How you became bisexual

[Stephie02]

I understand what you are saying and why but the Philippines is a Catholic country with no laws whatsoever to give the same rights to trans people as to everyone else. I don't really understand why they are so accepting.

My gf and I walk around all the time holding hands everywhere. No one cares. We go on buses and planes together. No one cares. Everyone addresses her as a woman and treats her that way. How are they able to put their religion aside and actually live the golden rule???

Evangelicalism maybe? Hey been a bit

 

[BillyWalrus]

Evangelicalism maybe? Hey been a bit

"Christians" talk the talk but they can't walk the walk. At least the Filipinos manage to live and let live.

 

[Stephie02]

"Christians" talk the talk but they can't walk the walk. At least the Filipinos manage to live and let live.

Agree with the first part, don't know about the 2nd

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

Evangelicalism maybe? Hey been a bit

Yeah with christianity and other religions there's sects of it which ignore 99 percent of the holy book in question and emphasize one or two lines about gay people and make it the worst crime in the world.

Or they say GOD MADE MAN AND WOMAN there can be no trans people.

And that's all they ever talk about so the brainless masses who never question authority nod and go, yes, this is what bothers god.

And then it attracts all the bigots who want to feel holy and saintly while having church and government support for their bigotry.

I don't have time for pea brained people like that.

 

[Stephie02]

Yeah with christianity and other religions there's sects of it which ignore 99 percent of the holy book in question and emphasize one or two lines about gay people and make it the worst crime in the world.

Or they say GOD MADE MAN AND WOMAN there can be no trans people.

And that's all the ever talk about so the brainless masses who never question authority nod and go, yes, this is what bothers god.

And then it attracts all the bigots who want to feel holy and saintly while having church and government support for their bigotry.

I don't have time for pea brained people like that.

Both harder and easier not being raised in a religious house growing up but definitely glad now.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

Both harder and easier not being raised in a religious house growing up but definitely glad now.

I was raised christian and told all the stories, read the bible-

we were not church goers.

I always thought of myself as lawful/good so to speak and thought about becoming a priest, around 19 or so.

So, I began studying my Bibles in earnest-

Bibles. Because I wasn't part of a church, so the first question was, what denomination.

What version of the Bible.

Who had the right version of christianity?

Assume there is a correct version- with no starting bias, how would you determine which one is the correct one?

Who has the right bible and beliefs- I was taught this is the INFALLIBLE and UNALTERED word of God. So the Bible would therefore be always true and moral, if God is good.

So, I read Bibles and saw contradictions

Red flag, a perfect morally good God wouldn't contradict itself

I saw alterations between versions of the Bible

red flag, how do I know what is God's word and what is the opinion of some dipshit asshole human being who is modifying God's word, and therefore by definition, making it wrong and less moral?

I learned about the apocrypha and how the books of the bible were literally voted in as being true or not, by people.

Hundreds of years after the supposed events, and their qualifications were, they were religious leaders.

NOPE

None of that for me. So I just took everything as nonsense and turned to the Old Testament.

Which.... was the worst book I've ever read on close inspection.

This god is not good, he's really really stupid, doesn't understand history or geography or the shape of the world or the universe, is averse to period blood in women and doesn't know what diseases are, so this is obviously written by bronze age fucking idiots to emphasize the level of idiocy, and not the word of god.

Now, logically, if I make shit up, and then later, someone comes along and says, that's all true, and also, I rode a pony.

Is the story of the latter person true?

No, because they started with fiction and called it infallible god truth and then added more to the story.

You can't turn a fictional bit of nonsense into reality through addition.

So Judaism, and by extension, all of Christianity and all of Islam, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, every abrahamic faith, most of the world's religiosity, is just plain flat out false and they'd know that if they thought about it dispassionately.

They want it to be right and let that override the part of their brain that determines truth or logic or consistency or judges whether it can be true.

And I get it, I lived it for close to 20 years, but when I saw stuff that has to be lies, I realized, I've been told all my life this entire book is true and flawless.

Well, it's trivially easy to prove that it isn't, on like 99 percent of the pages, pick one at random, and I can describe why it is fictional.

It's especially easy to see once you realize, oh, it is fictional, and start looking for more examples of why it has to be.

Then, it's not one blemish, but as many mistakes as there are visible stars in the heavens above.

So, that whole notion can be tossed.

Looked into hinduism and taoism and buddhism and other religions and they're not better, there's easy things to pick out in each which are just unfounded claims which are not consistent with the truth.

But Buddhists haven't been trying to persecute me lately so I tend to leave them alone, and basically, as much as I dislike religions interfering with my life, I don't want governments interfering in the lives and rights of people, religious or not.

