Ok, very serious question.......

[DVS]

[laughs] I was just thinking the same damn thing! Didn't he say in the very beginning that he likes to be humiliated? Duh. I think we gave him exactly what he is craving. I will put it down to having a 'blonde moment'.

So...

What you're saying is because he enjoys humiliation, all of those bashing messages people posted may have been, um...exciting, and so his computer screen might now be covered with his disgusting cum?

And his comments about every submissive here being fat (which is not true, by the way) could have been his way of egging you on to make more of those bashing messages so he could wank off even more while reading those posts?

And maybe just the word troll could have been enough to take him over the edge, gracie. Shit, just now, I might have caused him a wee bit of stimulation by saying the word.

I think I'll go on record and just say...ew and yuck.

 

[graceanne]

[laughs] I was just thinking the same damn thing! Didn't he say in the very beginning that he likes to be humiliated? Duh. I think we gave him exactly what he is craving. I will put it down to having a 'blonde moment'.

Yeah, pretty much. If he'd sent it via PM, I'd have ignored him!

I'm a tad bit annoyed with myself now.

So...

What you're saying is because he enjoys humiliation, all of those bashing messages people posted may have been, um...exciting, and so his computer screen might now be covered with his disgusting cum?

And his comments about every submissive here being fat (which is not true, by the way) could have been his way of egging you on to make more of those bashing messages so he could wank off even more while reading those posts?

And maybe just the word troll could have been enough to take him over the edge, gracie. Shit, just now, I might have caused him a wee bit of stimulation by saying the word.

I think I'll go on record and just say...ew and yuck.

Yeah... pretty much.

 

[KoPilot]

Ok, so I had a duh moment.

troll+sub often = looking for insults as it helps get the trollsub off.

So, no more insults to the trollsub, he won't be getting his domination for free from me.

Oh goddammit, how didn't I see this?

 

[graceanne]

Oh goddammit, how didn't I see this?

How didn't WE see this?

I was wondering why he kept coming back, if we're so mean to him. Etc., etc.

Then I literally had a lightbulb moment. I'm pretty sure there was a light bulb over my head, like in a cartoon.

Ew.

 

[KoPilot]

How didn't WE see this?

I was wondering why he kept coming back, if we're so mean to him. Etc., etc.

Then I literally had a lightbulb moment. I'm pretty sure there was a light bulb over my head, like in a cartoon.

Ew.

Do any of us know what his email is? I want to send him an invoice.

 

[incubus'_sub]

oh bullshit. this question has been asked and answered over and over on this forum without the troll cry. he just unknowingly hit a nerve.

gracie, i guarantee that if you ate just bread and nothing else, but only to that carb limit, you would lose weight. you'd be vitamin, mineral and protein deficient but the weight would fall off. i'm not suggesting it in any way but please stop pretending that your body defies all nutritional logic. your body, like every other human body, cannot, over time, maintain fat if the calorie intake is severely reduced.

likewise, lilac, everybody has life issues and problems day to day. to excuse your weight issues as less important is well, just an excuse for lack of pride and respect for yourself.

condemn him as a cheater if that's what you believe but it's not a sin to be proud of building a business or keeping yourself in shape.

 

[blulilacgrl]

oh bullshit. this question has been asked and answered over and over on this forum without the troll cry. he just unknowingly hit a nerve.

gracie, i guarantee that if you ate just bread and nothing else, but only to that carb limit, you would lose weight. you'd be vitamin, mineral and protein deficient but the weight would fall off. i'm not suggesting it in any way but please stop pretending that your body defies all nutritional logic. your body, like every other human body, cannot, over time, maintain fat if the calorie intake is severely reduced.

likewise, lilac, everybody has life issues and problems day to day. to excuse your weight issues as less important is well, just an excuse for lack of pride and respect for yourself.

condemn him as a cheater if that's what you believe but it's not a sin to be proud of building a business or keeping yourself in shape.

Oh my God, Incubus you are so right. When my father was sick, I should have concentrated on my weight more. When my sister was diagnosed with cancer and then metastatic cancer I should have been more worried about my weight. As I was going through the process of burying a family member, should have been worried about my weight. When my kid had to go in for testing because of a tumor, I should have been concentrating on my weight. When I was busting my ass to get a degree I should have put that on a back burner and worried about my weight. When I was diagnosed with precancerous cells and facing the very real possibility of cervical cancer, my first and foremost thought should have been 'am I thin enough for some poor schmuck on an internet forum?'

You are totally right, I was just lacking pride and respect for myself. Thank you for the clearing that up. I will fix my priorities right now!

