Meeting Master for the first time?

[HottieMama]

I'm only recovering b/c Master doesn't allow me to continue my eating disorder behavior...without Him I'd still be sick...but if He'll allow me to use an enema then hell yeah I'm gonna take the chance. I'm not allowed to use laxatives in any form...not even fiber suppliments...it sucks

This guy is fucking sorry excuse for a fucking Master. The minute i told my PYL about my ED behaviors...enemas went on the hard limit list. UGH... Seriously, WHY is he allowing something that is going to further your disease? He is HELPING to keep you sick..not making you well.

Again, you aren't recovering...

 

[doll_parts85]

This guy is fucking sorry excuse for a fucking Master. The minute i told my PYL about my ED behaviors...enemas went on the hard limit list. UGH... Seriously, WHY is he allowing something that is going to further your disease? He is HELPING to keep you sick..not making you well.

Again, you aren't recovering...

I'm eating 1200-1500 calories a day, not purging or taking laxatives or diuretics...

 

[Etoile]

I'm eating 1200-1500 calories a day, not purging or taking laxatives or diuretics...

That's not recovery, that's following the rules. Recovery has to come from within. Nobody can force you to recover. You said yourself that you would still be doing it if he didn't stop you. Therefore, you're not recovering, you're just unwillingly following the rules. You are recovered when you no longer want to do those behaviors.

I'm certain your therapist, whom you like so much, would agree.

 

[doll_parts85]

That's not recovery, that's following the rules. Recovery has to come from within. Nobody can force you to recover. You said yourself that you would still be doing it if he didn't stop you. Therefore, you're not recovering, you're just unwillingly following the rules. You are recovered when you no longer want to do those behaviors.

I'm certain your therapist, whom you like so much, would agree.

that'll never happen...I don't think at least...

 

[myinnerslut]

i have avoided this thread thus far, but i just had to say a few things. assuming evrything is real and as you say

1- WHY OH WHY DO YOU NOT SEEM TO BE LISTENING TO ANYONE?!?!!?

2- recovering from an eating disorder is hard work. and while nobody is saying that its BAD that your eating a good amount of calories and not using any laxatives, please do not say you are in recovery. the way to recover is to want to recover, to put work into it, to get a support system, and to stick with your plan. just following your master's rules does not cut it if you are still looking for any chance to cheat and continue your destructive behavior. and it is destructive. how do i know? i went through five years of very serious eating disorders.

3- why are you on so much medicine at the same time? they are not meant to be used all at once. bieng bipolar is a difficult thing to work through. not being in control of your body or your mind or the way you think can be terrifying. i think it is a bad, horrible, horrendous idea to get involved with somebody, especially a long distance somebody who you dont know is is potentially harmful, while you are in this unstable state. it isnt your fualt that you are bipolar. but now that you know you are you have to want to get to a stable point and working with your therapist can and will help you. once more, how do i know this? im bipolar, diagnosed at age 11.

4- stop talking. stop responding. go back and read this thread from the begining. see all those people who were kind enough to offer up advice? stop alienating them, slow down and think about what they said. there is a reason your friend recommended you come here and ask your question, now slow down and listen to the answers we have provided instead of negating them at every turn.

 

[doll_parts85]

i have avoided this thread thus far, but i just had to say a few things. assuming evrything is real and as you say

1- WHY OH WHY DO YOU NOT SEEM TO BE LISTENING TO ANYONE?!?!!?

2- recovering from an eating disorder is hard work. and while nobody is saying that its BAD that your eating a good amount of calories and not using any laxatives, please do not say you are in recovery. the way to recover is to want to recover, to put work into it, to get a support system, and to stick with your plan. just following your master's rules does not cut it if you are still looking for any chance to cheat and continue your destructive behavior. and it is destructive. how do i know? i went through five years of very serious eating disorders.

3- why are you on so much medicine at the same time? they are not meant to be used all at once. bieng bipolar is a difficult thing to work through. not being in control of your body or your mind or the way you think can be terrifying. i think it is a bad, horrible, horrendous idea to get involved with somebody, especially a long distance somebody who you dont know is is potentially harmful, while you are in this unstable state. it isnt your fualt that you are bipolar. but now that you know you are you have to want to get to a stable point and working with your therapist can and will help you. once more, how do i know this? im bipolar, diagnosed at age 11.

