Pmann's How to Improve the PG Thread

[aussiegeekygal]

Fuck, you called my bluff ...

*Thinks of Benedict Cumberbatch*

 

[SassySheDevil]

Yes, the dress was to loan to either one of them. I don’t discriminate.

We'll need lots of pictures!!

 

[hotwords229_A]

Well Damn. Here I was picturing HW and Pmann doing the blowing. great visual to fall asleep to.

You know . . .
Here we are trying to make important policies for a better world and all you women can do is objectify us for our hot bodies.
God Bless America!

 

[MedicalMuse]

I love that you use this gif so prolifically Anja

 

[Dribble]

On the serious side...everyone gets 7 posts a day. Unused posts can't be saved. Use them wisely.

 

[Lord Pmann]

TPH is by far one of the best moderators on lit are you sure it was her who removed the post and not an algorithm or bot or anything?

I mean, I wasn't there to actually see it moderated in the mood room or wherever such goes on. However, I tagged her to ask and got no response. The video was removed from my post, but not where I was quoted. So, I'm quite sure it wasn't an algorithm or a bot. It broke no forum rules.

I like TPH and she and I have always been on good terms. So my comment wasn't anything personal. But there's an opinion that her moderation style is less than moderate. Whether that is the prevailing or overwhelming opinion, I don't know. All I know is that a video I posted which broke no forum rules and even had a warning that it was offensive (so those who might be triggered by it wouldn't click on it) was removed.

It seems the "if you don't like it keep scrolling" is very subjective.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

algorithm or bot or anything?

Bahaha.

Lit is nowhere near that sophisticated

 

[aussiegeekygal]

only where certain threads don't count or it's in 5 threads a day as in within every 24 hours

Nah. Chaos has to abide, too.

I don't like the idea of a post limit but it would be interesting to see it implemented.

 

[Lord Pmann]

have you tried asking her in a pm? as far as my experience goes she'll answer as kindly as you ask the published lit rules have some grey areas too where the lit team has discretion so are you sure it wasn't in the grey area?

No, I didn't ask in a PM. She was tagged in the post, so presumably she saw it. If she wanted to PM me, she could.

It wasn't a list of any of the prohibited items at all. It was offensive. But a lot of the YouTube videos here are wildly offensive. I've seen people post Florida/Georgia Line in the "What Are You Listening To" thread. It doesn't get much more offensive than that.

 

[Dribble]

I can separate the music from the artist. For example, Eric Clapton. Amazing artist. But I will never spend a dime that he profits from again...that's how disgusting his political views are. Fucking Brit come here to profit off our society but doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone that may die from Covid. Just another Kid Rock

 

[aussiegeekygal]

I can separate the music from the artist. For example, Eric Clapton. Amazing artist. But I will never spend a dime that he profits from again...that's how disgusting his political views are. Fucking Brit come here to profit off our society but doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone that may die from Covid. Just another Kid Rock

Kinda like Michael Jackson. Great music. Horrific backstory.

 

[Lord Pmann]

I can separate the music from the artist. For example, Eric Clapton. Amazing artist. But I will never spend a dime that he profits from again...that's how disgusting his political views are. Fucking Brit come here to profit off our society but doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone that may die from Covid. Just another Kid Rock

I'd say that Clapton "not giving a fuck about anyone dying from COVID" is probably quite a stretch to what he actually believes. I don't know what he actually believes, but I'd bet my left nut it's not that. And Clapton hasn't exactly been the golden boy of society during his career.

This seems to be a problem I see often. The conclusions we draw from a person's actions are very often not indicative of their actual stance.

Do you genuinely think Clapton doesn't give a fuck about anyone who dies from COVID?

And how dare you compare him to Kid Rock!

 

[Lord Pmann]

you mean like r kelly?

Not my type of music. But his voice is amazing.

I don't agree with his peeing on minors or sex trafficking policies, though.

 

[Dribble]

I'd say that Clapton "not giving a fuck about anyone dying from COVID" is probably quite a stretch to what he actually believes. I don't know what he actually believes, but I'd bet my left nut it's not that. And Clapton hasn't exactly been the golden boy of society during his career.

This seems to be a problem I see often. The conclusions we draw from a person's actions are very often not indicative of their actual stance.

Do you genuinely think Clapton doesn't give a fuck about anyone who dies from COVID?

And how dare you compare him to Kid Rock!

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/eric-clapton-disastrous-vaccine-propaganda-1170264/

He went on a couple week media tour criticizing vaccines. Plenty of videos out there.

 

[Lord Pmann]

publicly on stage he said something pro-nazi in the 1970s

Clapton has said several racist things over his career. That's well documented.

But the statement is not whether Clapton, 50 years ago, said something racist or prejudiced. It was whether or not he doesn't give a fuck about whether or not people die from COVID.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/eric-clapton-disastrous-vaccine-propaganda-1170264/

He went on a couple week media tour criticizing vaccines. Plenty of videos out there.

Clapton has been a pretty outspoken critic of vaccines based on his experience. Or his "truth". He wrote a song about it.

