Please Tell Us Everything You Know About Primals

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[Farawyn]

Who's the greater fool: the fool, or the one who follows him?

LET'S TALK ABOUT PRIMAL.

If I like to be bitten, does that automatically make me prey?

What about what RA talked about? Is it about the strong being overcome by stronger?

What about "the chase"?

Come on, here, people.

FOCUS.

 

[_Necrosomantic_]

Who's the greater fool: the fool, or the one who follows him?

 

[midwestyankee]

Now, to see if I can help shove the train back onto the track: if you have a sense that you do or could get your jollies as primal prey, does this kind of activity - or do you think that it might - put you into anything like subspace? It seems to me that such a mental state would be a little dangerous in full-on primal play, wherein it makes sense to be at full alert at all times.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[Farawyn]

Now, to see if I can help shove the train back onto the track: if you have a sense that you do or could get your jollies as primal prey, does this kind of activity - or do you think that it might - put you into anything like subspace? It seems to me that such a mental state would be a little dangerous in full-on primal play, wherein it makes sense to be at full alert at all times.

YES!!!

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[Collar_N_Cuffs]

I don't think so, I bite and am not PYL

I don't think so either. Part of what can be good about primal is ending up bitten (etc). That can happen to either party.

 

[_Necrosomantic_]

Now, to see if I can help shove the train back onto the track: if you have a sense that you do or could get your jollies as primal prey, does this kind of activity - or do you think that it might - put you into anything like subspace? It seems to me that such a mental state would be a little dangerous in full-on primal play, wherein it makes sense to be at full alert at all times.

From my experience, yes. In a similar fashion, losing yourself and being overwhelmed by the situation and strong emotions goes hand and hand. I've witnessed it be far more exhausting, because of the lack of cerebral response being replaced by raw sensation. As for dangerous, it would certainly feel that way.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[_Necrosomantic_]

I don't think so either. Part of what can be good about primal is ending up bitten (etc). That can happen to either party.

That's a big part. You are all reaction, instinct, id. It's only natural that you are going to scratch, bite, etc.

Whereas there is much more of a clear outline when it comes to other types of relationships/dynamics, in this instance, one of the " defining traits " is that there's not much established. Hence, Part of the reason it's difficult to pin down any real answers on a lot of questions people ask. Each person acts different when they drop all pretense and give into this " baser self ".

 

[Collar_N_Cuffs]

That's a big part. You are all reaction, instinct, id. It's only natural that you are going to scratch, bite, etc.

Whereas there is much more of a clear outline when it comes to other types of relationships/dynamics, in this instance, one of the " defining traits " is that there's not much established. Hence, Part of the reason it's difficult to pin down any real answers on a lot of questions people ask. Each person acts different when they drop all pretense and give into this " baser self ".

This is an excellent point. Even though we know that no two PYL's or pyl's are alike, it seems likely that many at least have some Venn overlap. While this is also presumably true for primals, I would hazard a guess that you would see variables to a much greater degree. Put simply, there's some crazy shit going on in there (collectively), and god only knows what comes out to play when the need to be civilized is discarded

 

[RubenesqueAphrodite]

It's not a loss of control over his primal urges that's arousing, so much as he has enough control over them and is wise enough to only let them escape once he's confident I will be receptive to such advances.

It's that control over himself that I desire. It indicates patience that many don't have.

Once I've been won over, so to speak, one of the greatest gifts a Dominant could give me is being comfortable enough in his own skin to unleash his primal on me. It tells me trusts me explicitly with his deepest, darkest urges.

It's a dangerous game, though, as there are way too many abusers that have perfected the art of deception, and way too many submissives so eager to be "owned" that their own common sense goes flying out the door as soon as a "dominant" looks at them.

 

[_Necrosomantic_]

This is an excellent point. Even though we know that no two PYL's or pyl's are alike, it seems likely that many at least have some Venn overlap. While this is also presumably true for primals, I would hazard a guess that you would see variables to a much greater degree. Put simply, there's some crazy shit going on in there (collectively), and god only knows what comes out to play when the need to be civilized is discarded

Simple is the point to a large extent, that's where the whole idea essentially stems from. The place that resides behind our presented personalities, the amalgamation of experiences, memories, and social behaviors are dropped/stripped away, what happens when your limbic system comes out to p l a y.

 

[Farawyn]

It's not a loss of control over his primal urges that's arousing, so much as he has enough control over them and is wise enough to only let them escape once he's confident I will be receptive to such advances.

It's that control over himself that I desire. It indicates patience that many don't have.

Once I've been won over, so to speak, one of the greatest gifts a Dominant could give me is being comfortable enough in his own skin to unleash his primal on me. It tells me trusts me explicitly with his deepest, darkest urges.

It's a dangerous game, though, as there are way too many abusers that have perfected the art of deception, and way too many submissives so eager to be "owned" that their own common sense goes flying out the door as soon as a "dominant" looks at them.

This this this!!!

 

[RubenesqueAphrodite]

This this this!!!

you're welcome, Darlin'

Occasionally, I open my mouth and words of wisdom pop out. (Actually that's most days, but so many people have their head's so far up their arses that they can't hear me )

Mark today on your calendar.

 

[_Necrosomantic_]

you're welcome, Darlin'

Occasionally, I open my mouth and words of wisdom pop out. (Actually that's most days, but so many people have their head's so far up their arses that they can't hear me )

Mark today on your calendar.

I think you're giving yourself, FAR too little credit

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[Farawyn]

After a bit of a think last night I checked my diary. I wonder if any other primal who are women notice a relationship with this and the strength of the 'call of the wild'. Hmm, I suppose also for those in cohabiting relationships this could impact on male primals through pheromones. I don't know. I cannot imagine really.

If you are talking about periods?
Yes, I turn into a total horn dog when I get mine.
Is that an animal? Horn dog?

 

[midwestyankee]

If you are talking about periods?
Yes, I turn into a total horn dog when I get mine.
Is that an animal? Horn dog?

Yes. Not to be confused with a corn dog.

 

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[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[Farawyn]

Well...if I were a fertile woman my app then charts these things tells me I am in my fertile window now ( I am irregular so my app is quite nifty). Yesterday I was very primarily human and emotionally raw. And yes I too am a horn unicorn when menstruating

Hmm

Far.....can I call on you for teen age style girly nurse advice sometime this month?

Absofuckinglutley.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[cookiecat]

Yes. Not to be confused with a corn dog.

I want to try s corn dog now. It's never appealed but ...I blame my fertile window. I am obviously seeking a riding plane of nutrition for improved fertility; being me calories )

Corn dogs (also known as a pronto pup) are amazing.

And to totally derail the primal thread, I will say (in my best Debbie Downer voice) menopause is a huge factor in LOSING sex-erotic-arousal-primal stuff. It's like I'm not quite sure who's taken over my body but I don't like her. I have to work really hard at keeping the horn dog factor far above thinking more about corn dogs.

This might be fodder for another thread.