Premises, premises, always premises.

[HB1965]

Fine. Have you purged your soul now? Enough so that you can stop 'having fun' in a place you so obviously don't belong?

Or is being a poser still amusing you enough that you'll remain?

After all, "just having fun" were you're words, not mine.

Ishmael

Ishmael your knack for taking things out of context is astounding. Just because I don't conform to your black and white vision of a submissive doesn't mean that I am not one. Since you choose to know nothing about me how the hell would you know either way.

As far as I can tell the only poser here is you. You come across as someone who knows nothing about the human race, and is trying to figure it out. Is that why you call yourself Ishmael? Because you see yourself as an outcast from the rest of world?

 

[FungiUg]

Enough so that you can stop 'having fun' in a place you so obviously don't belong?

Having fun is wrong?

And who are you to define who does or does not belong? I thought we had moderators and board owners for that.

 

[Ishmael]

Ishmael your knack for taking things out of context is astounding. Just because I don't conform to your black and white vision of a submissive doesn't mean that I am not one. Since you choose to know nothing about me how the hell would you know either way.

As far as I can tell the only poser here is you. You come across as someone who knows nothing about the human race, and is trying to figure it out. Is that why you call yourself Ishmael? Because you see yourself as an outcast from the rest of world?

Just having fun

<shrug>

Ishmael

 

[HB1965]

Just having fun

<shrug>

Ishmael

And this is supposed to mean something? You were implying in an earlier post that all the subs were looking for Doms. I was simply stating that I wasn't. Again you astound me Ishmael. Your lack of perception is amazing and unfortunate for you.

 

[Ishmael]

Having fun is wrong?

And who are you to define who does or does not belong? I thought we had moderators and board owners for that.

So it is your considered opinion that the moderators and owners are the only ones with judgment? I'm sure if they find me all that offensive my thread(s) will be pulled down. (If you want to bet on that make sure you get REAL good odds.)

And you don't pass judgement? Even passing no judgement is the passing of judgement. Or you can call it discrimination. You know what that is don't you?

And philosophy masquerading as humor is still philosophy.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

And this is supposed to mean something? You were implying in an earlier post that all the subs were looking for Doms. I was simply stating that I wasn't. Again you astound me Ishmael. Your lack of perception is amazing and unfortunate for you.

No I didn't. Adding lies to your repitoire?

Ishmael

 

[FungiUg]

So it is your considered opinion that the moderators and owners are the only ones with judgment?

There's a difference between "judgement" and "discrimination" (positive or negative) and what I would call bullying and exclusion. You are not only passing judgement in a public forum (poor taste in my opinion), but also then attempting to bully someone into being exluded.

"Enough so that you can stop 'having fun' in a place you so obviously don't belong?" isn't judgement. That's harassment.

And you don't pass judgement?

Now where did you get that idea? I absolutely do pass judgement. But I don't assume that I am always right, nor do I assume that everyone else should share my judgement. And I don't pass judgement in a public forum.

 

[HB1965]

No I didn't. Adding lies to your repitoire?

Ishmael

So now you don't understand what the term "implication" and it's various forms mean. OK what about this?
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=545483&page=2&pp=25

Take a gander at post 30 as written by YOU. I take away from that that you are implying that all us subbies should be on our best behavior if we want to be taken seriously by a Dom.

In making that implication you had to have come from a place where you assumed that the subs were all here looking for Doms.

 

[Ishmael]

There's a difference between "judgement" and "discrimination" (positive or negative) and what I would call bullying and exclusion. You are not only passing judgement in a public forum (poor taste in my opinion), but also then attempting to bully someone into being exluded.

"Enough so that you can stop 'having fun' in a place you so obviously don't belong?" isn't judgement. That's harassment.


Now where did you get that idea? I absolutely do pass judgement. But I don't assume that I am always right, nor do I assume that everyone else should share my judgement. And I don't pass judgement in a public forum.

I'm certain there is. And that is also judgement and discrimination.

And exactly how has my opinion transgressed into 'bullying' and how would I ever follow up on a 'bullying' threat if I were to make one?

I'm not a diplomat. Don't pretend to be one. I don't like diplomats. In my opinion, they're kinda like 90's kinda guys. To busy sucking up to see there's a war going on., but smart enough to know that the war began because they failed. (If only in their own mind from the perspective of Monday morning. And I'm not talking about Iraq.)