4- stop talking. stop responding. go back and read this thread from the begining. see all those people who were kind enough to offer up advice? stop alienating them, slow down and think about what they said. there is a reason your friend recommended you come here and ask your question, now slow down and listen to the answers we have provided instead of negating them at every turn.

I've been bulimic for 10 years nearly half my life...its hard to think that I could ever eat and not want to throw up...it always crosses my mind...but at least I'm not doing it anymore....and I didn't say I was recovered. I said I'm recovering...big difference.

I don't know why I take so many medications, my doctor just keeps adding more >.< which makes me feel worse

 

[WriterDom]

does Gynodoc4u claim to be a real doctor?

 

[doll_parts85]

does Gynodoc4u claim to be a real doctor?

no...

 

[SweetGigi]

Ok, this needs to stop. We've all tried to prove to her all this isn't right and that none of this is good. She clearly isn't gonna heed our warnings and if she is allowed to follow thru on all this, something BAD is gonna happen. When it does, we all will feel the back lash; it will be made known that she was involved in a BDSM lifestyle and prejudgements will be made. We will all then be persecuted for 'our healthy choices' b/c of this one situation. Its gonna happen. She clearly isn't gonna take any responsibility to be safe and protect herself (or us) so we have to intervene.

I am gonna contact the mods and admins at collar me and alert them of *this* thread here. (I'm not even a member there) I will beseech them to read this whole thread and take some sort of action. At the very least they can pull his profile and possibly hers as well. As was just stated to me a moment ago (on AIM) "medical fantasies are one thing. seeking out sick people is another." I couldn't agree more. This girl is sick and he isn't gonna limit his 'desires' for her health. He only cares to indulge his fantasies and is clearly taking no concern for her well being. She is sick and so is he for his willingness to take advantage of her. Something has to be done to protect our way of life and ultimately save her.

This has to stop. If she isn't gonna do what she can to protect herself as well as us, then we have to do what we can instead; reporting this activity is how we start.

 

[doll_parts85]

Ok, this needs to stop. We've all tried to prove to her all this isn't right and that none of this is good. She clearly isn't gonna heed our warnings and if she is allowed to follow thru on all this, something BAD is gonna happen. When it does, we all will feel the back lash; it will be made known that she was involved in a BDSM lifestyle and prejudgements will be made. We will all then be persecuted for 'our healthy choices' b/c of this one situation. Its gonna happen. She clearly isn't gonna take any responsibility to be safe and protect herself (or us) so we have to intervene.

I am gonna contact the mods and admins at collar me and alert them of *this* thread here. (I'm not even a member there) I will beseech them to read this whole thread and take some sort of action. At the very least they can pull his profile and possibly hers as well. As was just stated to me a moment ago (on AIM) "medical fantasies are one thing. seeking out sick people is another." I couldn't agree more. This girl is sick and he isn't gonna limit his 'desires' for her health. He only cares to indulge his fantasies and is clearly taking no concern for her well being. She is sick and so is he for his willingness to take advantage of her. Something has to be done to protect our way of life and ultimately save her.

This has to stop. If she isn't gonna do what she can to protect herself as well as us, then we have to do what we can instead; reporting this activity is how we start.

We haven't done anything wrong

 

[Etoile]

Ok, this needs to stop. We've all tried to prove to her all this isn't right and that none of this is good. She clearly isn't gonna heed our warnings and if she is allowed to follow thru on all this, something BAD is gonna happen. When it does, we all will feel the back lash; it will be made known that she was involved in a BDSM lifestyle and prejudgements will be made. We will all then be persecuted for 'our healthy choices' b/c of this one situation. Its gonna happen. She clearly isn't gonna take any responsibility to be safe and protect herself (or us) so we have to intervene.

I am gonna contact the mods and admins at collar me and alert them of *this* thread here. (I'm not even a member there) I will beseech them to read this whole thread and take some sort of action. At the very least they can pull his profile and possibly hers as well. As was just stated to me a moment ago (on AIM) "medical fantasies are one thing. seeking out sick people is another." I couldn't agree more. This girl is sick and he isn't gonna limit his 'desires' for her health. He only cares to indulge his fantasies and is clearly taking no concern for her well being. She is sick and so is he for his willingness to take advantage of her. Something has to be done to protect our way of life and ultimately save her.

This has to stop. If she isn't gonna do what she can to protect herself as well as us, then we have to do what we can instead; reporting this activity is how we start.

