The Second Amendment, Gun Control, and School Shootings.

[coachdb18]

Agreed, and agreed.

I would add Volunteers, with a deputy system. There has to be enough concerned Loved Ones for ever single public school to have 4 armed, and Trained (With LEO funding) volunteers to walk around the perimiter.

I'd also make an eyecatching sign, since this is America. Some Americans are stupid, stubborn, and Psycho, but I'm not a marketing expert.

 

[psiberzerker]

But in most if not all cases they are not relevant to policing the civil population.

Volunteers can be deputized. As you always could, if you or any of your gun toting friends actually cared about the security of schools. It would only take 4, per school, and you defined the Militias as any able bodied citizen from 13-80. Narrow that down to 18-60.

That's enough for you to protect your schools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

"Someone really should do something."

Local LEOs don't have the manpower. Not without volunteers.

Coward.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Volunteers can be deputized.

Yup.

As you always could, if you or any of your gun toting friends actually cared about the security of schools.

Civilians cannot deputize themselves.

Local LEOs don't have the manpower. Not without volunteers.

That sounds like an LEA problem they should address.

Coward.

How am I a coward because LEA's have failed to properly secure schools??

Or are you just name calling because your "argument" went over like a turd in the punch bowl??

 

[psiberzerker]

Civilians cannot deputize themselves.

No, you can volunteer, with friends, and a petition, to your LLE.

Or are you just name calling because your "argument" went over like a turd in the punch bowl?

It's not an argument, it's a point. You're trying to argue with it, but the point stands. The Militia can handle it. Easily. You just aren't.

 

[ThatsTheGuy]

Updated the link. Before you impune the source, i caught it on the local news. So it happened. Fort Bragg doesn't exactly have a great track record for stopping homicidal maniacs.

Probably why they don't call the 82nd Airborne division.

I used to know lots of folks in the 82nd, but I wuz never a grunt baby. USN atw.

 

[ThatsTheGuy]

I'm not, I already said the agencies responsible are failing at their job.



More ascription and bullshit.



So then hold your LEA's accountable.



Militias aren't relevant to the school/mass shooting issue in any way shape or form....it's not their responsibility. It's the responsibility of local, state and federal LEA's.

What part of that are you still not understanding?

Militias are relevant to the security of every single state that ever has or ever will exist. But in most if not all cases they are not relevant to policing the civil population.

You 2 should get married.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, you can volunteer, with friends, and a petition, to your LLE.

That doesn't mean much without LEA's supporting it.

It's not an argument. It's a point, you're trying to argue with it, but the point stands. The Militia can handle it. Easily. You just aren't.

A point that you failed to argue and was repeatedly destroyed....getting you all pissed and apparently now sending you into denial of reality.

No the militia can't, policing is not the militias job, it's the job of law enforcement.

What about that do you still not understand?

 

[psiberzerker]

That doesn't mean much without LEA's supporting it.

That's what the Petition is for. Start with the PTA.

A point that was repeatedly destroyed.

And that's basically it. You'd rather argue on the internet than actually exercise your rights. You'd rather be "Right" on the internet, then get off your ass, and be an American.

Along with the rest of the Militia.

 

[coachdb18]

No, you can volunteer, with friends, and a petition, to your LLE.



It's not an argument, it's a point. You're trying to argue with it, but the point stands. The Militia can handle it. Easily. You just aren't.

Lots of well trained, legally armed parents that go to school for every reason from dropping off the kid, to meeting with teachers, to sports or band practice. Schools can add them to a recognized list, with the assistance of the local sheriff, to adequately defend the schools and the kids. Teachers and staff should be among the defenders. Only thing stopping this legal defense is our own government, which as usual is ‘here to help’ LOL

 

[BotanyBoy]

That's what the Petition is for. Start with the PTA.

Sure...get right on that. And the sheriff sayz NO.

And that's basically it. You'd rather argue on the internet than actually exercise your rights. You'd rather be "Right" on the internet, then get off your ass, and be an American.

Along with the rest of the Militia.

Except I don't have the right to police or deputize.

Again, it's not the military nor militias job to police, it's the polices job to police....what part of that are you not understanding?

 

[psiberzerker]

Sure...get right on that. And the sheriff sayz NO.

Not if you don't ask. You don't know anyone on any PTA? You don't know 3 guys you'd trust on the other corners? Way to defeat yourself. The sherrif can't say no if you don't even talk to the PTA.

Nobody's Hero.

Again, it's not the militias job to police.

So, again, it doesn't get done. Congratulations on killing the American Militia. I'll engrave "Not my job" on the tombstone for you, since you can't be bothered to do that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not if you don't ask.

I don't need to.

I live in northern California.......I have better odds of getting a licence to sell weed to the kids than carry a gun on campus.

If I were still living in Texas you might have a point.

But here that suggesting is fucking laughable.

So, again, it doesn't get done.

Because it's not allowed....because it's not the militias job....under the law.

Policing is the job of the police, not the militia, not the military.

What part of that do you still not understand?

Congratulations on killing the American Militia.

Wrong again....it's still very alive and ready to fight.

I'll engrave "Not my job" on the tombstone for you, since you can't be bothered to do that.

Whatever fantasy you have to generate to keep ignoring both the legal and social reality of the situation.

