Illinois bans sales and possession of semi-automatic firearms

[Rightguide]

I was just giving #186 the definition of militia and that there is no restriction on armament to include nuclear. I fully agree with how the high court defines the 2nd amendment. I also agree to states rights on what restrictions state legislator impose on their citizens. What I disagree with is a federal ban on AR-15 style weapons, leave that to the states, not to say feds don't play a role such as special permitting for fully automatic weapons and other devices ( hand grenades, laws ect. )

The SCOTUS has already held that bans on guns in common use are unconstitutional. Prior to the NFA fully automatic firearms were legal in the US. The NFA itself might be unconstitutional under the latest SCOTUS rulings in Bruen, as subsequent holdings supporting its legality since 1934 were not arrived at using the criteria the SCOTUS determined for 2A findings in Bruen, that being text as informed by history and tradition since 1791.

 

[Rightguide]

I'm a firm believer that people votes these schmucks in they get what they deserve, that's democracy. Ironic that some of these states and cities have the strictest gun laws on the books and the problem still exist. The laws are comprehensive the enforcement isn't.

My only point was that states of the union cannot write unconstitutional laws no matter how leftist they are. As soon as that happens there is no union.

 

[oggbashan]

My only point was that states of the union cannot write unconstitutional laws no matter how leftist they are. As soon as that happens there is no union.

Or HOW rightist there are.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

So, what is your point to my statement? The largest army at the time of our founding as armed with weaponry only capable of firing one round at a time. The same technology was left in the hands of the American people by the Founders under the Second Amendment.

You said, "the most powerful army on Earth."

that's objectively incorrect.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You said, "the most powerful army on Earth."

that's objectively incorrect.

"wrongway" posts a lot of incorrect shit,

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

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New Gun Research Center Funded by Firearms Executives Aims to Diversify Debate​

University of Wyoming initiative reignites discussion of bias in the field of study​

“The University of Wyoming’s law school has launched a new center for gun research funded in part by executives from the firearms industry, which its founders say will bring new viewpoints to the field of study.

“They said they hope to research issues including how to prevent suicides involving firearms, and to hold symposia on gun-policy issues that include people such as hunters, members of the military and law-enforcement officers.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-gu...versify-debate-11674953998?mod=hp_featst_pos3

 

[phrodeau]

The only way to stop a suicide with a gun is someone with a bigger gun.

 

[ll74]

The only way to stop a suicide with a gun is someone with a bigger gun.

A bigger suicide with a bigger gun.

A bigger suicide of a bigger person with a bigger gun.

 

[Rightguide]

Or HOW rightist there are..

Freedom-loving patriots shoot down gun controls in Virginia:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/va...asures-after-recent-shootings-school-campuses

 

[oggbashan]

Freedom-loving patriots shoot down gun controls in Virginia:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/va...asures-after-recent-shootings-school-campuses

Freedom-loving patriots deny women the right to choose.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Freedom-loving patriots shoot down gun controls in Virginia:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/va...asures-after-recent-shootings-school-campuses

Freedumb loving idiots like wrongway post a lot of stupid.

 

[Rightguide]

Freedom-loving patriots deny women the right to choose.

Stop it!

 

[Rightguide]

Thought I'd make Butter's day:

Federal Judge Blocks New Jersey Law That Allows State To Sue Gun Manufacturers​

BRONSON WINSLOWCONTRIBUTOR
February 01, 2023

A federal judge ruled Tuesday to block a New Jersey law that allows the state’s attorney general to take legal action against gun manufacturers.

U.S. District Judge Zahid Nisar Quraishi, an appointee of President Joe Biden, granted a preliminary injunction against New Jersey’s “public nuisance” law Tuesday, saying is in “direct conflict” with the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA), according to the opinion in the United States District Court of New Jersey Trenton Vicinage. The “public nuisance” law allows the attorney general to seek legal action against gun manufacturers if it is deemed that they endangered public safety through sales or marketing practices.

