ok you male subs

[SweetDommes]

aeroil is right, jason ... but don't let that go to your head aeroil

Male subs aren't really outnumbered, but they are reacted to differently, so they tend not to post. A lot of them still have the issues associated with generations of conditioning that males are to be in charge, strong, and whatever else ... and being submissive means being less of a man. Getting past those issues takes a lot of courage (which hopefully this thread can help to inspire) and a lot of work. There are a lot of people in the lifestyle who still have those silly notions of what is "masculine" and "manly" .... personally, I think any man who not only knows who and what he is, but has the courage to try and get it is more of a man than most I know, but it seems that most people out there don't agree (I'm not talking about most on this site, just people in general).

There is a thread on the collarme forums that I keep thinking about in reguards to this - about bringing out the masculinity in male subs who think that being submisive is less masculine ... I'll have to dig it up and get some of the good stuff from there

 

[Aeroil]

aeroil is right, jason ... but don't let that go to your head aeroil

yay

 

[subliminalmessage]

idea

I was chatting briefly with another person about this thread and the idea that male sub's tend not to post, get a different reaction.

She had just read a post I wrote about being displayed and had what might be an interesting suggestion. She said that as a sub I seemed capable of enduring display, humiliation, being put out there on a limb--or a chain more accurately--for all to see for a Mistress.

Her suggestions was that I start an "Ask the Slave" thread--a place where a male slave had to respond to any question asked, no matter how personal or humbling, whether for someone's else's information or titilation.

What do you all think about the idea? If the votes are favorable I will start one.

 

[Alt]

Ok boys....I am back...and looking for more info about you all! ~~grin~~ now I would be interested in discussing what it is that you enjoy doing for a Woman that increases your feeling of contentment in submission.

Welcome back! This is an easy one for me. I am a pleaser and love to do so without having to be implicitly asked. I remember one particular instance when She came home very stressed. I did everything from getting Her mail and Her favorite drink to cooking an equisite meal and cleaning up. When I finished I just silently waited for any hint from Her. Began to massage Her feet when She said how They ached. It was as if my submissiveness wiped away the stress so She could release Her dominance and power. She progressively became dominant that evening and what was to be a short night turned into a late one! However, I walked on clouds when She told people that I was Her stress relief medicine!

 

[subliminalmessage]

hmmm

no interest in an ask the slave thread? Maybe that is why male sub's don't post more...lol

 

[subliminalmessage]

scene versus thread

thanks for that interesting idea. How would one put together such a scene here (I'm a newbie on lit)? I was thinking of it less as a do this or that, online scene..and more of an open exchange of info in which dommes (or I guess dom's) could get a sub's perspective on anything.

 

[schmerzgarten]

thanks for that interesting idea. How would one put together such a scene here (I'm a newbie on lit)? I was thinking of it less as a do this or that, online scene..and more of an open exchange of info in which dommes (or I guess dom's) could get a sub's perspective on anything.

subliminalmessage -

I think it sounds like a great threat topic, with the caveat that you may wish to have a strong moderator as the potential for hijacking and petty bickering is enormous. Before I was married I participated in a local femdom group that truly opened my eyes to many of the topics discussed thus far in this thread. I fully concede I went there "looking for love in all the wrong places," perhaps, but ended up having a grand time. It was also an opportune forum in which male submissives/bottoms/somethings could exchange thoughts.

cheers, sw

 

[subliminalmessage]

If there is interest in such a thread I'm willing to serve as the askee...but Sw rightly thinks it needs a strong moderator (which a sub may not be cut out for)...anyone with a dominant side want to taek control of such a thread?

 

[eyehicorn]

Sub is my title for doing nasty things.

As I read each thread I keep asking how many subs are in it to please their masters and how many just want an excuse for doing nasty things. Most on-line subs have only two jobs, write how you feel and take pics of yourself doing nasty things. I was given the chance to be an on-line slave to a mistress and found the experience very thrilling. But to be honest, I was only doing things that turned me on but was afraid to do on my own. My mistress gave me an excuse to do what I wanted to do and I believe most on-line subs are the same way.
To do a 24/7 make sure that everything you do is done for the pleasure of another person is the true submissive. And if that person has a need to let out some anger by whipping a sub so be it. But the bottom line is that a sub needs to truly love a master to be able to devote their life to giving pleasure when none may be returned.
After my experience as a sub (on-line) I now want to see what it would be like to find someone to take orders from me and take nasty pictures and do nasty things. I'm even getting my wife to enjoy Literotica and all it has to offer. So anyone wanting to give submission a try----!!

 

[eyehicorn]

maybe this would be a new thread?

If a couple (mistress and dom) would work together and call all on-line subs to a group training. There they could give the subs something to do and the subs could go do it and take pics and post the results. Everyday, the M/D would give new commands and see how many want-to-be subs could fill their request. For all the male subs who can't find a mistress and all other subs just seeing if this live style would work for them, this would be the perfect soluation. One Mistress and one Dom controling the whole cyberspace of subs from one thread.

 

[Maximumtest]

Good thinkin..... who would your have as your Dom/mes to run such a thread?

 

[Shadowsdream]

Here I am travelling again and will be on the holiday circuit until Thursday evening...so once again a blanket thank you to all of the wonderful responses since My last appearance.

I suppose one of the sentences I hear a bit too often is " for Your pleasure only Mistress" only the most naive would not see through that ruse!

I have often wondered if the sub that speaks that sentence when in fact their mind is already anticipating their own pleasure thinks about. Does he think that he has duped a woman into playing to his kink or does he allow himself to feel sincerety?

When it is for "My pleasure" without a benefit to him...then I feel the authenticity of the sentence. Magic!