 

[Kellydude666]

Oh my God, Incubus you are so right. When my father was sick, I should have concentrated on my weight more. When my sister was diagnosed with cancer and then metastatic cancer I should have been more worried about my weight. As I was going through the process of burying a family member, should have been worried about my weight. When my kid had to go in for testing because of a tumor, I should have been concentrating on my weight. When I was busting my ass to get a degree I should have put that on a back burner and worried about my weight. When I was diagnosed with precancerous cells and facing the very real possibility of cervical cancer, my first and foremost thought should have been 'am I thin enough for some poor schmuck on an internet forum?'

You are totally right, I was just lacking pride and respect for myself. Thank you for the clearing that up. I will fix my priorities right now!

Those are hardly excuses to be a fat lazy pig that you are. And no, I'm not worried about or care that you're a heffer, the world needs a few of you out there. Always with the excuses. HaHaha

 

[KoPilot]

And here it is, folks! The common idea that thin people with disordered eating is bad, but fat people with disordered eating is good and exemplary because their bodies are a blight on society!

 

[Kellydude666]

And here it is, folks! The common idea that thin people with disordered eating is bad, but fat people with disordered eating is good and exemplary because their bodies are a blight on society!

That and we are going to start having to pay for your healthcare while you sit there and eat yourselves sick with knocking down 2 cinnabons down your throat at a time. Yeah, time be responsible for your health so your not a drain on the rest of the hardworking society. Get real with yourself!

 

[blulilacgrl]

And here it is, folks! The common idea that thin people with disordered eating is bad, but fat people with disordered eating is good and exemplary because their bodies are a blight on society!

Oh Ko, just look at it as an example of how a 'kind, caring husband' treats his wife. Who knows maybe she is staying fat so he will keep away from her. Actually that is a pretty ingenious idea. I would encourage her to eat bon bons and lie in bed all day just to avoid his grubby little hands.

Mmm.. cinnabons. Fuck I haven't had one of those in almost 21 years. Damn. Now I am starting to have a craving. [laughs]

 

[Netzach]

oh bullshit. this question has been asked and answered over and over on this forum without the troll cry. he just unknowingly hit a nerve.

gracie, i guarantee that if you ate just bread and nothing else, but only to that carb limit, you would lose weight. you'd be vitamin, mineral and protein deficient but the weight would fall off. i'm not suggesting it in any way but please stop pretending that your body defies all nutritional logic. your body, like every other human body, cannot, over time, maintain fat if the calorie intake is severely reduced.

likewise, lilac, everybody has life issues and problems day to day. to excuse your weight issues as less important is well, just an excuse for lack of pride and respect for yourself.

condemn him as a cheater if that's what you believe but it's not a sin to be proud of building a business or keeping yourself in shape.

Do you understand anything in the world at all? Physics? Chem? Endocrine 101? Your friend the adrenal gland?

Yes, of course. Fewer calories in, if you're eating 700 eat 500! Duh!

Didn't think so. You're a piece of work.

Your friend the adrenal gland - you shut that fucker off and guess what, you can die fat on 700 cals a day. Yeah, you've done steroids, so have I. Have you done a year at 40+ another year to taper, and another year to de-balloon - more than once in your life?

Me either. When I meet someone who has or may have, I STFU. You should STFU unless you're some kind of a dietary expert. You have just met the person whom even the most obsessive bodybuilder/nutritionist would call "a hard case" and drop the "fewer calories in" rhetoric for.

Some people DO defy a lot of norms. If I'm talking to someone who's been on high dose for years on end, or someone who's got short gut and who the fuck knows how or what they digest, I have no assumptions about what they eat and why they look or don't look.

And you know what?

Nobody has to defend themselves to you. You're going to appoint yourself the arbirter of lazy, so can I.

I may be fat, (partly by fuckery, partly by liking food a LOT after having to force in 800 cal per day for a year and a half) I may be sick, but I'm not so fucking lazy I don't read up on the shit I have to swallow to stay alive, the conditions I have that threaten me, and what it all can do. I'm not so LAZY that I can't talk to other people in similar circumstances, and holy shit, even DIFFERENT ones - and actually believe their experiences of their illness, instead of vilifying them because they're not me or they make different choices.

OK, you got physically fucked and you made sure you still look conventionally good. Here's a fucking cookie. Here's a fucking carrot, sorry, you're above that kind of thing. That doesn't make you a better human, it doesn't mean you're doing anyone a favor, and it definitely doesn't give you the right to call anything these people have in their lives as obstacles to fitness (which might be an argument that you truly care to inform people or motivate them) a motherfucking excuse. (which is just your outlet for swinging at fat people, sorry your life is that lame.)

Lazy takes a lot of forms. Maybe while you've been keeping yourself in shape you might have worked on compassion and humanity 101, or "the limits of what I think I might know about jack shit."

 

[Netzach]

Those are hardly excuses to be a fat lazy pig that you are. And no, I'm not worried about or care that you're a heffer, the world needs a few of you out there. Always with the excuses. HaHaha

What is your excuse for....everything else? Scintillating personality? Magnetism? Literacy? You must be fucking HOT in order to have to pay for it.