The PLCAA, enacted in 2005, protects gun manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. The opinion was delivered in the NSSF v Platkin case and follows a Monday ruling by U.S. District Judge Reneé Marie Bumb, who placed a second temporary restraining order on portions of New Jersey’s concealed carry law.

“We think this is important because other states are currently considering public nuisance statues modeled on what New Jersey, New York, Delaware and California have done,” Lawrence Keane, a senior vice president for government and public affairs at the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) and plaintiff in the case, told Politico.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/02/01/...w-that-allows-state-to-sue-gun-manufacturers/

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Stop it!

Can't handle the truth? Nah, you can't handle shit....fucking chickenshit.

 

[oggbashan]

Can't handle the truth? Nah, you can't handle shit....fucking chickenshit.

No. He can't. He never could.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

No. He can't. He never could.

To me that's a pretty sad state of affairs. Living your life in such a "bubble of hate and stupidity". No surprise he's single, who would want to put up with "him" 24/7.....

 

[dkovic77]

Stop it!

Awww… look at that. All sad someone called you out?

Guessing it’s not their choice right? It’s all the man’s choice in all things.

But since you are always wrong….

 

[Rightguide]

Awww… look at that. All sad someone called you out?

Guessing it’s not their choice right? It’s all the man’s choice in all things.

But since you are always wrong….

He didn't call me out. He posted a comment that didn't have anything to do with what I posted, which is quite typical of the old curmudgeon suffering from Biden Syndrome.

I am rarely wrong. You on the other hand are a completely different story.

 

[oggbashan]

And you suffer from the Trump/Putin syndrome.

How can you defend right wingers who want to control bverything - it is against their interests in small govenment yet as far as women are concerned - they always know best. You can't have it both ways. Either you are for free markets and choice, or you are not.

iIf all women asserted their second amendment rights and shot every repiublican against freedom of choice? Would you complain?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I am rarely wrong correct. You on the other hand are a completely different story.

Fixed your post wrongway...and if you disagree, please tell me who won the 2020 presidential election, or what about what Horwitz and Durham found, or how about that red wave last November eh?

 

[Bray123]

For the purpose of a safe, long life we have the right to own this.

https://imgur.com/iYG6r96

 

[VinnyVeritas]

Do you have

And you suffer from the Trump/Putin syndrome.

How can you defend right wingers who want to control bverything - it is against their interests in small govenment yet as far as women are concerned - they always know best. You can't have it both ways. Either you are for free markets and choice, or you are not.

iIf all women asserted their second amendment rights and shot every repiublican against freedom of choice? Would you complain?

Do you have a list of right wingers who do that?

It would have to be the fetus shooting them to protect its life.
That was a supercilious statement. I now have a valid complaint.

 

[Rightguide]

Do you have

Do you have a list of right wingers who do that?

It would have to be the fetus shooting them to protect its life.
That was a supercilious statement. I now have a valid complaint.

everything to Ogg is probably his access to transgender surgery.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

everything to Ogg is probably his access to transgender surgery.

wrongways grasp on reality is getting very very thin....*chuckles*

 

[Rightguide]

Illinois Judge Issues Second Block on ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban​

By Caden Pearson
February 4, 2023Updated: February 4, 2023

An Illinois judge issued a second temporary restraining order on Thursday against a ban on so-called “assault weapons” and magazines that hold more than 12 rounds.

The lawsuit (pdf), filed by 1,690 plaintiffs against Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D-Ill.) in January, argued that the Protect Illinois Communities Act (HB 5471) violated multiple clauses in the Illinois Constitution, including the single subject rule, three readings clause, due process clause, and equal protection clause.


White County Resident Circuit Judge T. Scott Webb dismissed the first three allegations but ruled in favor of the plaintiffs on the fourth claim, the violation of the equal protection clause. Webb noted that since there is no legislative history for the court to review regarding how the legislature chose who to exempt from the ban, “this Court finds that the Act fails to meet the standard.”

“To this end, this Court finds that the Plaintiffs have established a protectable right and are likely to succeed on the merits,” he wrote in his ruling (pdf).

https://www.theepochtimes.com/illin...utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=BonginoReport