However, my point is, something like saying a vaccine is bad is not equivalent to "not giving a fuck whether people die of COVID".

I actually think this is an example of something that genuinely WOULD make Lit a better place. Rather than make the quantum leap from "he doesn't believe the vaccine is effective" to "he doesn't care if people die" conclusion, perhaps consider there is a lot of middle ground. As well, one bad belief may not necessarily make a person a horrible human. It might. But I'd certainly hate to be judged, as a whole, by every word I spoke decades back or by every wrong belief I had. That one time.

I think it's these massive leaps to conclusions from statements or beliefs cannot be helpful in engaging. I don't know Clapton, nor am I defending him. But I am saying I doubt he is flippant if people die from COVID.

 

[Dribble]

Having a tour that had to be shut down cause he refused to follow local mandates. Sure...promoting not wearing masks makes total sense. He is a moron.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Having a tour that had to be shut down cause he refused to follow local mandates. Sure...promoting not wearing masks makes total sense. He is a moron.

This is a classic example of the Motte and Bailey principal. Clapton being a moron wasn’t the original claim.

I think the Motte and Bailey fallacy is a huge reason why people cannot have real debates or discussions on Lit. That and they are batshit crazy.

Here is how this argument went, which is a textbook example.

Dribble: Clapton doesn’t care when people die of COVID.

Pmann: I don’t think that’s true. What do you have to support that?

Dribble: Clapton had his tour shut down because he didn’t follow local mask mandates. He’s a moron.

Your first statement is not at all supported by your second statement. This is how so many arguments go. People make outrageous claims with zero evidence. When prompted, they simply argue another much easier to defend point. So many Lit discussions will eventually digress this way.

 

[Mrtenant]

Is this where some celebrity has some vague importance us pleebs will never understand assigned to anything they say? Have him talk about some Campbells soup or some Nestea and I'll think about it.

 

[Trekka]

Is this where we some celebrity has some vague importance us pleebs will never understand assigned to anything they say? Have him talk about some Campbells soup or some Nestea and I'll think about it.

*pops a can of Campbell’s soup and drizzles it between her tits. Snaps a few pics for later.

^^^an example of a well rounded, healthy, popcorn-worthy, community-enhancing, thread derail. With potential for titty pix down the line.

 

[Mrtenant]

*pops a can of Campbell’s soup and drizzles it between her tits. Snaps a few pics for later.

^^^an example of a well rounded, healthy, popcorn-worthy, community-enhancing, thread derail. With potential for titty pix down the line.

(In my best Captain Kirk voice)...."that's a good move!"

 

[Trekka]

(In my best Captain Kirk voice)...."that's a good move!"

*slowly unzips her pink pleather space jumpsuit…

^^and that is an example of a friendly-tease of a thread derail that dips a toe into the naughty pool. But just a toe. Because, i am a lady.

 

[Mrtenant]

*slowly unzips her pink pleather space jumpsuit…

^^and that is an example of a friendly-tease of a thread derail that dips a toe into the naughty pool. But just a toe. Because, i am a lady.

Queues the 1970s porn music........

(I like where this is going. Wear the baby yoda mask?)

 

[Trekka]

^might should save the baby Yoda talk for the controversial opinions thread! that oughtta stir some pots!

I'm comin in hot to defend @Dribble here ... his OG statement was in response to the R. Kelly joke -- Essentially, Dribbs said he's voting with his dollars. He might still rock out to the solo at the end of [a bootlegged copy of?] Layla but he's not gonna spend any more dinero on Clapty. That's a reasonable statement, and a way to effect change as a consumer.

@Lord Pmann, i aint got no clue who Motte and Bailey are, but if you're suggesting a foursome, i. am. down.

 

[Trekka]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

why thank you. i love etymology.

"A Motte and Bailey castle is a medieval system of defence in which a stone tower on a mound (the Motte) is surrounded by an area of land (the Bailey) which in turn is encompassed by some sort of a barrier such as a ditch. Being dark and dank, the Motte is not a habitation of choice. The only reason for its existence is the desirability of the Bailey, which the combination of the Motte and ditch makes relatively easy to retain despite attack by marauders."

^^and now, i'm horny. Mmmmmmarauders...

 

[Lord Pmann]

^might should save the baby Yoda talk for the controversial opinions thread! that oughtta stir some pots!

I'm comin in hot to defend @Dribble here ... his OG statement was in response to the R. Kelly joke -- Essentially, Dribbs said he's voting with his dollars. He might still rock out to the solo at the end of [a bootlegged copy of?] Layla but he's not gonna spend any more dinero on Clapty. That's a reasonable statement, and a way to effect change as a consumer.

@Lord Pmann, i aint got no clue who Motte and Bailey are, but if you're suggesting a foursome, i. am. down.

I’m totally with Dribbs on that. I separate artists from their personal lives all the time. If we don’t, we’d be relegated to listening to Pat Boone. Everyone knows the best artists are troubled souls who do shitty stuff.

Also, no. That is not what I was suggesting. I’m sure you could find some commoner who dwells outside the castle for your fourth.

There’s a reason my castle has a moat.