 

[graceanne]

oh bullshit. this question has been asked and answered over and over on this forum without the troll cry. he just unknowingly hit a nerve.

gracie, i guarantee that if you ate just bread and nothing else, but only to that carb limit, you would lose weight. you'd be vitamin, mineral and protein deficient but the weight would fall off. i'm not suggesting it in any way but please stop pretending that your body defies all nutritional logic. your body, like every other human body, cannot, over time, maintain fat if the calorie intake is severely reduced.

Wow, someone else who knows more than my dietitian and my doctor. How does it feel to know it all, even more than people who've spent years in school learning about stuff like this. Don't tell me, you're the type of person who knows how everyone else should raise their kids, too aren't you.

In case you actually want to LEARN something (which I doubt, as you know everything already) here are some links:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20625283

http://www.wellnessresources.com/we...gestive_bacteria_cause_obesity_heart_disease/

http://www.livestrong.com/article/290402-low-calorie-diet-and-weight-gain/

http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/04/low-protein-diets-lower-weight-but-dont-cut-fat/

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/705228-caloric-intake-and-weight-gain-help

http://www.montignac.com/en/the-failure-of-low-calorie-diets/

Are you listening to me? Or do you just hear what you want to hear? Or maybe you're just flat out calling me a liar. I have lived on a diet of carbs for years, and lost nothing, no matter what my caloric intake is. You can guarantee anything you'd like, it's bullshit and I'm not the only person who's proof of it - go spend time on a crohns disease board and you'll learn something new. But, heck, you know it all, so obviously I must be lying about my average caloric intake. Or, here's an idea - talk to your doctor and learn what they've found out about dieting over the last 20 years - maybe they know something you don't. I know, what an concept - that you know less than the MANY doctors I see (I have FIVE autoimmune disorders and one doctor for each) and/or a licensed dietitian.

Listen to me, and not what you want to hear. I AVERAGE ABOUT 500 CALORIES A DAY AND HAVE FOR THE ELEVEN YEARS AND OVER THOSE ELEVEN YEARS I GAINED A TOTAL OF 80 POUNDS. When I switched to a low carb diet, at my doctors insistence (partly because I'm diabetic), I lost 60 of those pounds, in six months. I still have 40 to go to be at my target weight, but I'm sick of low carb so I switched to a regular, low calorie, balanced diet (about four months ago) and my weight loss STOPPED. What a shock! However, I haven't gained anymore weight. Yay!

likewise, lilac, everybody has life issues and problems day to day. to excuse your weight issues as less important is well, just an excuse for lack of pride and respect for yourself.

Someday, I sincerely hope that you understand how you sound. As for now, you're on my list of people of whose opinions I don't give a dang, because you've proven to me, without a doubt, to a be a self righteous, know it all.

condemn him as a cheater if that's what you believe but it's not a sin to be proud of building a business or keeping yourself in shape.[/QUOTE]

.... and someone said it's a sin to build a business and keep yourself in shape? I didn't see that. You have an amazing ability to see what you want, don't you? What's the weather like in denial land?

I'm beginning to wonder why we are hitting a nerve with you by having an issue with him lying to his wife.

And here it is, folks! The common idea that thin people with disordered eating is bad, but fat people with disordered eating is good and exemplary because their bodies are a blight on society!

Silly! Bad eating is only a sin if you're fat, it's totally okay if you're anorexic or skinny. You should know that!

 

[Kellydude666]

What is your excuse for....everything else? Scintillating personality? Magnetism? Literacy? You must be fucking HOT in order to have to pay for it.

Hey, you wanna throw stones? Then don't live in a glass house! Sooner or later someone is gonna bite back. If you weren't so fucking lazy about your health then this whole conversation wouldn't hit a nerve with you.

 

[Netzach]

Seriously, this whole "well if you're ill you get a pass, if we think you should have one"

add up all the mofos, with CD, UC, MS, Lupus, Bechet, RA, "we don't know but it's inflammation" and that is a LOT of people with that fluffy steroidal fat we all love. That is someone you know, if not now, at some point.

That is some very hot skinny fit chick who looked like jabba the hut 2 years prior, whose meds are working, or someone who was her 5 years ago, who doesn't feel particularly lazy or worthless now as compared to then.

 

[Netzach]

Hey, you wanna throw stones? Then don't live in a glass house! Sooner or later someone is gonna bite back. If you weren't so fucking lazy about your health then this whole conversation wouldn't hit a nerve with you.

That didn't answer my question, it simply illustrates more of your fail. Unless you really do think that gained weight is the worst thing about another person under any circumstance. Can anyone be that disgusting, honestly?