 

[psiberzerker]

So, assuming there's someone here who isn't so paralyzed by his fear of rejection, who actually remembers caring enough to literally fight for what he believes in when someone might be wrong on the internet:

How about #MilitiaAgainstSchoolShooters? MASS, that should be pretty easy to remember. All you'd need is a sign, a good rifle, a sidearm, maybe a folding chair with an umbrella when it's still hot in August (You have all summer to organize, and Regulate yourselves.) 3 friends to cover the other corners (On average) and a petition signed by the PTA.

Oh yeah, and a spine. It's not a Gun Free Zone across the street.

 

[ThatsTheGuy]

Lots of well trained, legally armed parents that go to school for every reason from dropping off the kid, to meeting with teachers, to sports or band practice. Schools can add them to a recognized list, with the assistance of the local sheriff, to adequately defend the schools and the kids. Teachers and staff should be among the defenders. Only thing stopping this legal defense is our own government, which as usual is ‘here to help’ LOL

I think they should get married. You be Botany's best man and I give Psycoburger away.

 

[psiberzerker]

I have better odds of getting a licence to sell weed to the kids than carry a gun on campus.

Self defeating. It's not a Gun Free Zone across the street, and you'd have better line of sight, anyway.

You know perimeter defense. Don't act like you don't. You know upset PTA moms, you know 3 guys you'd trust on the other corners, and I'd be willing to bet you know some LEOs you can talk to.

Stop telling yourself you can't. Tell your friends, and get those signatures by the fall semester. You could be a hero for once in your life, or keep telling yourself that the Government won't let you exercise your 2nd Amendment Rights.

Stop telling me I'm wrong, and tell yourself you can be a hero again.

 

[BotanyBoy]

So, assuming there's someone here who isn't so paralyzed by his fear of rejection,

Rejection is not something I've ever feared.

who actually remembers caring enough to literally fight for what he believes in

That's a lot closer to the issue.

You see I don't care about the occasional shooting nor do I buy into the hysteria.

Mother fuckers get blasted all the time everywhere....here in the USA at considerably lower rates than most.

I'm far more scared of the idiot driving drunk or on the phone than a mass shooter.

It's not a Gun Free Zone across the street.

It's still California across the street.....just being armed here is something you DO NOT flaunt, it freaks people out and is a good way to get shot by the popoz.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Self defeating.

I'd be willing to bet you know some LEOs you can talk to.

Realist.

I do, we've talked about this topic, and they know a militia at the school here is political suicide. So they chose to add shooter response training and a school resources officer after raising taxes for it in a democratic manner.

Because they want to keep their job.

This is California.....not Texas.

 

[psiberzerker]

Rejection is not something I've ever feared.

"What if they say no?"

You see I don't care about the occasional shooting nor do I buy into the hysteria.

I bet you know people online, and they know people... I know you don't care, but the LEAs are undermanned as it is. That's why they aren't doing anything about this, they can't. They need volunteers.

I'm far more scared of the idiot driving drunk or on the phone than a mass shooter.

You can't do anything about that, and MADD already exists. You can't do any better than MADD? What are those guns for, watching Red Dawn, and cleaning the dust off of?

It's still California across the street.....just being armed here is something you DO NOT flaunt, it freaks people out and is a good way to get shot by the popoz.

Unless you're deputized, and the School knows why you're there, because they signed the Petition.

Again, stop telling yourself why you've already failed, and fight for something, because you have that right. If not you, you know lots of people who do care. You could train them, you don't have to sit out on the corner yourself if you're too lazy. You don't even have to get off your keyboard.

 

[psiberzerker]

You could be personally responsible for helping to make the Militia relevant again.

Or, you can keep being an inactivist, looking for people who're "Wrong" on the internet.

What are you waiting for, IrezumiKiss to tell you which archaic laws?

 

[BotanyBoy]

"What if they say no?"

Then they say no.

Unless you're deputized

And there is the issue....most Sheriffs in California want to be re-elected including mine.

If I were in Texas like you then you might have a point, there would be potential for voluntary deputies to police the schools.

In CA that shit is simply NOT happening.

You could be personally responsible for helping to make the Militia relevant again.

It's every bit as relevant today as it was in 1776 bubba.

Again, policing is the job of the police, not the militia or military.

What part of that are you still not understanding?

 

[psiberzerker]

And there is the issue....most Sheriffs in California want to be re-elected including mine.

And you don't know any militiamen anywhere else, on the internet? Again, you don't even have to get up. You could even tell them it was all your idea.

What part of that are you still not understanding?

 

[BotanyBoy]

And you don't know any militiamen anywhere else, on the internet?

Sure...I'm talking to one right now.


What's the point?

 

[psiberzerker]

Sure...I'm talking to one right now.


What's the point?

What's the point of telling them nothing can be done about it? You tell me.

 

[BotanyBoy]

What's the point of telling them nothing can be done about it? You tell me.

Who am I telling nothing can be done about what?

 

[psiberzerker]

Who am I telling nothing can be done about what?

Okay, since you asked.

It's the LEA's job, they aren't doing it. Because they don't have the manpower, they need volunteers.

What are you doing about it?

The (State) government is infringing on your right to bear arms. What are you doing about that?

Can you argue a compelling defense for the second amendment, or not? To a PTA meeting? To a sherriff? To a fellow law abiding gun owner on the internet?

That's what you can do. You can stand up, or sit down, and type, in defense of the Militias to defend the security of a free state. This it the perfect opportunity, but you're so obsessed with proving me wrong, you're defeating yourself, because it was my idea.

Then tell them it was your idea, find someone, and argue for the Militia's 2nd Amendment rights. What part do you still not understand?