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[Stella_Omega]

I refuse the insult the genitalia of *any* of our species by calling Huckabee one of them. I have a penis, and I like it. I also like pussies, twats, cunts, whatever you wanna call 'em. I like (female) assholes, too, regardless of what may come out of them when I'm not going in and out of them I can happily, however, describe Huckabee as what comes out of them (when it's not me).

ETA: That's kind of awkwardly phrased, but I'm tired, my head hurts badly at the moment, and y'all are smart enough to figure out what I was trying to say. Thanks.

Totally, Big Guy. Don't even worry about it.

 

[Netzach]

I'm wary of cocksucker, too easily taken wrong, though it's most satisfying to bark out.

Cock knob. Fuckstick. Fuck me running. Nutsack.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Think real carefully about what exactly is the implied insult in "cocksucker."

Think real, real careful.

 

[BiBunny]

I'm wary of cocksucker, too easily taken wrong, though it's most satisfying to bark out.

Cock knob. Fuckstick. Fuck me running. Nutsack.

I am a fan of dickbag.

One dick = good. Several dicks = also good. Sack full of disembodied dicks? Very, very bad.

 

[Netzach]

Think real carefully about what exactly is the implied insult in "cocksucker."

Think real, real careful.

I'm lost. A passive gay dude latched onto a dick is what comes to mind, and I don't think it's a bad thing to be and I'm sure you don't either.



Oh, you mean like, chicken fan?

 

[Ropebunny]

Oh, you mean like, chicken fan?

Now I'm really confused. I tried google and apparently some people really, really like chickens (I had no idea poultry shows existed) but I don't think that's what you meant.

Anyway, my prefered insults are douche/douchebag, asswipe and fuckwit. I guess douche could be seen as derogatory towards women as it's primarily a female product, but didn't everyone stop douching years ago?

 

[seela]

I have to admit, I've never thought of my choice of swear words very carefully.

My go-to word is cunt and derivatives of it. Cunt head, cunt face, full-body cunt, and so on. For balance(?) I also use "oh dick of cunt", too.

I've never felt it's disparaging for women, just foul language in general. I don't curse often, but when I do, I go all the way. I have no "curse lite" mode.

I don't speak that much English these days, and reasons to curse when speaking English are even scarcer, so I can't really say, what would come out naturally.

 

[midwestyankee]

I'm lost. A passive gay dude latched onto a dick is what comes to mind, and I don't think it's a bad thing to be and I'm sure you don't either.



Oh, you mean like, chicken fan?

I'm sure that's Stella's point: that calling someone a cocksucker is just another way of using homosexuality as a dismissive, derogatory, insult. That it's such a terrible thing to be male and gay that it's a worthy curse upon someone to call them thus.

That said, I'm awaiting clarification on the meaning of "chicken fan."

 

[Stella_Omega]

I'm sure that's Stella's point: that calling someone a cocksucker is just another way of using homosexuality as a dismissive, derogatory, insult. That it's such a terrible thing to be male and gay that it's a worthy curse upon someone to call them thus.

That said, I'm awaiting clarification on the meaning of "chicken fan."

I used to understand "chicken" to mean young-- maybe what we would call "twink" now.

But the other hidden assumption in "cocksucker" is that it's a receptive position, and to be receptive is to be not a real man in current thought. Women aren't Real Men, Men who suck dick, or who take it up the ass are not Real Men, a woman in a strapon is a little bit more like a Real Man than one not. I say this knowing full well that there are many people here in this forum who know otherwise but-- it's a big gestalt and it fuels so many of our insults. SO MANY.

I do think that "twat" and 'cunt", "prick" "Dick" etc have their uses as insults, people who are more or less controlled by their little brain--why not?

Just-- when we are talking about vicious evil people who can and do harm our society-- nobody's dick can do that, it takes a mind and usually, a pair of opposable thumbs.

 

[Stella_Omega]

David Sirota needs an editor, IMO. But he has some interesting things to say-- and an interesting account of what happens when he says them;

Is it time to profile white men?

Let’s review: Any honest observer should be able to admit that if the gunmen in these mass shootings mostly had, say, Muslim names or were mostly, say, African-American men, the country right now wouldn’t be confused about the causes of the violence, and wouldn’t be asking broad questions. There would probably be few queries or calls for reflection, and mostly definitive declarations blaming the bloodshed squarely on Islamic fundamentalism or black nationalism, respectively. Additionally, we would almost certainly hear demands that the government intensify the extant profiling systems already aimed at those groups.

Yet, because the the perpetrators in question in these shootings are white men and not ethnic or religious minorities, nobody is talking about demographic profiling them as a group. The discussion, instead, revolves around everything from gun control, to mental health services, to violence in entertainment — everything, that is, except trying to understanding why the composite of these killers is so similar across so many different massacres. This, even though there are plenty of reasons for that topic to be at least a part of the conversation.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Armed task force to patrol streets
Police chief says citizens could be subject to ID checks

In response to a recent increase in crime, Paragould [AR] Mayor Mike Gaskill and Police Chief Todd Stovall offered residents at a town hall meeting Thursday night at West View Baptist Church what could be considered an extreme solution — armed officers patrolling the streets on foot.

Stovall told the group of almost 40 residents that beginning in 2013, the department would deploy a new street crimes unit to high crime areas on foot to take back the streets.

"[Police are] going to be in SWAT gear and have AR-15s around their neck," Stovall said. "If you're out walking, we're going to stop you, ask why you're out walking, check for your ID."​

There's a LOT more in the article linked through the headline. The Wiki article on the city itself is linked in the first paragraph.