I think that would be a big mistake. She's a legal adult, she can do whatever she wants. We have no business stepping in. To be perfectly honest, we could all be totally wrong. I considered contacting him through CollarMe, but that's not my business either. I strongly suspect that the CollarMe administrators are going to ignore this thread completely, because I would imagine their TOS states that they are not responsible for what goes on between people who meet on their site.

Sometimes you have to let people fuck up their lives. I don't think he's going to kill her. If I did, I might want to do something about it. But he's probably not going to kill her, and the rest of the responsibility is theirs. It's not our business to get involved between two consenting adults, even if one of them has admitted she's not capable of making good choices.

 

[doll_parts85]

Collarme is set up so you can find Doms/subs and meet...thats the whole point...

 

[SweetGigi]

No, you have. You are planning to meet with a man in an unsafe way and risk your health for momentary statisfaction. THAT IS WRONG!!!!!!! When the crap hits the fan, it will effect the rest of us and you aren't taking any foresight to that. Don't roll your eyes at me like I am the one doing something stupid. You are the one that refuses to see the forrest for the trees here.

Point blank:

You will be hurt in some way if you meet this man.

You could be killed and stuffed into a 55 gallon drum.

Your stupidity and actions will create a backlash we will all suffer from.

End of story. If you aren't gonna protect yourself, I will do what I can to protect the rest of us. You are sick and so is he.

 

[Etoile]

No, you have. You are planning to meet with a man in an unsafe way and risk your health for momentary statisfaction. THAT IS WRONG!!!!!!! When the crap hits the fan, it will effect the rest of us and you aren't taking any foresight to that. Don't roll your eyes at me like I am the one doing something stupid. You are the one that refuses to see the forrest for the trees here.

Point blank:

You will be hurt in some way if you meet this man.

You could be killed and stuffed into a 55 gallon drum.

Your stupidity and actions will create a backlash we will all suffer from.

End of story. If you aren't gonna protect yourself, I will do what I can to protect the rest of us. You are sick and so is he.

It's not your business, it's not my business, it's not Laurel's business, and it's not Literotica's business.

I don't WANT you to protect me.

And quite frankly, I'm not sure why you feel it's okay to say he's sick when you haven't even talked to the guy.

 

[WriterDom]

So doll_parts, what safety precautions are/have you taken? Have you been in communication with anyone who has ever met this guy? If he is involved in several local groups that shouldn't be hard to do.

 

[SweetGigi]

I think that would be a big mistake. She's a legal adult, she can do whatever she wants. We have no business stepping in. To be perfectly honest, we could all be totally wrong. I considered contacting him through CollarMe, but that's not my business either. I strongly suspect that the CollarMe administrators are going to ignore this thread completely, because I would imagine their TOS states that they are not responsible for what goes on between people who meet on their site.

Sometimes you have to let people fuck up their lives. I don't think he's going to kill her. If I did, I might want to do something about it. But he's probably not going to kill her, and the rest of the responsibility is theirs. It's not our business to get involved between two consenting adults, even if one of them has admitted she's not capable of making good choices.

::sighs:: I are probably right, ma'am. But I have to do what I can for my own mental welll being. This thread is haunting me. Even if I can't stop this, I want it well known that we did what we could to intervene. I know our very interaction on this thread will speak to that, but the people at collar me need to know what is happening at the very least IMHO.

Sometimes you have to let people fuck up their lives. You are right. But if it affect us in the midterm, I think we need to do something.

 

[SweetGigi]

....And quite frankly, I'm not sure why you feel it's okay to say he's sick when you haven't even talked to the guy.

I am in no way trying to upset you, ma'am or cause a fire storm with you. I deeply resepct you and your thoughts. I have read his profile (a friend posted it to me) He might not be 'sick' but his actions are sick if he is willingly and wanting to take advantage of her illnesses. This all scares me. It might not be my business (in a personal stance.) but we have to know that this isn't gonna end well and think about how it is gonna effect us when it all goes bad.

I am sorry if I have offended you ma'am. My respect runs deep for you.

 

[doll_parts85]

I am in no way trying to upset you, ma'am or cause a fire storm with you. I deeply resepct you and your thoughts. I have read his profile (a friend posted it to me) He might not be 'sick' but his actions are sick if he is willingly and wanting to take advantage of her illnesses. This all scares me. It might not be my business (in a personal stance.) but we have to know that this isn't gonna end well and think about how it is gonna effect us when it all goes bad.

I am sorry if I have offended you ma'am. My respect runs deep for you.

