matt gaetz v mccarthy... is gaetz about to see the boot up his jaxi?

There are 435 members in the House of Representatives. Eight...are the ones creating chaos by not working with THEIR Party leadership.

Let's do some math

8/435= 1.8%

So 1.8% can disrupt an entire Chamber

Tell me again the system isn't broken
 
There are 435 members in the House of Representatives. Eight...are the ones creating chaos by not working with THEIR Party leadership.

Let's do some math

8/435= 1.8%
Dribble is voting for Gaetz because of his hair
 
You can't be surprised by that though.
I'm not surprised.
Not when the Democrats had two impeachment trials against Trump.
Lets recall there was lots of evidence out there. Witnesses were not saying, "I have no evidence of"
Same thing happened when Harry Reid used the Nuclear Option and was warned by Republicans, Democrats would not hold the majority in the Senate forever and they would return the favor.
Yep lots of tit for tat, so for ican't to offer up the logic of either party co-operating was beyond stupid.
When the Republicans gained control of the Senate, McConnell used the Nuclear Option to get judges confirmed. Of course Democrats protested, but if there is one thing I know having worked in DC, there is always a tit for tat.
Agreed, but for the government to function, they need to get back ( not sure what the path would be) to both side learning to work together where it makes sense.
 
There are 435 members in the House of Representatives. Eight...are the ones creating chaos by not working with THEIR Party leadership.

Let's do some math

8/435= 1.8%

So 1.8% can disrupt an entire Chamber

Tell me again the system isn't broken
That’s possible because we have a two-party system that’s at or near parity. Once the GOP splits and/or gets marginalized, the chaos chaps won’t have that power.
 
I'm not surprised.

Lets recall there was lots of evidence out there. Witnesses were not saying, "I have no evidence of"

Yep lots of tit for tat, so for ican't to offer up the logic of either party co-operating was beyond stupid.

Agreed, but for the government to function, they need to get back ( not sure what the path would be) to both side learning to work together where it makes sense.
You just don’t get it. This isn’t only about both parties working together. Republicans talk out of both sides of their mouths. They can rail against Gaetz, that is just a symptom of what ails the Republican Party. Leadership is the real problem. Most republicans agree Gaetz is a self serving POS but what he exposed has merit. They had several months ( since January ) to put together all 12 appropriations bills and work on passing them, 7 bills still required intense legislation and republicans took 6 weeks off knowing full well Sep 30 deadline was around the corner. All republican house members are guilty of leaving knowing full well there was a bucket load of work to be done. That reason is why I can’t get behind the majority of the Republican Party. They should’ve backed McCarthy agains the wall and insisted to continue working on the appropriations bills. The debt ceiling was a big issue which because of poor leadership backed republicans into a corner accepting 200 billion in additional spending to avoid a government shutdown. Failure to use the power of congressional purse strings to defund the DOJ and the DHS till the border is secured and the DOJ begins following the rule of law.
 
You just don’t get it.
I don't get what? That Republicans can't govern????
This isn’t only about both parties working together. Republicans talk out of both sides of their mouths. They can rail against Gaetz, that is just a symptom of what ails the Republican Party. Leadership is the real problem.
No shit, and who's the leader? Trump? He's the fucking problem, he's enabling the wacko's like Gaetz. He's the one who drives out the "voters" who support those wacko's. It's his influence on the weak minded people who want simple answers to complicated problems, that allows people like Gaetz to get elected in the first place.
Failure to use the power of congressional purse strings to defund the DOJ and the DHS till the border is secured and the DOJ begins following the rule of law.
Yah right, Mr "I don't carry water for Trump".
 
That’s possible because we have a two-party system that’s at or near parity. Once the GOP splits and/or gets marginalized, the chaos chaps won’t have that power.
No...it is possible when a Party's leadership is so weak they can't control their extreme fringe.

They are not going to split. They will join forces behind someone worse
 
Defund the police - mocked as anti American and crazy, yet, “Icanhelp1: Failure to use the power of congressional purse strings to defund the DOJ and the DHS till the border is secured and the DOJ begins following the rule of law,” is said regularly by the right as a legitimate solution and no one bats an eye.
 
Wow. Who knew government doesn't function when folks don't participate. Almost like voters....
 
Wow. Who knew government doesn't function when folks don't participate. Almost like voters....
Try again. It functioned just as expected without any Party leading. Where is Gaetz from? What State does he belong to? Could it be....your home State? Maybe you should focus on fixing your State?
 
