matt gaetz v mccarthy... is gaetz about to see the boot up his jaxi?

[ll74]

I guess my idea is as idiotic as Jeffries working with moderate republicans to make Jeffries the speaker.

I've seen that floated around in jest.

It would def be an easy vote though...for Democrats who will likely be throwing all their votes there anyway

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I guess my idea is as idiotic as Jeffries working with moderate republicans to make Jeffries the speaker.

I see this as a win for republicans. Unlike the party lemmings of the democratic party there are republicans out there with enough courage to stand on principle. The party line is not acceptable. Need to find a viable speaker that has the balls to stand on principle who will say what all republicans believe in their heart. Control spending, fix the border, shitcan the green energy nut bags, cut the debt.

I think the republican party will come back stronger and more united on conservative values.

Make up your fucking mind. You're as bad at twisting in the wind as McCarthy was.....

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1709358957276410137

working together? bwahahaha...yeah, riiiight.

 

[Rotadom]

If Democrats were smart they would have crossed the line and voted to keep McCarthy.

A stalling only to give in to the opposition while almost shutting down the government only to get fired isn't the type of person we representing us.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1709387737642438687

 

[skyaura]

Why? WTF did McCarthy do for them? Open an impeachment inquiry on Biden? Yah that's going to go a long way towards bi-partisan cooperation.

You're a total fucking idiot if you think the Democrats need to help out the "majority". Let the majority show the American people they can govern. Right now all they are looking like is a bunch of fucking clowns in suits.

PS I just thought of this, but if Pelosi did, what the fuck would say about her helping him out. After all the vitriol that has been posted by you, against her over the years....and you'd have to eat all those posts, and say "thank you". That would almost be worth it...*chuckles*

You can't be surprised by that though. Not when the Democrats had two impeachment trials against Trump. Same thing happened when Harry Reid used the Nuclear Option and was warned by Republicans, Democrats would not hold the majority in the Senate forever and they would return the favor. When the Republicans gained control of the Senate, McConnell used the Nuclear Option to get judges confirmed. Of course Democrats protested, but if there is one thing I know having worked in DC, there is always a tit for tat.

 

[skyaura]

I've seen that floated around in jest.

It would def be an easy vote though...for Democrats who will likely be throwing all their votes there anyway

Yeah, that isn't happening. No way a Republican is voting for Jeffries. He is not at all trusted by Republicans. But, Jeffries is shrewd and he was in no way going to throw a lifeline to McCarthy and was quite content to allow Gaetz to do what he does best: Be an arsonist with no real plan how to rebuild. The vast majority of Republicans in the House hope Gaetz is challenged and loses his Primary. Absent that, I think he will be expelled, especially if the Ethics investigation goes against him.

At that point, Gaetz would have proven to be a useful idiot for Jeffries. Recent polling has shown that on issues such as the economy, immigration, etc, the winds are favorable to the Republicans, which would suggest flipping the Senate and gaining more seats in the House. However, if this carries on to long in finding a Speaker, Jeffries will use that to try to sway voters by effectively saying the Republicans can't even get their house in order, do you really think they can govern a Nation.

A conspiracy theorist might conclude that Gaetz is a mole for the Democrats.

 

[YDB95]

I guess my idea is as idiotic as Jeffries working with moderate republicans to make Jeffries the speaker.

I don't think I'd call it idiotic. Jeffries would only need to attract four Republicans, and there are over a dozen who come from districts Biden carried. It would make them unpopular among their GOP colleagues, but if the choice is between that and losing re-election? Not that I expect it to happen, but it's not that farfetched. Especially since none of the Republicans actually seems to want the job.

 

[Bn2f]

Yeah, that isn't happening. No way a Republican is voting for Jeffries. He is not at all trusted by Republicans. But, Jeffries is shrewd and he was in no way going to throw a lifeline to McCarthy and was quite content to allow Gaetz to do what he does best: Be an arsonist with no real plan how to rebuild. The vast majority of Republicans in the House hope Gaetz is challenged and loses his Primary. Absent that, I think he will be expelled, especially if the Ethics investigation goes against him.

