Two! Four! Six! Eight! JaySecrets Prevaricates!

[JaySecrets]

Wait ! This God is the same all knowing creature who eliminated almost all of his Creation because HE fucked up?

He judged most of His creation because mankind was warned, over and over, and had become so vile and corrupt in its refusal to listen to the warnings that they were destroying themselves in the most vile of ways. There was literally only one righteous family left on earth. So Noah found grace.

He killed his own son to make a point that has yet to be accepted by the majority of the People of Earth?

He sacrificed His Son to make the free gift of salvation available to all who receive it. The majority accepting it or not does not nullify the offer. If I reject a gift you offer me, that doesn't negate the kindness or love you show in sacrificing to provide the gift. And the Father and the Son planned this sacrifice, knowing before time ever began that man would rebel. God desired and designed the relationship, and paid the ultimate price for it. How one could turn the ultimate love story into anything less is unfathomable.

Oh.. and those who believe in Him absolutely are ok with ignoring all science to make reality match His Βιβλίο ?

Science matches the Bible quite well. There are many scientists who have become Christians because of what they observe in science, and a great majority of the scientists and mathematicians who gave us the very founding principles of science were either Deists or Christians. A few of the most influential even to today also wrote some of the greatest theological treatises of their time.

But? Go ahead get mad at California for protecting any woman’s FREE WILL!!

When your free will violates the sanctity of the life of an innocent, only a heartless person would stand silently by. That baby in the womb is not part of that woman's body any more than a person on the other end of a blood transfusion tube from me is part of mine. That baby has separate DNA, a separate mind and heart, a separate body, a separate gender. That is a separate, new, innocent life at its most vulnerable. And the Bible actually condemns those who stand idly by while innocent life is taken.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Evil is in the world. That evil is because of man's choices. Those choices harm others or impact others. For God to remove the consequences He would have to remove all choice. Including yours.

Not talking about me, talking about 3-4 year old kids going to bed cold and hungry. If they even have beds.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Oddly? God’s chosen disagree with you as to “babies” in the womb, but what do they know? They only wrote the first part of God’s Book.

The Supreme Court will have to face this religious disagreement soon I bet.

 

[JaySecrets]

Not talking about me, talking about 3-4 year old kids going to bed cold and hungry. If they even have beds.

But their hunger is a consequence of another person's choices. To eliminate the hunger He would have to eliminate the choices. And He would have to be Just which means you lose your free will too.

 

[Pad_Foot]

So, the parents of an orphan choose to die??!

I don’t like “your” god.

 

[JaySecrets]

Oddly? God’s chosen disagree with you as to “babies” in the womb, but what do they know? They only wrote the first part of God’s Book.

Secular Jews tend to agree with you. Orthodox Jews who actually believe in the whole Old Testament do not. Because they have read the many Old Testament passages defining a baby's life in the womb.

The Supreme Court will have to face this religious disagreement soon I bet.

 

[Lazaran]

He judged most of His creation because mankind was warned, over and over, and had become so vile and corrupt in its refusal to listen to the warnings that they were destroying themselves in the most vile of ways. There was literally only one righteous family left on earth. So Noah found grace.

So fast forward to today, and in the above scenario, JaySecretioms imagines orange Jesus in the God role, and Jaysecretions is Noah - amirite.

JaySecretions probably believes they’re so righteous and special that orange Jesus is going to pick JaySecretion and their family to survive the final rain of fire.



JaySecretions

 

[JaySecrets]

So, the parents of an orphan choose to die??!

I don’t like “your” god.

No, but death came into the world as a direct result of man's sin. And man was warned and chose to sin anyway.

As for God, He becomes Father to the Orphan.

And that orphan going hungry is going hungry because people like you choose not to use your personal resources to feed him, not because God didn't hear. Your choice is why he or she is hungry tonight.

 

[JaySecrets]

So fast forward to today, and in the above scenario, JaySecretioms imagines orange Jesus in the God role, and Jaysecretions is Noah - amirite.

I know Jesus is God because that's exactly what He claimed, then proved it by rising from the dead. Trump ain't Him. To call him that is beyond blasphemy. Read my posts about where I stand on Trump. As for me, well, anyone who is a person who is wise enough to take the Bible seriously knows that there is a coming judgement.

JaySecretions probability believes they’re so righteous and special that orange Jesus is going to pick JaySecretion and their family to survive the final rain of fire.

Again, I don't even like Trump, as I have clearly stated.

JaySecretions

 

[Pad_Foot]

Ah so, Secular Jews bad?
Orthodox Jews good!

Got it !!
And the Orthodox Christian Bible beaters ?? The “Man walked with dinosaurs,” sort?? The William Jennings Bryan ilk?? Where do they stand?

 

[LLCox]

 

[JaySecrets]

Ah so, Secular Jews bad?
Orthodox Jews good!

You were the one who brought up the Jewish tie to Scripture. The secular Jews, like secular "Christians" don't give any Scripture much weight and give it only allegorical credence. So that they would be cited in talking about Scripture is a bit disingenuous. They aren't even sure about God.

Got it !!
And the Orthodox Christian Bible beaters ?? The “Man walked with dinosaurs,” sort?? The William Jennings Bryan ilk?? Where do they stand?

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Since dinos clearly "died out 65 million years ago, before man was ever on the scene, perhaps you can explain this abundance of physical evidence to the contrary...

