Moment of Apocalypse or Epiphany?
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rosco rathbone said:
If I remember right, that idea is one of the core beliefs in Catholicism. Everything is written, but God in his mercy gave his children completely free will, or something like that. The idea always reminds me of Schrodinger's cat.
Catholicism is full of bizarre, mind-numbing contradictions like the trinity (I never thought the trinity bizarre or contradictory until I heard a very intelligent Jewish man go on and on for hours about the strangness of one being, even a god, being three different beings all at the same time, incluing his own father, and why would an already incoporeal and completly spiritual being need to make another part of him that was a holy ghost for pete's sake?) or "god is everywhere and sees everything" that you're just supposed to accept on faith and not think about too much or you'll find yourself going sort of loopy.
I apologize in advance if this gets artic-stranger going (
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TaintedB said:If I remember right, that idea is one of the core beliefs in Catholicism. Everything is written, but God in his mercy gave his children completely free will, or something like that. The idea always reminds me of Schrodinger's cat.
Catholicism is full of bizarre, mind-numbing contradictions like the trinity (I never thought the trinity bizarre or contradictory until I heard a very intelligent Jewish man go on and on for hours about the strangness of one being, even a god, being three different beings all at the same time, incluing his own father, and why would an already incoporeal and completly spiritual being need to make another part of him that was a holy ghost for pete's sake?) or "god is everywhere and sees everything" that you're just supposed to accept on faith and not think about too much or you'll find yourself going sort of loopy.
I apologize in advance if this gets artic-stranger going (
Actually it will not get me going. I dont claim to understand the trinity, so who am i to try to tell anyone else what to believe about it.
Besides, it is more than likely that my days in the parish are limited. Which is fine with me right now.
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MEPH: For when we hear one rack the name of God,
Abjure the Scriptures and his Saviour Christ,
We fly in hope to get his glorious soul;
Nor will we come, unless he use such means
Whereby he is in danger to be damn’d:
Therefore the shortest cut for conjuring
Is stoutly to abjure the Trinity,
And pray devoutly to the Prince of Hell.
-Christoper Marlowe Doctor Faustus
Abjure the Scriptures and his Saviour Christ,
We fly in hope to get his glorious soul;
Nor will we come, unless he use such means
Whereby he is in danger to be damn’d:
Therefore the shortest cut for conjuring
Is stoutly to abjure the Trinity,
And pray devoutly to the Prince of Hell.
-Christoper Marlowe Doctor Faustus
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It is about faith. The holy trinity is something that is not meant to be understood, it is something that we (catholics) accept without explaination. The answer is given when you meet your maker.TaintedB said:If I remember right, that idea is one of the core beliefs in Catholicism. Everything is written, but God in his mercy gave his children completely free will, or something like that. The idea always reminds me of Schrodinger's cat.
Catholicism is full of bizarre, mind-numbing contradictions like the trinity (I never thought the trinity bizarre or contradictory until I heard a very intelligent Jewish man go on and on for hours about the strangness of one being, even a god, being three different beings all at the same time, incluing his own father, and why would an already incoporeal and completly spiritual being need to make another part of him that was a holy ghost for pete's sake?) or "god is everywhere and sees everything" that you're just supposed to accept on faith and not think about too much or you'll find yourself going sort of loopy.
I apologize in advance if this gets artic-stranger going (
Last week was the feast of the holy trinity, and if you really were serious about wanting to understand, you can find tons of info online. 
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Kajira Callista said:It is about faith. The holy trinity is something that is not meant to be understood, it is something that we (catholics) accept without explaination. The answer is given when you meet your maker.
It IS about faith. And catholics are not the only ones who accept the Trinity's existence. I can't speak for all, but believers I know who read the Holy Bible - accept that the Trinity is part of a prophesy and exists because it is in God's Master Plan.
But as KC said, there is tons of information online to enlighten anyone who is interested.
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Esclava said:It IS about faith. And catholics are not the only ones who accept the Trinity's existence. I can't speak for all, but believers I know who read the Holy Bible - accept that the Trinity is part of a prophesy and exists because it is in God's Master Plan.
But as KC said, there is tons of information online to enlighten anyone who is interested.