I have a feeling that a US District Court of Appeal is going to be hearing a case (or 50) on these actions before too long.

 

[DVS]

Armed task force to patrol streets
Police chief says citizens could be subject to ID checks

In response to a recent increase in crime, Paragould [AR] Mayor Mike Gaskill and Police Chief Todd Stovall offered residents at a town hall meeting Thursday night at West View Baptist Church what could be considered an extreme solution — armed officers patrolling the streets on foot.

Stovall told the group of almost 40 residents that beginning in 2013, the department would deploy a new street crimes unit to high crime areas on foot to take back the streets.

"[Police are] going to be in SWAT gear and have AR-15s around their neck," Stovall said. "If you're out walking, we're going to stop you, ask why you're out walking, check for your ID."​

There's a LOT more in the article linked through the headline. The Wiki article on the city itself is linked in the first paragraph.

I have a feeling that a US District Court of Appeal is going to be hearing a case (or 50) on these actions before too long.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say I see nothing wrong with this. And from the point of view of police, it shouldn't be an issue for anybody that's not doing anything wrong. It's as simple as that. Sure, it might be seen by some as infringing their rights, but sometimes that is necessary.

Traffic stops are geared to catch not only speeders, but drunks on our roads. I've had friends killed by drunk drivers. If someone had stopped them before they met my friends, maybe those friends would still be alive.

Honest citizens have to understand that some of the infringement of our rights to privacy have become necessary to keep us safe. I for one am willing to be stopped by a police officer to explain why I'm where I am at any given time. What looks suspicious to me and to police is the person who feels offended that their rights are being infringed.

This might not catch the next mass killer on their way to kill more innocent people, but it might. I don't think this will end up as a police state, even if some think it will. Maybe you'll end up learning the first name of the cop on patrol in your neighborhood. If you like him, you can send him a Christmas card. If you don't like him, send him a fruit cake!

 

[Stella_Omega]

That's quite a limb you're out on, DVS.

Honest citizens have to understand that some of the infringement of our rights to privacy have become necessary to keep us safe. I for one am willing to be stopped by a police officer to explain why I'm where I am at any given time. What looks suspicious to me and to police is the person who feels offended that their rights are being infringed.

If there were a "Made Me Puke" button, I would so push it.

 

[BiBunny]

Yes, please sign me up for being treated like a criminal when I'm not, on the off chance that it might prevent some nebulous "something" from happening.

 

[CutieMouse]

re: swearing and slurs...

In the deepest, most frustrating moments of the last 6 or so months, my favorite way to refer to my ex-husband was been a bit wordy, but accurate:

"To call him a dick would be an insult to all the perfectly lovely dicks I've had the pleasure of knowing; he's not worthy of the term cunt. He's just an ex and I refuse to give him anything more than that."

 

[DVS]

That's quite a limb you're out on, DVS.


If there were a "Made Me Puke" button, I would so push it.

LOL, I would have expected nothing less from you, Stella. Police are villains until you need one. Then they are saints.

 

[DVS]

Yes, please sign me up for being treated like a criminal when I'm not, on the off chance that it might prevent some nebulous "something" from happening.

Criminals don't have CRIMINAL stamped on their forehead. They know enough to act honest, when they aren't. So, the only way to catch some criminals is after they have killed someone. That's because people don't want their rights to be infringed.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Criminals don't have CRIMINAL stamped on their forehead. They know enough to act honest, when they aren't. So, the only way to catch some criminals is after they have killed someone. That's because people don't want their rights to be infringed.

Umm... remember when you got in trouble for some kind of race-adjacent incident? Would it have involved in any way, some kind of statement of this nature? I'm asking in all seriousness.

 

[BiBunny]

I don't have a problem with officers patrolling. I do have a problem with someone who's minding their own business and not bothering anyone being stopped, made to show ID, questioned, and expected to justify their presence in a public area. That's a slope that gets slippery in a goddamned hurry.

 

[DVS]

I don't have a problem with officers patrolling. I do have a problem with someone who's minding their own business and not bothering anyone being stopped, made to show ID, questioned, and expected to justify their presence in a public area. That's a slope that gets slippery in a goddamned hurry.

I understand what you are saying but the bad guys know you feel that way and take advantage of it.

 

[DVS]

Umm... remember when you got in trouble for some kind of race-adjacent incident? Would it have involved in any way, some kind of statement of this nature? I'm asking in all seriousness.

Contrary to what you might think, I haven't forgotten that. I didn't get into trouble, I was wrongfully accused by a minority I supervised, then convicted and fired by a company that was scared shitless that the EEOC was going to come after them if they didn't fire somebody for making racist comments. Nobody ever verified that there were any racist comments made. Reverse racism isn't a firing offense because no minority is offended.

Criminals don't have CRIMINAL stamped on their forehead. They know enough to act honest, when they aren't. So, the only way to catch some criminals is after they have killed someone. That's because people don't want their rights to be infringed.

I don't understand your connection with that and the above commented post. Dare I ask you to clarify?

 

[Netzach]

I understand what you are saying but the bad guys know you feel that way and take advantage of it.

That's just a risk you have to run in order to not be, you know. Saudi Arabia.

 

[DVS]

That's just a risk you have to run in order to not be, you know. Saudi Arabia.

No problem. Just don't complain when police can't catch the bad guy soon enough for you.

 

[Netzach]

No problem. Just don't complain when police can't catch the bad guy soon enough for you.

I'm more liable to complain when they bust in the head of some mentally ill kid for peeking in parked cars.

 

[DVS]

I'm more liable to complain when they bust in the head of some mentally ill kid for peeking in parked cars.

There's always two sides to the coin. Complain all you want when cops mess up.