Look, the evidence is there in abundance for every claim made by Scripture. You just choose not to look at it or accept it. Because humanism is your religion.

 

[JaySecrets]

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When you have to resort to the crude and insulting, you have lost the argument.

 

[LLCox]

When you have to resort to the crude and insulting, you have lost the argument.

oh, I'm not even arguing, son. Nothing to see here.

 

[ll74]

You were the one who brought up the Jewish tie to Scripture. The secular Jews, like secular "Christians" don't give any Scripture much weight and give it only allegorical credence. So that they would be cited in talking about Scripture is a bit disingenuous. They aren't even sure about God.

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Since dinos clearly "died out 65 million years ago, before man was ever on the scene, perhaps you can explain this abundance of physical evidence to the contrary...

Look, the evidence is there in abundance for every claim made by Scripture. You just choose not to look at it or accept it. Because humanism is your religion.

Your videos aren't showing evidence that man and dinosaurs existed at the same time. They are laymen showing you pictures and "just asking questions" about them. There is no true scientific analysis happening. It's the equivalent of the flat earther pointing at the horizon and saying "see!!??!!"

 

[Pad_Foot]

Bye, Jay
That made it reallllllly clear

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Since dinos clearly "died out 65 million years ago, before man was ever on the scene, perhaps you can explain this abundance of physical evidence to the contrary...

Which is it? Earth is either 4.5 Billion years old or it's 6-10 thousand...make up your mind...

And as for the age of the earth, we would say closer to 6,000-10,000 years old, but, yes essentially young, not millions of years. Again both are theories, but the evidence points to the young earth the Bible describes. For example:

Look, the evidence is there in abundance for every claim made by Scripture. You just choose not to look at it or accept it. Because humanism is your religion.

Hell you can't even keep your arguments straight...we're supposed to blindly follow your words???

 

[LLCox]

Look, the evidence is there in abundance for every claim made by Scripture. You just choose not to look at it or accept it. Because humanism is your religion.

 

[JaySecrets]

Which is it? Earth is either 4.5 Billion years old or it's 6-10 thousand...make up your mind...



Hell you can't even keep your arguments straight...we're supposed to blindly follow your words???

I was clearly adopting your argument of how old the earth is to make the point that your argument is wrong. Ergo the quotes. Keep up, will you?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I was clearly adopting your argument of how old the earth is to make the point that your argument is wrong. Ergo the quotes. Keep up, will you?

Actually it wasn't clear at all, which may be the problem you keep having. A failure to express what you mean in the written form.

Since dinos clearly "died out 65 million years ago, before man was ever on the scene, perhaps you can explain this abundance of physical evidence to the contrary...

See the problem???

 

[RoryN]

I thought you were ignoring me.

Oh, that's right - you're a serial liar. Forgot.

When someone asks the important questions, the ones that have forever consequences, they deserve to have the right answers.

So, yeah - you lied. Again.

I find your beliefs and behavior abhorrent, but I don't hate you.

There's another one...

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

But their hunger is a consequence of another person's choices. To eliminate the hunger He would have to eliminate the choices. And He would have to be Just which means you lose your free will too.

But their hunger is a consequence of another person's choices. To eliminate the hunger He would have to eliminate the choices. And He would have to be Just which means you lose your free will too.

We’ve agreed that God has the ability to feed them but chooses not to. We agreed that God can perform miracles.

 

[JaySecrets]

Your videos aren't showing evidence that man and dinosaurs existed at the same time. They are laymen showing you pictures and "just asking questions" about them. There is no true scientific analysis happening. It's the equivalent of the flat earther pointing at the horizon and saying "see!!??!!"

The videos literally show just a small portion of the thousands of pottery examples of pictures of men living with, riding, hunting, and being attacked by dinosaurs, though before very recently in language that word dinosaur didn't exist. (The word used before that was dragon. Look up when the word dinosaur came about.) They show just some of the many places around the world where dinosaur and human footprints are fossilized together. The evidence speaks for itself, and minus the preset conclusion that the two are separate, a reasonable person would come to the conclusion they were drawing what they saw and did, that both the animals and humans were moving together in some major catastrophic event.

 

[JaySecrets]

We’ve agreed that God has the ability to feed them but chooses not to. We agreed that God can perform miracles.

And he does. Regularly. But his way of reaching out to people, because He made man in His image, is other people. When they fail to act, to then remove the consequences altogether is disingenuous. Maybe stop blaming God and start looking at yourself. As in YOU PERSONALLY go and meet needs. How often have you done THAT? You have no grounds for condemning God when He made men to help and fellowship with each other.

 

[ll74]

The videos literally show just a small portion of the thousands of pottery examples of pictures of men living with, riding, hunting, and being attacked by dinosaurs, though before very recently in language that word dinosaur didn't exist. (The word used before that was dragon. Look up when the word dinosaur came about.) They show just some of the many places around the world where dinosaur and human footprints are fossilized together. The evidence speaks for itself, and minus the preset conclusion that the two are separate, a reasonable person would come to the conclusion they were drawing what they saw and did, that both the animals and humans were moving together in some major catastrophic event.

That's not what it shows. A man who is not an anthropologist pointing out things that he thinks shows fossil records of anything, is not conclusive proof.

Again, someone saying "see!!??!!" Isn't credible analysis of fossil records.

When you say "reasonable person", you mean that you don't care for actual scientific evidence and instead rely on "see? The horizon is flat so the earth is flat. I'm a reasonable person"