Esclava
Ok, i do have to jump in on this one. The Trinity was hotly debated, and finally settled, more or less, in 325 at the Council of Nicea. Although you find the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit throughout the scriptures, you will be hard pressed to find a "doctrine" of the Trinity.
I just did a sermon on it, and i made these two points: a) the Trinity is a mystery, and reminds us that God is ultimately and always beyond our understanding, so dont trust anyone who claims to have the whole God Thing down pat and b) The Trinity reminds us that God is ultimately a series of relationships (Father needs the Son to be a Father, the Three in one are three separate personalities, who share a very complicated, but common relationship.)
And we are invited to join in that relationship. That is the Good News.
Oh, and at the Council of Nicea, for some reason they felt obligated to ban self castration.
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arctic-stranger said:
I prefer the Diet of Worms.
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rosco rathbone said:I prefer the Diet of Worms.
LOL! Someone like you is not supposed to know about kewl Catholic things like that! (Although, come to think of it I learned about it, not in ten years of parochial schooling, but from this Jewish guy).
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Taps
i could hear it played through an open window on warm summer nights growing up long ago. Those notes always seemed the right end for the evening. i can no longer bear to hear them played.
i could hear it played through an open window on warm summer nights growing up long ago. Those notes always seemed the right end for the evening. i can no longer bear to hear them played.
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Poor Woman
Imagine that you go out one night to a really nice bar with your friends and have a few cocktails.
They taste good, so you have a few more and then the DJ puts on 'I Will Survive,' so you're off on the dance floor.
After an hour or so, when 'Heart of Glass' has finished, and more modern music comes on, you come back to the group for a rest and another cocktail or three.
You notice a group of men standing nearby and one of them is looking at you. You look back at him and there is tangible chemistry between the two of you.
YOU buy him a drink.
He likes a woman who is not afraid to buy a man a drink. He approaches you to chat and the two of you get on really well.
When the time seems perfect for both of you, he leans over and kisses you.
You have never been kissed like this before, an electric kiss and a tingle shudders through your entire body and you don't want it to stop.
"I don't usually do this sort of thing," you hear yourself saying, "but I've never felt like this before. Do you want to come back to my place?"
You wake up the next morning, and you roll out of bed, half-asleep, to go to the toilet, last night's memories slightly blurred.
You look at yourself in the mirror make an "urgh" sound. .
As you're sitting there, vivid flashes of what would seem like a marathon sex session flicker back into your head and you remember that you fell in love last night.
With a smile on your face , you stand up and walk back to the bedroom and see ...
Imagine that you go out one night to a really nice bar with your friends and have a few cocktails.
They taste good, so you have a few more and then the DJ puts on 'I Will Survive,' so you're off on the dance floor.
After an hour or so, when 'Heart of Glass' has finished, and more modern music comes on, you come back to the group for a rest and another cocktail or three.
You notice a group of men standing nearby and one of them is looking at you. You look back at him and there is tangible chemistry between the two of you.
YOU buy him a drink.
He likes a woman who is not afraid to buy a man a drink. He approaches you to chat and the two of you get on really well.
When the time seems perfect for both of you, he leans over and kisses you.
You have never been kissed like this before, an electric kiss and a tingle shudders through your entire body and you don't want it to stop.
"I don't usually do this sort of thing," you hear yourself saying, "but I've never felt like this before. Do you want to come back to my place?"
You wake up the next morning, and you roll out of bed, half-asleep, to go to the toilet, last night's memories slightly blurred.
You look at yourself in the mirror make an "urgh" sound. .
As you're sitting there, vivid flashes of what would seem like a marathon sex session flicker back into your head and you remember that you fell in love last night.
With a smile on your face , you stand up and walk back to the bedroom and see ...
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Sorry stud. Thor's hammer appears across my chest, and over the belly. Those that have seen my back never understood the nekkid ape look from behind. If i face a woman while fucking her, i can torture her nips with the chest hair. If i spoon her afterwards, she feels content, warm, and safe. She wouldn't get the same torture, nor warmth spooning me instead.Marquis said:
On a side note, i remember someone calling hair (whether fine down on a woman, or thicker fur on a man) that passes over the navel and downward, under the waist band, a treasure trail. i guess that was nature's way of providing guidance to the blind, lost, or stupid.