 

[subliminalmessage]

agree

Your point is related to one of the most common gripes i hear from dommes about subs/slaves/pets: too many seek to bottom from the top.

i've had the occasion to play in groups/public a few times and i have seen this first hand. Subs running around saying things like "whip me for your pleasure Mistress," "Let me lick you for your pleasure . . ."

True submission is going beyond that, having no say in what is about to befall you, and just giving of yourself completely.

On a number of occasions i've been made to do things i didn't want to at all, and those occasions made me feel most owned, used and sub--and i found that those occasions were the ones that gave my last Mistress true pleausre.

 

[subliminalmessage]

my bad

top from bottom not bottom from top...

 

[Shadowsdream]

Your point is related to one of the most common gripes i hear from dommes about subs/slaves/pets: too many seek to bottom from the top.

i've had the occasion to play in groups/public a few times and i have seen this first hand. Subs running around saying things like "whip me for your pleasure Mistress," "Let me lick you for your pleasure . . ."

True submission is going beyond that, having no say in what is about to befall you, and just giving of yourself completely.

On a number of occasions i've been made to do things i didn't want to at all, and those occasions made me feel most owned, used and sub--and i found that those occasions were the ones that gave my last Mistress true pleausre.

Hello subliminalmessage

Thank you for adding your voice to this thought. Luckily for any foolish sub that would show such a lack of class to suggest licking Me in public or at play events this idiocy has never occurred. Kinks aside without a touch of class in presentation or desire I am not above putting one in his place for such a declaration!

 

[subliminalmessage]

class

you'd think that more male sub's would be trained as the equivalent of a courtesan..polite, well-mannered, intelligent conversation, etc. Too many get put in a sexually charged atmosphere and take it as a license to act boorish...

Then they wonder why dommes ignore them.

 

[SweetDommes]

Your point is related to one of the most common gripes i hear from dommes about subs/slaves/pets: too many seek to bottom from the top.

i've had the occasion to play in groups/public a few times and i have seen this first hand. Subs running around saying things like "whip me for your pleasure Mistress," "Let me lick you for your pleasure . . ."

True submission is going beyond that, having no say in what is about to befall you, and just giving of yourself completely.

On a number of occasions i've been made to do things i didn't want to at all, and those occasions made me feel most owned, used and sub--and i found that those occasions were the ones that gave my last Mistress true pleausre.

Instances like you have described are one of the main reasons that we do not do any public play parties.

 

[subliminalmessage]

bad apples

Dommes, a few bad apples spoil the bunch. That is too bad because public play can, in the right circumstances, be a lot of fun. for the same reason most of my experiences with it have been more along the semi-private lines...publicly playing around others at a private party

 

[Alt]

When it is for "My pleasure" without a benefit to him...then I feel the authenticity of the sentence. Magic!

To be caged would be of no benefit to me, ...until i imagine Her joy in caging me.

 

[sphynx's dragon]

Your point is related to one of the most common gripes i hear from dommes about subs/slaves/pets: too many seek to bottom from the top.

i've had the occasion to play in groups/public a few times and i have seen this first hand. Subs running around saying things like "whip me for your pleasure Mistress," "Let me lick you for your pleasure . . ."

True submission is going beyond that, having no say in what is about to befall you, and just giving of yourself completely.

On a number of occasions i've been made to do things i didn't want to at all, and those occasions made me feel most owned, used and sub--and i found that those occasions were the ones that gave my last Mistress true pleausre.

GOD....behavior like that would get me in SOOOOOO much trouble. I'd be eating off the floor for a week! Nevermind the pain that would be involved!

 

[Netzach]

I've only gotten that crap online, never in parties and not really in person. Are there really people willing to make that much of an ass of themelves in person?

 

[subliminalmessage]

Sadly

Sadly Netzach, the answer is yes. i've seen such boorish behavior at a couple of truly public parties. and, i really think it is a big reason why you:
1. Rarely see dommes at public parties, unless off with their own sub or cabal.
2. Rarely see a domme play with anyone other than a sub or pal at such parties.
3. See male subs as a whole get such a bad rap.

Now, in all honesty, my experience has been that at semi-private play events--party at someones house with invited guests--you don't see that. Maybe people are on their best behavior. Maybe the assholes get weeded out. Maybe no uncollared subs get invited.

For thoseof us now uncollared the actions of the few bad apples are a real drag.

 

[sphynx's dragon]

Sadly Netzach, the answer is yes. i've seen such boorish behavior at a couple of truly public parties. and, i really think it is a big reason why you:
1. Rarely see dommes at public parties, unless off with their own sub or cabal.
2. Rarely see a domme play with anyone other than a sub or pal at such parties.
3. See male subs as a whole get such a bad rap.

Now, in all honesty, my experience has been that at semi-private play events--party at someones house with invited guests--you don't see that. Maybe people are on their best behavior. Maybe the assholes get weeded out. Maybe no uncollared subs get invited.

For thoseof us now uncollared the actions of the few bad apples are a real drag.

Yes it does give us a bad rap, but for those of us who are collared there is not much impact. But there is a little from everyone around us.

 

[Shadowsdream]

you'd think that more male sub's would be trained as the equivalent of a courtesan..polite, well-mannered, intelligent conversation, etc. Too many get put in a sexually charged atmosphere and take it as a license to act boorish...

Then they wonder why dommes ignore them.

Fortunately I only meet this variety online...I can say without exception those who have come to Me in the real world have been polite and respectful at all times.

 

[Shadowsdream]

To be caged would be of no benefit to me, ...until i imagine Her joy in caging me.

What benefit would aging you bring to Her in your opinion if you don't mind the question Alt?