And discrimination is not eating Fly Agaric, mostly because it fucking killed the idiot that ate it before you. Judgement is not knowing whether it will kill you or not, but not volunteering to be the 'taste tester.'

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

So now you don't understand what the term "implication" and it's various forms mean. OK what about this?
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=545483&page=2&pp=25

Take a gander at post 30 as written by YOU. I take away from that that you are implying that all us subbies should be on our best behavior if we want to be taken seriously by a Dom.

In making that implication you had to have come from a place where you assumed that the subs were all here looking for Doms.

Well, that link didn't work out too well for you BG. If you want me to look at post 30, link post 30. And you'd have your ass shut down in any court and you know it.

Active imagination there 'fish wife.'

Ishmael

 

[FungiUg]

And exactly how has my opinion transgressed into 'bullying' and how would I ever follow up on a 'bullying' threat if I were to make one?

You can agree or disagree with someone. You can respond to or ignore someone. But when you start telling someone who they should behave? Or telling someone they should leave? Yeah, that's bullying in my books.

Following up on a bullying threat? No idea. Use your judgment. But just because what you write are merely words, don't think they can't hurt. Words are one of the most intimidating and dangerous things we humans ever invented. I think any dominant who has done a verbal dressing down with a submissive would agree to that.

Also, your example, the words you use to bully and try and exclude someone, show people how you respect others and treat them... and in turn can lose you respect. That cuts both ways.

Okay, if she were your sub, then this would be an entirely different matter, but then I'd just groan to myself and wish you would take it somewhere private.

 

[HB1965]

Ishmael your pathetic, and I'm starting to feel sorry now that I'm messing with your dumb ass. Have you never heard of SCROLLING DOWN?

You're really reaching on that last one. And no I wouldn't have my ASS shut down in a court of law. Since you're too lazy to bother to look I will quote you:

A sub can read can't they?

I do quite understand your post. And I agree to an extent. But you're only pissing off the very people you're seeking. I would remind you that all actions have unintended consequences.

By using the term seeking you are implying that someone is looking and you are speaking of the subs and the Doms on this forum.

Well, that link didn't work out too well for you BG. If you want me to look at post 30, link post 30. And you'd have your ass shut down in any court and you know it.

Active imagination there 'fish wife.'

Ishmael

 

[HB1965]

Okay, if she were your sub, then this would be an entirely different matter, but then I'd just groan to myself and wish you would take it somewhere private.

Thanks FungiUg. That comment is a good one for me to see. I apologize for acting the way I have. No one needs to listen to this. My only excuse is I've spent to much time on the GB and this ass really pushes my buttons

 

[Ishmael]

You can agree or disagree with someone. You can respond to or ignore someone. But when you start telling someone who they should behave? Or telling someone they should leave? Yeah, that's bullying in my books.

Following up on a bullying threat? No idea. Use your judgment. But just because what you write are merely words, don't think they can't hurt. Words are one of the most intimidating and dangerous things we humans ever invented. I think any dominant who has done a verbal dressing down with a submissive would agree to that.

Also, your example, the words you use to bully and try and exclude someone, show people how you respect others and treat them... and in turn can lose you respect. That cuts both ways.

Okay, if she were your sub, then this would be an entirely different matter, but then I'd just groan to myself and wish you would take it somewhere private.

Thank you for the lecture. Submit it as a term paper and I'll grade it.

Why does it bother you that I might talk to 'her' (a fact unknown to me. To me it's just another internet he/she/it.) in the manner that I do while you, another internet he/she/it feels compelled to jump right in. Is he/she/it your sub? If not, do you feel he/she/it is incapable of defending its self? Why is that?

So what we have here is he/she/it shooting off it's mouth in an unprovoked personal attack on me about a subject totally unrelated to this thread (a thread on the GB), and you, Don Quixote, feel compelled to mount your charger and do battle. How fucking quaint is that? *polite clap*

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

Ishmael your pathetic, and I'm starting to feel sorry now that I'm messing with your dumb ass. Have you never heard of SCROLLING DOWN?

You're really reaching on that last one. And no I wouldn't have my ASS shut down in a court of law. Since you're too lazy to bother to look I will quote you:



By using the term seeking you are implying that someone is looking and you are speaking of the subs and the Doms on this forum.