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We three kings delivered the apocalypse to the jack of all trades.
i'm buying the cookies.
We three kings delivered the apocalypse to the jack of all trades.
i'm buying the cookies.
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Kajira Callista said:It is about faith. The holy trinity is something that is not meant to be understood, it is something that we (catholics) accept without explaination. The answer is given when you meet your maker.
"proof denies faith and without faith I am nothing" says God.
"Ah", says man," then the bable fish is a dead give away then isnt it? It proves you exist, therefore you dont. QED."
" oh" says God, " I didn't think of that".
and disappears in a puff of logic....
....Douglas Adams may have been joking but it is true to some extent.
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Many things make me pause and think albit not usually while in a dentist's chair where I have one foot on the floor at all times.
Lyrics have always held a special place in my artistic being and well AA these are particullarly thought provoking. I would be hard pressed to choose any particular lyrics to grace this thread with having somewhat of an intimate relationship with many. I hope it will surfice to say never stop listening...even when in the dentist's chair.
Lyrics have always held a special place in my artistic being and well AA these are particullarly thought provoking. I would be hard pressed to choose any particular lyrics to grace this thread with having somewhat of an intimate relationship with many. I hope it will surfice to say never stop listening...even when in the dentist's chair.
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Nice win, AA.
I am saving my place in this thread so I remember to come back when I am not exhausted to post a few of my own epiphany-inducing lyrics and incidents.
I am saving my place in this thread so I remember to come back when I am not exhausted to post a few of my own epiphany-inducing lyrics and incidents.
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Note to self
Do not go by the links again.
i don't give a shit what Nietzsche says, seeing that hole in the ground felt like a sabot in the chest, and what good is living without a heart.
Do not go by the links again.
i don't give a shit what Nietzsche says, seeing that hole in the ground felt like a sabot in the chest, and what good is living without a heart.
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Pacabel's Canon in D
A feather would have knocked me over without effort.
Perfect irony in your choice little one.
A feather would have knocked me over without effort.
Perfect irony in your choice little one.
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To those submissives who enjoy involvement with unattached Dominants, I commend you. IMHO, it is inhumane for a sub to experience what I did this weekend ... with no dominant to administer care in recovery. It is that care that reminds us why we do "this thing we do".
Moment of Apocalypse/Epiphany:
Spending the last 3 days alone - recovering from a satiating flogging and rough body contact experience at the hands of an unattached Dom - reminded me of why I left BDSM all those years ago and swore never to return. Such solitude is depressing for me ... but back then, I had my anger to drive and protect me.
Now, I have no such shield ... I cannot imagine a happy sub who can walk/sit/live for 3 days with such memories and no reinforcement for the desire to return. Not a HAPPY sub, anyway.
Esclava
Moment of Apocalypse/Epiphany:
Spending the last 3 days alone - recovering from a satiating flogging and rough body contact experience at the hands of an unattached Dom - reminded me of why I left BDSM all those years ago and swore never to return. Such solitude is depressing for me ... but back then, I had my anger to drive and protect me.
Now, I have no such shield ... I cannot imagine a happy sub who can walk/sit/live for 3 days with such memories and no reinforcement for the desire to return. Not a HAPPY sub, anyway.
Esclava
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Esclava said:To those submissives who enjoy involvement with unattached Dominants, I commend you. IMHO, it is inhumane for a sub to experience what I did this weekend ... with no dominant to administer care in recovery. It is that care that reminds us why we do "this thing we do".
Moment of Apocalypse/Epiphany:
Spending the last 3 days alone - recovering from a satiating flogging and rough body contact experience at the hands of an unattached Dom - reminded me of why I left BDSM all those years ago and swore never to return. Such solitude is depressing for me ... but back then, I had my anger to drive and protect me.
Now, I have no such shield ... I cannot imagine a happy sub who can walk/sit/live for 3 days with such memories and no reinforcement for the desire to return. Not a HAPPY sub, anyway.
Esclava
*HUGS*
My dear I am so sorry.
*HUGS and HUGS*
Fury
