery skin that holds them until they finally burst free. I cant wait!! February is usually our wettest, coldest month, glad it is the shortest as well .

:heart:

maria




wildsweetone said:
you're asking me? lol heck i'm still learning this form. and there's lots of rules and preferences.

check out jthserra's essays on haiku he has several and they're an excellent place to begin.

okay let me fiddle...

catbird

red berries
dinner
wild dogwoods sprout
in spring

i read somewhere that a Haiku should not have a title, so in that case 'catbird' should be in the ku itself.

also, a Haiku should be three lines which contain comparison, or contrast, or association.

so let's see what we have...

catbird
red berries dinner
wild dogwoods sprout

we don't need 'spring' because that is already inferred with the word 'sprout' and Haiku don't like similar words being used.

i also read somewhere you can start with something big and focus down to something small... so,

wild dogwoods sprout
red berries dinner
catbird

see the focus narrows down? still, i don't much like that as the image doesn't seem to flow as well as it could.

another 'rule' is that Haiku prefer to have the larger amount of syllables in the center line... so, let's fiddle again...

red berries
wild dogwoods sprout
catbird dinner

wait up... i'm forgetting. am i right in thinking red berries on the dogwood trees are not there in Spring, they're there in Winter. so there's a mixture of seasons here which is not quite how a Haiku should work. it's meant to be a single moment in time.

are there really dogwoods sprouting right now as the red berries are around?

i'll wait for your answer to that Maria, before i fiddle any more

:)
 
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