The Key to understanding socialism

[Rightguide]

Rather than answer why not just be critical and use name calling? Does your esteem of your self proclaimed " skill level" go up with you are drugged?

It helps him to see Nirvana where it doesn't exist.

 

[UltraChad]

These policies are not strictly “socialist” in the sense of replacing capitalism but rather reflect social democratic principles.

"THIS ISN'T EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE!!! PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE COMMIE HAND IN YOUR POCKET!!!!"

 

[Rightguide]

Your myopic question deserves an AI response:

AI: Many first-world countries adopt socialist-inspired policies to improve the well-being of their citizens, typically by combining elements of free-market capitalism with robust social safety nets. These policies aim to address income inequality, ensure access to essential services, and promote social welfare. Below are some examples:


1. Nordic Countries (Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland)

• Universal Healthcare: These nations provide free or low-cost healthcare to all citizens.

• Education: Public education, including university, is often free or heavily subsidized.

• Parental Leave: Generous maternity, paternity, and parental leave policies.

• Social Welfare Programs: Comprehensive unemployment benefits, pensions, and housing assistance.

• High Taxation: To fund these programs, they have progressive tax systems, with high-income earners paying significantly more.



2. Germany

• Universal Healthcare: Everyone is required to have health insurance, either through public or private options.

• Free Higher Education: Most universities are tuition-free for both citizens and international students.

• Strong Labor Protections: Workers benefit from robust unions, job security laws, and mandatory paid vacation.

• Generous Parental Leave: Parents can share up to 14 months of paid leave.


3. Canada

• Healthcare: Universal healthcare is provided through a publicly funded system.

• Social Programs: Canada offers generous unemployment benefits, housing assistance, and a Child Benefit program to support families.

• Education Support: Public education is free, and there is significant federal and provincial support for post-secondary students.


4. New Zealand

• Healthcare: Subsidized healthcare is available to all citizens and permanent residents.

• Social Security: Comprehensive welfare benefits, including unemployment, disability support, and pensions.

• Housing Programs: The government invests in affordable housing to address homelessness and housing shortages.


5. France

• Healthcare: Universal healthcare system largely funded through taxes.

• Education: Free public education, with higher education costs among the lowest in Europe.

• Labor Rights: Strong labor laws ensure protections such as a 35-hour workweek, paid vacation, and unemployment benefits.

• Family Benefits: Generous child allowances and parental leave policies.



6. Australia

• Medicare: Provides free or subsidized healthcare services to citizens.

• Social Welfare: Includes unemployment benefits, aged pensions, and family tax benefits.

• Education: Public schools are free, and higher education is subsidized through government loans.


7. The Netherlands

• Healthcare: Universal healthcare with mandatory insurance, heavily subsidized by the government.

• Social Housing: Extensive social housing programs ensure affordable living for low-income families.

• Parental Leave: Generous parental leave policies, including paid maternity and paternity leave.

• Education: Free public education and affordable higher education.



Key Features Across These Countries

1. Universal Healthcare ensures access to medical care regardless of income.

2. Education Accessibility reduces economic barriers to schooling.

3. Social Welfare Programs provide a safety net for unemployment, housing, and disability.

4. Progressive Taxation funds these services by redistributing wealth.

5. Worker Protections include strong labor laws, living wages, and union support.


These policies are not strictly “socialist” in the sense of replacing capitalism but rather reflect social democratic principles. They illustrate how combining a market-based economy with social programs can improve quality of life and reduce inequality.

So, Alex Baily has no response?

 

[AlexBailey]

So, Alex Baily has no response?

I just don’t need to waste my time typing out and regurgitating readily available information that shows successful uses of socialism in modern economies that objectively increase quality of life.

 

[ll74]

No, it's not.

It is

It doesn't. The only parts that work are the capitalist ones and only to the extent that they aren't killed off by the socialist.......if that happens then you get every starving shit hole ever.

If the countries, that are actual working countries, deploy socialism, then they are existing working forms of socialism.

You may not enjoy that is true, but it is.

I never did.

You did

You did by saying this thread isn't about communism.

It isn't about communism. It is about socialism.

No, communism is the political objective.

Communism is a form of socialism.
A Republic is a form of democracy.

Socialism is the economic tool by which leftist try to achieve a egalitarian utopian society, communism.

And a few countries, that are socialist countries, are also communist.

Any thread concerning socialism, even ethno/national socialism.....is about communism.

It is not
They are not the same thing just as a democracy is not a republic.

?? LOL

You should have a base understanding of the topic before you post about it.

Of course

 

[UltraChad]

It is

No, it is not. Communism is a political system. Socialism is the economic system that communist use.

Communism is not a type of socialism. The same way a constitutional republic is not a type of capitalism.

It isn't about communism. It is about socialism.

Again, pretending they are unrelated. They aren't.

Communism is a form of socialism.

No, a political system is not a form of economic system.

A Republic is a form of democracy.

Yes, a political system is a political system.

It is not

It is because a political system is not an economic system.

Of course

You really should do some basic homework.

 

[ll74]

No, it is not. Communism is a political system. Socialism is the economic system that communist use.