At that point, Gaetz would have proven to be a useful idiot for Jeffries. Recent polling has shown that on issues such as the economy, immigration, etc, the winds are favorable to the Republicans, which would suggest flipping the Senate and gaining more seats in the House. However, if this carries on to long in finding a Speaker, Jeffries will use that to try to sway voters by effectively saying the Republicans can't even get their house in order, do you really think they can govern a Nation.

A conspiracy theorist might conclude that Gaetz is a mole for the Democrats.

Sky. Hello. Welcome to the board! These two posts here are thoughtful and well written opinions giving us all a new and unique perspective and I thank you for sharing, but this place is horrible enough as is - can’t we just skip the long winded BS and get straight to your ending goal of rank false equivalency?

 

[icanhelp1]

I don't think I'd call it idiotic. Jeffries would only need to attract four Republicans, and there are over a dozen who come from districts Biden carried. It would make them unpopular among their GOP colleagues, but if the choice is between that and losing re-election? Not that I expect it to happen, but it's not that farfetched. Especially since none of the Republicans actually seems to want the job.

The ousting of McCarthy is not for failure of working with democrats, just the opposite in my opinion. The gang of eight are standing strong on conservative values that I believe every republican believes in but too cowardly to outwardly support. The eight are tired of the same old same old. This line in the sand is a sea change on how to conduct regular order. I believe there are more more republicans behind the scenes that are in support of what Gaetz’s was stumping. I believe the straw that broke the camel’s back was not starting back in February to bring those appropriation bills up front, deliberated and voted on. The new gang of eight are taking a stand against governing by huge omnibus bills which always increases spending. Governing by continuing resolutions plays into the hands of democrats spendthrifts, playing small ball with democrats. Matt Gaetz is just parroting what many republicans behind the scenes truly believe. The new gang of eight are not extreme right wing MAGA. Bringing spending down to pre Covid levels, securing our border, inflation, lowering gas prices, cleaning house in the DOJ , crime in the streets, on time appropriation bills, term limits…* appear * to lit democrats as far right because the progressive democratic party has shifted so far left. Today’s Democratic Party resembles the Roosevelt days, uniparty tyranny. IMHO

I’m no fan of Matt Gaetz, there were seven other pubs that stood in solidarity, it appears the Republican Party is in total destruct mode but I believe a stronger Republican Party will result from all this turmoil.

I also believe McCarthy was caught between a rock an hard place, McCarthy relied on Pelosi for backing, are you kidding me? Rhino Republican senators have dirty hands making it nearly impossible for house republicans to push bills forward.

 

[Dribble]

Some people should educate themselves...instead of posting here. But they won't. Perfect example of why the Republican Party is such a mess

 

[icanhelp1]

so mcHenry is speaker pro-tempore

seems that, according to House rules, the elected speaker has to supply a list of names to act as pro-tempore 'in case', and mchenry's name was top of the list

he has the power to continue performing the speaker's role till a new one is chosen: is he limited to just presiding over the selection or can he move the House forward with anything else?

He sits in the chair, that’s basically it. The last seven appropriations bills are in limbo till a new speaker is appointed.

 

[zipman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1709358957276410137

working together? bwahahaha...yeah, riiiight.

Now that was a stupid first move.

 

[Bn2f]

The ousting of McCarthy is not for failure of working with democrats, just the opposite in my opinion. The gang of eight are standing strong on conservative values that I believe every republican believes in but too cowardly to outwardly support. The eight are tired of the same old same old. This line in the sand is a sea change on how to conduct regular order. I believe there are more more republicans behind the scenes that are in support of what Gaetz’s was stumping. I believe the straw that broke the camel’s back was not starting back in February to bring those appropriation bills up front, deliberated and voted on. The new gang of eight are taking a stand against governing by huge omnibus bills which always increases spending. Governing by continuing resolutions plays into the hands of democrats spendthrifts, playing small ball with democrats. Matt Gaetz is just parroting what many republicans behind the scenes truly believe. The new gang of eight are not extreme right wing MAGA. Bringing spending down to pre Covid levels, securing our border, inflation, lowering gas prices, cleaning house in the DOJ , crime in the streets, on time appropriation bills, term limits…* appear * to lit democrats as far right because the progressive democratic party has shifted so far left. Today’s Democratic Party resembles the Roosevelt days, uniparty tyranny. IMHO

I’m no fan of Matt Gaetz, there were seven other pubs that stood in solidarity, it appears the Republican Party is in total destruct mode but I believe a stronger Republican Party will result from all this turmoil.