So sometimes I am defending religious people and their right to be wrong, and I hope they remember to not persecute me after that.

But it gets really hard to defend them these days, when many of them spend their entire life hating me.

I am being worn down pretty fast.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

I have read so many bibles, and so many holy books.

I wanted any of it to be true.

I really wanted it to be true.

But the falseness was too loud and too apparent. And then the immorality itself had no rational basis, so, it's gone from my mind.

Fictional stories supporting immoral ideas.

 

[Stephie02]

I have read so many bibles, and so many holy books.

I wanted any of it to be true.

I really wanted it to be true.

But the falseness was too loud and too apparent. And then the immorality itself had no rational basis, so, it's gone from my mind.

Fictional stories supporting immoral ideas.

Sound just like dad

 

[BillyWalrus]

Agree with the first part, don't know about the 2nd

I think I have been to the Philippines at least six times, maybe more. It's a Third World country for sure, but their attitudes towards LGBTQIA are light years ahead of ours.

 

[Cyberdog6x]

My first experience like most was with another guy, family friend from church, but I am not going to get into that. Shortly after I got a girlfriend and we had loads of fun. I did not circle back around to explore men until my late 30's. Being deployed and stuck in a hotel room for months away from home and lonely and met a guy online and started to explore again. It has been a fantastic experience and I would not trade it Although I can't see have a relationship with a man, I do have a few FWB's that I get with when we can.

 

[Tafluma]

I thought this was a question about how we became bisexual. But I guess I’m wrong.

 

[liqueur]

I thought this was a question about how we became bisexual. But I guess I’m wrong.

If was. It wandered. It'll wander back again. You can help with that— what's your first bi story?

 

[dodgeboy2]

I do. I’d suck a few times a day if I could.

If I thought my wife would let me I'd have them lined up at the door awaiting their turn

 

[bromorob79]

I started fooling around with my male best friend about 10 years ago. I wrote a series of stories about it on here. I still consider myself straight because I'm not interested in men in any other context, but I think most people would call me bi.

 

[Oshkosh60]

Yeah, never interested in men in a romantic sense either. and was a bit homophobic when young...... it was a different time. And lots of men hit on me but I ignored them...... until an older man, when I was thirty, sucked my cock and wow. I still thought of myself as straight.... but let another four dozen suck me over the years. I recently have thought to return the favor ...... if I find the right guy.

 

[remypare]

My first experience with a man was with my best friend when I was a teen. I didn't think much about a label at the time, but I did realize I liked cock. He and I masturbated together a lot and progressed to touching, stroking, and sucking each other as well. I've been with many men over the years, but my long-term relationships have always been with women.

This is pretty much how it was for me too. A friend and I started masturbating together, then got into oral. But I've never had a 'relationship' with a man in the same way as with a woman.

 

[SCRob95060]

I had a very kinky girlfriend, we had threesomes with a couple of girls, then she asked about a threesome with a guy.

I was very nervous about it but I agreed because I didn’t want to risk losing her if I said no.

So there I was naked with another naked guy, he’s fucking her doggystyle and I’m getting a blowjob.

Fast forward and I’m watching her suck his cock when she takes it out of her mouth and smiled slyly at me…

 

[tristantrotsky]

Both harder and easier not being raised in a religious house growing up but definitely glad now.

You don't 'become' bi-sexual... you just follow your natural instincts...

 

[liqueur]

Fast forward and I’m watching her suck his cock when she takes it out of her mouth and smiled slyly at me…

And the rest is history

 

[liqueur]

I have read so many bibles, and so many holy books.

I wanted any of it to be true.

I really wanted it to be true.

But the falseness was too loud and too apparent. And then the immorality itself had no rational basis, so, it's gone from my mind.

Fictional stories supporting immoral ideas.

“Sodomy”
Sodom and Gomorra are a great example. First god burns down two whole cities and everyone in them— men, women, and children— because of the sins of a small group of men. Then, all excited by this death and destruction, he kills Lot’s wife because she has a moment's hesitation, probably horrified by what god has just done. Then Lot goes and hides in a cave, gets drunk, and fucks both his daughters. (And later blames it on them. Because history is written by the men, right?)

Those are the family values that Christianity is built on.

 

[Britva415]

You don't 'become' bi-sexual... you just follow your natural instincts...

I feel like the question might have been intended more like "tell us about your first time"

 

[Jessica616]

When I was in college I was hiking and ran into this older guy. We chatted for a few minutes and then he grabbed my balls and asked he could suck me off. I froze, didn't really know what to do, so I said yes. He then pulled my shorts done and sucked me off. I know this was something I wanted to do more. Years later I learned that this must had been a cruising location. No idea at the time.