Communism is not a type of socialism. The same way a constitutional republic is not a type of capitalism.

Your main argument is that communism is the only socialist form of government. Out of the countries I listed, many are not communist countries.

Socialism is both economical and political.

 

[glamorilla]

Your main argument is that communism is the only socialist form of government. Out of the countries I listed, many are not communist countries.

go live in a shit hole.

good luck!

 

[ll74]

go live in a shit hole.

good luck!

I'll live where I want to live.

Don't need luck.

 

[Rightguide]

I just don’t need to waste my time typing out and regurgitating readily available information that shows successful uses of socialism in modern economies that objectively increase quality of life.

Or perhaps the issue is above your comprehension.

 

[UltraChad]

Your main argument is that communism is the only socialist form of government.

No.

My main argument is that communism is a type of political system and that socialism is an economic system.

The same way a democracy is a political system and capitalism is an economic system.

Communism is not a type of socialism. It is the political objective of socialism, an economic system that holds the same egalitarian values as the communist political ideology.

Out of the countries I listed, many are not communist countries.

Not many are socialist either. All but one were very much mixed economies that only fly because they aren't actually all that socialist.

 

[AlexBailey]

go live in a shit hole.

good luck!

You mean these socialist shit holes which all use a variety of socialist programs to increase quality of life?

• Denmark
• Sweden
• Norway
• Finland
• Iceland
• Germany
• France
• Netherlands
• Belgium
• Austria
• Switzerland
• Italy
• Spain
• Portugal
• Canada
• Australia
• New Zealand
• United Kingdom
• Japan
• South Korea
• Singapore
• Israel

 

[ll74]

No that's your main ascription.

My main argument is that communism is a type of political system and that socialism is an economic system.

Each are both economic and political. Communism is an extension of socialism.

 

[CambridgeBi]

You mean these socialist shit holes which all use a variety of socialist programs to increase quality of life?

• Denmark
• Sweden
• Norway
• Finland
• Iceland
• Germany
• France
• Netherlands
• Belgium
• Austria
• Switzerland
• Italy
• Spain
• Portugal
• Canada
• Australia
• New Zealand
• United Kingdom
• Japan
• South Korea
• Singapore
• Israel

Social Democracy <> Socialism

 

[glamorilla]

I'll live where I want to live.

Don't need luck.

so what's stopping you?

 

[AlexBailey]

Or perhaps the issue is above your comprehension.

Nope, I get it. Meanwhile you deny the benefits of socialism enjoyed by people around globe.


A challenge for you:

Name some countries that use capitalism without any socialist policies.

 

[Rightguide]

You mean these socialist shit holes which all use a variety of socialist programs to increase quality of life?

• Denmark
• Sweden
• Norway
• Finland
• Iceland
• Germany
• France
• Netherlands
• Belgium
• Austria
• Switzerland
• Italy
• Spain
• Portugal
• Canada
• Australia
• New Zealand
• United Kingdom
• Japan
• South Korea
• Singapore
• Israel

They all have market economies.

 

[ll74]

so what's stopping you?

Nothing is stopping me. I already live where I want to live

 

[AlexBailey]

They all have market economies.

That is not in question here. Do you acknowledge that they all use some socialist policies to increase quality of life for citizens?

 

[CambridgeBi]

That is not in question here. Do you acknowledge that they all use some socialist policies to increase quality of life for citizens?

No. Social Democracy <> Socialism.

 

[cowboyup6977]

Pot is a drug period. Whether it is a legal drug or not is the only question from state to state. Stop smoking and you will know stuff like that.

Yeah I’ll get right on that
Booze is the worst drug in the world and it’s legal

 

[CambridgeBi]

Pot is a drug period.

It's a herb

 

[UltraChad]

You mean these socialist shit holes which all use a variety of socialist programs to increase quality of life?

• Denmark
• Sweden
• Norway
• Finland
• Iceland
• Germany
• France
• Netherlands
• Belgium
• Austria
• Switzerland
• Italy
• Spain
• Portugal
• Canada
• Australia
• New Zealand
• United Kingdom
• Japan
• South Korea
• Singapore
• Israel

Japan and Finland are the only non-shit holes on the list, and that's because they largely rejected multiculturalism and told woke-tard progressivism to fuck right off.

 

[Rightguide]

Nope, I get it. Meanwhile you deny the benefits of socialism enjoyed by people around globe.


A challenge for you:

Name some countries that use capitalism without any socialist policies.

Countries that operate under pure capitalism, meaning they have minimal or no socialist policies (such as public welfare programs, universal healthcare, state-funded education, or income redistribution) are relatively rare in the modern world. Most countries incorporate some elements of social welfare or socialism within their capitalist framework. However, there are a few countries where capitalist principles dominate with relatively limited social welfare. Such as these:

1 Qatar

2. Hong Kong (Before 2020)

3. Singapore

4. United Arab Emirates (UAE)

5. Chile (Post-1970s Economic Reforms)

6. Costa Rica

7. Brunei

 

[Lance_Castro]

Hey Roary, when break’s over, Mr Johnson down in B4 on the dementia unit needs his toenails clipped.