The hardcore stuff:enemas/fisting/knife-play/needles/strangling...

A Desert Rose said:
Etoile, who is this guy? I've never heard of him.
His websites are www.fakir.org and www.bodyplay.com and there is a little bio of him there, but a much better resource is the Re/Search book "Modern Primitives." (Interview with him from that book here.) He is a longtime proponent of doing cool stuff with your body; he's 75 years old and he's been doing this stuff since he was young. He is primarily recognized as an expert on piercing, tattooing, and other forms of body modification (armbands, corseting, temporary gilding, etc) rather than a SM expert (I'm uing that acronym deliberately, rather than BDSM) but he certainly has connections in the SM community. There's a pretty good article about modern primitives in general here (Fakir is pictured at the top).

A lot of what he does definitely triggers the "whoa" response in me, although not at all from a BDSM perspective but just a "hey, I didn't know humans could do that" perspective.
 
Etoile said:
His websites are www.fakir.org and www.bodyplay.com and there is a little bio of him there, but a much better resource is the Re/Search book "Modern Primitives." (Interview with him from that book here.) He is a longtime proponent of doing cool stuff with your body; he's 75 years old and he's been doing this stuff since he was young. He is primarily recognized as an expert on piercing, tattooing, and other forms of body modification (armbands, corseting, temporary gilding, etc) rather than a SM expert (I'm uing that acronym deliberately, rather than BDSM) but he certainly has connections in the SM community. There's a pretty good article about modern primitives in general here (Fakir is pictured at the top).

A lot of what he does definitely triggers the "whoa" response in me, although not at all from a BDSM perspective but just a "hey, I didn't know humans could do that" perspective.

LOL... okay. This is beyond and then some, my limits.

Yea... whoa is a good word.

thank you for posting this. When I get home from work tomorrow I'll spend some time reading more of it.
 
Etoile said:
Just a comment here - if I understand you correctly, you said that Fakir Musafar was an icon for these people and not a member of the group himself. I'm not sure if you are speaking of the modern primitive movement or something else, but I really don't see that Fakir's practices have a whole lot to do with BDSM. I think he is about sensation, and very deliberately so, without any pretenses about being anything else. There are elements of power play in some of what he does, but I don't think he is claiming to be anything that is usually discussed on this board.

No, I said he was a figurehead, but I made no mention of whether he was interested in bdsm or the bdsm scene. But let's take it from the horse, himself:

"I found my niche. I found that, in a sense, everything I had been doing since age six always had S&M overtones. [Now] I've been a practioner of S&M with other people for many years. Oddly, most people think of Fakir as a bottom because he hangs in trees with fleshhooks. That isn't necessarily so! For the most part, Fakir is a top. Playing with intense sensation (emphasis mine) is what people do in S&M for the most part..."

--Different Loving, Body Modification Chapter, first interview

His longtime partner, fwiw, is (or was? no idea if they're still together) a very well-known pro-mistress and bdsm scene "leader," Cleo Dubois. She's also interviewed in that book.
 
I personally enjoy cutting during sex, spanking (who freaking doesn't?), biting (to where it scars, actually), and "rape".
 
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