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Defund the police - mocked as anti American and crazy, yet, “Icanhelp1: Failure to use the power of congressional purse strings to defund the DOJ and the DHS till the border is secured and the DOJ begins following the rule of law,” is said regularly by the right as a legitimate solution and no one bats an eye.
The democrats are not on the receiving end of DOJ‘s selective prosecutions, indictments.

Sanctuary cities are starting to feel the effects of Biden’s dumbass ass immigration policy. DHS is not working for the benefit and protection of the American people. Mayorkas is a traitor along with Biden.

Mayor Adams went to the border and now is heading for Mexico City and the Darien gap. Adams needs to strap on a pair of balls and go see Biden. Gov Hochul needs to call out Biden personally and not play word games.
 
Try again. It functioned just as expected without any Party leading. Where is Gaetz from? What State does he belong to? Could it be....your home State? Maybe you should focus on fixing your State?

You first, Mr Kentucky Statistics.

It's beyond stupid that you're blaming the members of both parties for botching the government but don't hold the American non-voters responsible.

Such a fucking moron.
 
You first, Mr Kentucky Statistics.

It's beyond stupid that you're blaming the members of both parties for botching the government but don't hold the American non-voters responsible.

Such a fucking moron.
The reason Congress fails is a result of both Parties. Your denial of that doesn't change anything. Need proof?

What is the Democrats plan for this? Blame Republicans? Now comes the fun part...how will Republicans unify their Party? Because they will. Who will they choose to lead? Has the Democrats thought about this?

Here...let me toss a name out there for you. The #2 of their Party says he won't run. The #3 of their Party says he won't run. Who will? Do you think the far Right Wing will unify behind a Moderate Republican?Nope. So that means the Moderate Republicans will be forced to embrace a radical. Like Jordan.

Stupid people never think things through
 
The reason Congress fails is a result of both Parties. Your denial of that doesn't change anything. Need proof?

What is the Democrats plan for this? Blame Republicans? Now comes the fun part...how will Republicans unify their Party? Because they will. Who will they choose to lead? Has the Democrats thought about this?

Here...let me toss a name out there for you. The #2 of their Party says he won't run. The #3 of their Party says he won't run. Who will? Do you think the far Right Wing will unify behind a Moderate Republican?Nope. So that means the Moderate Republicans will be forced to embrace a radical. Like Jordan.

Stupid people never think things through

JFC. You're as bad as any republican at ascription.

The house doesn't function because the American people are asleep at the switch. The house is in the condition it is because most Americans can't be fucked to be anything more than lazy or non voters.

You're right. You don't think things through.
 
If a Party has a platform worthy of bringing in new voters...they will be there. Offering the same shit isn't gonna change anything. Watch and learn. Don't come crying to me...or this website...when the choices of my Party comes back and bites
 
JFC. You're as bad as any republican at ascription.

The house doesn't function because the American people are asleep at the switch. The house is in the condition it is because most Americans can't be fucked to be anything more than lazy or non voters.

You're right. You don't think things through.
The House doesn't function because this is the new Norm. Have a Party not playing games...you won't have the dysfunction
 
Rand Paul, Jimmy Comer, Thom Massie, The Turtle ....
Yep. And who is our Governor? In a State that is largely composed of Republicans? Think....before you play Mr. Mod that refuses to allow people to ignore him. No different than Gaetz
 
The House doesn't function because this is the new Norm. Have a Party not playing games...you won't have the dysfunction

Have a populace where more than 1 in 8 people always vote and you won't have a party playing games.

There's that not thinking things through.
 
Have a populace where more than 1 in 8 people always vote and you won't have a party playing games.

There's that not thinking things through.
As I said...and you refuse to accept...increasing the ranks increases the ranks in both Parties. This is why no Party invests money to increase voter turnout. The key....is to increase one side...but not the other. That means...offer them something that means something to them. Being a Party that isn't Republicans isn't gonna win seats. Look at the Demographics
 
JFC.

Case in point.

It's so goddamn basic even wikipedia gets it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Kentucky_gubernatorial_election

Unusually high turnout was seen as a major factor in Beshear's win.[7]

https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article236988299.html

Voter turnout tops 42 percent in tight race for Kentucky governor​


A measly 42% was record turnout. And yet it was enough to tip the scales in his favor. Even if only by less than 1%. I wonder what the total would have been if the other 58% would have bothered to have shown up.
 
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