You're going to get fat. If not fat, you are going to get wrinkly, noodle dicked toothless, and un sexy. You are going to poo your pants and be generally unlikeable by anyone who isn't madly absurdly in love with you. And then you will want someone to care about you.

And then you will die, just like everyone else.

And I hope your wife truly, truly would do nothing for you that you would not do for her.

 

[midwestyankee]

Anyone else willing to join me in ponying up some cash so we can all watch Netzach do a full-force session with the Kdude? Recognizing that it might take a couple of Brinks robberies to hit the right number, of course.

 

[graceanne]

Do you understand anything in the world at all? Physics? Chem? Endocrine 101? Your friend the adrenal gland?

Yes, of course. Fewer calories in, if you're eating 700 eat 500! Duh!

Didn't think so. You're a piece of work.

Your friend the adrenal gland - you shut that fucker off and guess what, you can die fat on 700 cals a day. Yeah, you've done steroids, so have I. Have you done a year at 40+ another year to taper, and another year to de-balloon - more than once in your life?

Me either. When I meet someone who has or may have, I STFU. You should STFU unless you're some kind of a dietary expert. You have just met the person whom even the most obsessive bodybuilder/nutritionist would call "a hard case" and drop the "fewer calories in" rhetoric for.

Some people DO defy a lot of norms. If I'm talking to someone who's been on high dose for years on end, or someone who's got short gut and who the fuck knows how or what they digest, I have no assumptions about what they eat and why they look or don't look.

And you know what?

Nobody has to defend themselves to you. You're going to appoint yourself the arbirter of lazy, so can I.

I may be fat, (partly by fuckery, partly by liking food a LOT after having to force in 800 cal per day for a year and a half) I may be sick, but I'm not so fucking lazy I don't read up on the shit I have to swallow to stay alive, the conditions I have that threaten me, and what it all can do. I'm not so LAZY that I can't talk to other people in similar circumstances, and holy shit, even DIFFERENT ones - and actually believe their experiences of their illness, instead of vilifying them because they're not me or they make different choices.

OK, you got physically fucked and you made sure you still look conventionally good. Here's a fucking cookie. Here's a fucking carrot, sorry, you're above that kind of thing. That doesn't make you a better human, it doesn't mean you're doing anyone a favor, and it definitely doesn't give you the right to call anything these people have in their lives as obstacles to fitness (which might be an argument that you truly care to inform people or motivate them) a motherfucking excuse. (which is just your outlet for swinging at fat people, sorry your life is that lame.)

Lazy takes a lot of forms. Maybe while you've been keeping yourself in shape you might have worked on compassion and humanity 101, or "the limits of what I think I might know about jack shit."

Well put.

Oh and *raises hand*. The last time I was on steroids I did 300 mg a day for two weeks, then went down to 60 a day for a little over a year.

What is your excuse for....everything else? Scintillating personality? Magnetism? Literacy? You must be fucking HOT in order to have to pay for it.

He's a male sub, and into humiliation. Don't give it away for free.

 

[blulilacgrl]

Anyone else willing to join me in ponying up some cash so we can all watch Netzach do a full-force session with the Kdude? Recognizing that it might take a couple of Brinks robberies to hit the right number, of course.

Oh me! me!

Can we take bets on how long before Netzach has him crying?

 

[graceanne]

.....

 

[midwestyankee]

Oh me! me!

Can we take bets on how long before Netzach has him crying?

I think we would need a very sensitive stopwatch.

 

[Netzach]

Special rates for police, clergy, and people who complain about the wife.

Rare exceptions - the guy whose wife hadn't laid him in 20 years, for example, he could have complained all he wanted - however didn't.

 

[graceanne]

Honestly, I don't care if people call me lazy, as I just laugh at them. I have three children, one of whom is special needs and whom I homeschool, and I babysit up to four others. I clean two houses, other than mine, keep my house clean, take care of my husband, and still manage to teach sunday school once a week, manage a registry for a christian organization and moderate several yahoo groups. Plus I'm the librarian here and I keep the bdsm botm conversations catalogued.

 

[Netzach]

Well put.

Oh and *raises hand*. The last time I was on steroids I did 300 mg a day for two weeks, then went down to 60 a day for a little over a year.



He's a male sub, and into humiliation. Don't give it away for free.

Crap too late.

Jesus Christ girlie. My starting was 100 and I got stranded 60-40 1 year once, 6 mos. second time. This latest round was only 4 weeks, and I still put on the last 10 lbs I'd just lost - in one week. Seriously, I was totally losing weight like crazy, working out - only to get the vasculitis thing going. Cue inability to walk suddenly one morning "oh we think it's gout?"

I switched out all my ravenousness onto canned salmon and blueberries and leaves, so I'm glad it was just 10.

Acting like anyone who's been down this train can lose weight like everyone else is like expecting someone to just run in the paralympics using their hands.