I'm perfectly fine to have a sexual relationship...my therapist knows and thinks its good for me...

 

[CutieMouse]

gigi- you are ALLOWING this to effect you. You are giving power to this situation, which really has nothing to do with you, outside of your choice to read words on a computer screen.

Every day, idiots do stupid things in the name of sex. Have you looked at craigslist lately? Dear. God. "Hook up" posts there make my entire damned generation look bad, and this situation look downright normal.

I'm with Etoile- I don't want someone off the internet deciding that I need protecting from my own decisions...

 

[SweetGigi]

I guess my thoughts are for the community at this point. I don't want us to be hurt for her actions. I understand where you ladies are coming from and respect you both. I am gonna step back for a while and calm down.

DP, you might be ok'd for a healthy sexual relationship, but I think its clear to all of us that what you are choosing is NOT healthy. You've even stated you've not told your therapist about the sexual 'parts' of this relationship; which speaks to me that they probably don't know the extent of how far all this is going.

I'm stepping back for a while... back into the unknown shadows. I never meant to come across this way. Like I said, my concern is now for us as a community.

I apologize for my offenses.

 

[doll_parts85]

I guess my thoughts are for the community at this point. I don't want us to be hurt for her actions. I understand where you ladies are coming from and respect you both. I am gonna step back for a while and calm down.

DP, you might be ok'd for a healthy sexual relationship, but I think its clear to all of us that what you are choosing is NOT healthy. You've even stated you've not told your therapist about the sexual 'parts' of this relationship; which speaks to me that they probably don't know the extent of how far all this is going.

I'm stepping back for a while... back into the unknown shadows. I never meant to come across this way. Like I said, my concern is now for us as a community.

I apologize for my offenses.

So what? My therapist doesn't need to know what I like to do in bed

 

[doll_parts85]

I'm done with this thread.

 

[CutieMouse]

So what? My therapist doesn't need to know what I like to do in bed

If you are involving yourself with fetisistic acts that are "no nos" for your recovery (such as someone with an eating disorder taking an enema?), then yes- your therapist should know, and give advice on the risks of that activity, as they relate to your personal recovery/situation.

I notice you ignored WD's inquiry about what you'd done to protect yourself, DP...

Our sexuality is a part of who we are, and sometimes therapists don't get a full picture to better assist us, without knowing everything.

Gigi, please don't feel you need to wander back into the shadows just because you feel equally passionate about this subject, from a different perspective. I know your concern is for how this situation might reflect on the "community", but IMO, it really doesn't reflect on the community at all. Those who feel kink is disgusting and sick will do so regardless, those who don't, won't. For every unsafe sitation someone can spout off about with regards to BDSM, I can list 2-3 that "vanilla" people do. *shrug*

 

[Etoile]

I am in no way trying to upset you, ma'am or cause a fire storm with you. I deeply resepct you and your thoughts. I have read his profile (a friend posted it to me) He might not be 'sick' but his actions are sick if he is willingly and wanting to take advantage of her illnesses. This all scares me. It might not be my business (in a personal stance.) but we have to know that this isn't gonna end well and think about how it is gonna effect us when it all goes bad.

I am sorry if I have offended you ma'am. My respect runs deep for you.

I appreciate your respect, though I agree with CM - neither dollparts nor the citizens of Literotica need to be watched out for. I really don't see how anything would come back to us at all, to be honest. I don't think there's any danger for us at all. So I'm just not sure why you're worried...perhaps you can explain it further.

Also, I'm not a ma'am. I'm a pyl, like you. I imagine it's habit for you, but for me it's kind of weird to see someone use PYL words with me.

 

[doll_parts85]

If you are involving yourself with fetisistic acts that are "no nos" for your recovery (such as someone with an eating disorder taking an enema?), then yes- your therapist should know, and give advice on the risks of that activity, as they relate to your personal recovery/situation.

I notice you ignored WD's inquiry about what you'd done to protect yourself, DP...

Our sexuality is a part of who we are, and sometimes therapists don't get a full picture to better assist us, without knowing everything.

Gigi, please don't feel you need to wander back into the shadows just because you feel equally passionate about this subject, from a different perspective. I know your concern is for how this situation might reflect on the "community", but IMO, it really doesn't reflect on the community at all. Those who feel kink is disgusting and sick will do so regardless, those who don't, won't. For every unsafe sitation someone can spout off about with regards to BDSM, I can list 2-3 that "vanilla" people do. *shrug*

protect myself from what?