No you aren't. You just think you are.

Ishmael

 

[HB1965]

No you aren't. You just think you are.

Ishmael

WTF???

 

[HB1965]

So what we have here is he/she/it shooting off it's mouth in an unprovoked personal attack on me about a subject totally unrelated to this thread (a thread on the GB)

And how do you expect people to respond to you Ishmael when much of your time is spent on these forums "shooting off" your mouth about your narrow minded perceptions of other people. You know what? I'm sorry I started this with you. I don't see you as being up to the challenge of engaging in any contest of wit since half the time I can't figure out what you're talking about. I withdraw.

And I apologize for airing it here on the forum.

 

[Ishmael]

And how do you expect people to respond to you Ishmael when much of your time is spent on these forums "shooting off" your mouth about your narrow minded perceptions of other people. You know what? I'm sorry I started this with you. I don't see you as being up to the challenge of engaging in any contest of wit since half the time I can't figure out what you're talking about. I withdraw.

And I apologize for airing it here on the forum.

No you don't. If you were a bit sorry you wouldn't have been here. Further, as you never posted pics in AmPics your indignation is hardly credible.

Actually, very little you've ever posted is credible. You have tried your utmost to turn this thread into something it isn't. What started as a serious discussion, you have made every effort into warping it into a reflection of your own, now self admitted, predjudice. And you accuse me of having a 'narrow mind.'

You make as little sense here as you have in the cafe. By your own judgment of the purpose of the cafe, even less.

Condsidering that I've never personally attacked you under the alt you're currently using and that your ire is based solely on a thread that I started asking a general question about a forum you've never participated in beyond comment posting, one can almost make an accusation of irrationality here. So I will make that accusation.

Ishmael

 

[HB1965]

No you don't. If you were a bit sorry you wouldn't have been here. Further, as you never posted pics in AmPics your indignation is hardly credible.

Actually, very little you've ever posted is credible. You have tried your utmost to turn this thread into something it isn't. What started as a serious discussion, you have made every effort into warping it into a reflection of your own, now self admitted, predjudice. And you accuse me of having a 'narrow mind.'

You make as little sense here as you have in the cafe. By your own judgment of the purpose of the cafe, even less.

Condsidering that I've never personally attacked you under the alt you're currently using and that your ire is based solely on a thread that I started asking a general question about a forum you've never participated in beyond comment posting, one can almost make an accusation of irrationality here. So I will make that accusation.

Ishmael

Since you have no idea what you are talking about I take nothing you say seriously. GOODBYE

 

[Ishmael]

Since you have no idea what you are talking about I take nothing you say seriously. GOODBYE

LMAO

The ultimate retreat.

Ishmael

 

[CutieMouse]

*****

 

[FurryFury]

I care less and less what folks think about what I post. I'm not trying to hurt anybody. I'm just posting what I think or feel in the moment. I'm also NOT looking for a Dom.

If I don't seem submissive to someone too fucking bad. It's NOT their call what I am. Yanno?

I'm also getting pretty damn tired of people saying X is not a real sub because of a post, saying no about something which they don't explain and so on.

Whatever.

 

[Netzach]

I'm not reading the hissyfits at the moment, to the OP:

I'd assume he didn't want to do it. (one could add duh if they're especially bitchy)

Depending how much it mattered to me, it would be of zero to utmost importance.

As for advice to the subs of this board, since I have my own to control I don't give a rat's ass if their respective submission shines through in their demure little woids or if I can't tell what they are until they say so.

I like those people in real life too, the ones who surprise me or who don't come on strong in orientation till I know them - and I actually prefer submissives who are not mine NOT to be submissive with me as a kind of "setting."

I got paid for that, and earned every dollar. Energy suck.

 

[Quint]

.............

 

[catalina_francisco]

A sub can read can't they?

I do quite understand your post. And I agree to an extent. But you're only pissing off the very people you're seeking. I would remind you that all actions have unintended consequences.

Any true Dom(es) reading through those threads would make a check list and go, "No, no, nope not that one. etc."

In effect you end up baiting the very people you're trying to winnow from the chaff.

Ishmael

LOL, and I thought I was the only one who thought this way!

Catalina