I also believe McCarthy was caught between a rock an hard place, McCarthy relied on Pelosi for backing, are you kidding me? Rhino Republican senators have dirty hands making it nearly impossible for house republicans to push bills forward.

Too many points of clarification. Too many questions. Too many misinformed conclusions. Sir, I worry about you and your day to day dealings. It’s flush a toilet, turn a knob. Ok?

 

[adrina]

You can't be surprised by that though. Not when the Democrats had two impeachment trials against Trump. Same thing happened when Harry Reid used the Nuclear Option and was warned by Republicans, Democrats would not hold the majority in the Senate forever and they would return the favor. When the Republicans gained control of the Senate, McConnell used the Nuclear Option to get judges confirmed. Of course Democrats protested, but if there is one thing I know having worked in DC, there is always a tit for tat.

If you want to go that route then we have to acknowledge what happened leading up to those events. Trump's actions led to his impeachment. Just like criminals' actions leads to their arrests and trials. For Reid, the Republicans were running an active blockade against all nominations holding up the business of government while actively seeking to legislate from the bench by placing conservative judges. (Ironically they succeeded under Trump with McConnell's help.)

 

[adrina]

The so-called gang of eight don't even know the mechanisms of governance. Any and all discussion about them has to start at that point. Then one needs to truly look at their motivations. If they really cared about governance, then they would actually be governing. They don't, they aren't.

 

[ll74]

The so-called gang of eight don't even know the mechanisms of governance. Any and all discussion about them has to start at that point. Then one needs to truly look at their motivations. If they really cared about governance, then they would actually be governing. They don't, they aren't.

But hey, they raised a ton of money during the vote

 

[adrina]

But hey, they raised a ton of money during the vote

And put out sound bytes in their attempts to own those dastardly libs.

 

[coati]

If Democrats were smart they would have crossed the line and voted to keep McCarthy.

You are neglecting the fact that the Republican Party was torn apart by your cult leader. And to now say that this severely fractured Party will unify is naive and absurd.

A party that is torn apart by civil war cannot sustainably agree upon a Speaker and govern. Fix the extreme conflict caused by your greedy and divisive demagogue and get back with us.

As for your long laundry list of everything that's wrong with America, look inward to the same degree that you focus on Democrats.

 

[Dribble]

I keep telling people...you can't expect a broken system to fix itself by using that broken system.

In 42 days...the Govt will close and they will default on their loans. Great plan. Both Parties have fucked this up. And that fact will fall on deaf ears

 

[ll74]

You should vote third party to fix everything

Better yet....don't vote. Obviously that is the solution

 

[Dribble]

You should vote third party to fix everything

Better yet....don't vote. Obviously that is the solution

There are better solutions. But you be too dumb to recognize any

 

[jaF0]

Hark! A twist!!

Republicans Already Barred Trump From Being Speaker of the House​

Republican Conference rules block anyone who has been indicted for a charge with a sentence of two or more years from House leadership.

 

[Rotadom]

Republicans Already Barred Trump From Being Speaker of the House

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-already-barred-trump-being-speaker-house-1832014?amp=1

Of course, MTG has already said that trump is the only Speaker she'd support.

At least three GOP House members—Texas Rep. Troy Nehls, Florida's Greg Steube and Georgia's Marjorie Taylor Greene—have already indicated that they will support the former president in voting to select a new House Speaker.

"This week, when the U.S. House of Representatives reconvenes, my first order of business will be to nominate Donald J. Trump for Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives," Nehls said in a statement. "President Trump, the greatest President of my lifetime, has a proven record of putting America First and will make the House great again."

 

[Bn2f]

You are neglecting the fact that the Republican Party was torn apart by your cult leader. And to now say that this severely fractured Party will unify is naive and absurd.

A party that is torn apart by civil war cannot sustainably agree upon a Speaker and govern. Fix the extreme conflict caused by your greedy and divisive demagogue and get back with us.

As for your long laundry list of everything that's wrong with America, look inward to the same degree that you focus on Democrats.

FYI - icanhelp1:
First off I don’t align with the republican Party, I have almost as much disdain for republican politicians as I have for democrats.