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[@}-}rebecca----]

My daughter told me that someone was banned from a board she was one recently for using a racial slur. The slur was "skippy."

Fury

Here I can clear up that confusion.

This covers skippy Miss Fury . I don't find it offensive irrespect what the other party is inferring, its still a kangaroo in a TV program to me.

Here is the good part ,clever for a kangaroo he could speak and alert the bush rangers to danger

 

[Netzach]

poised between gen X and Y, I would like to point out that "nigga plz" is a phrase which is in the popular lexicon and meant to denote disbelief rather than racial superiority.

My favorite iteration is here.

As to whether this is the most offensive thing ever, YMMV.

You'd have to start chastizing a lot of black kids first over it and then the white kids who are down with them enough to say it and not get their asses kicked completely.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I never took it seriously. I did find it interesting watching the fall out. It was my understanding that the word "nigga" was currently not considered in the same negative context as one might expect?


Fury

True, though for people like Will Smith I think it was I saw being interviewed, if it comes from someone who is white or someone he does not know well regardless of colour or race he considers it as an insult the same as the traditional spelling....then some others I saw interviewed about it on the same programme still viewed the word regardless of spelling as aninsult. The theory on it is like gays reclaiming the word and turning it around into a word of pride...is subjective to one's interpetation I would think. And who could see poor little Skippy as harmless?!!

Catalina

 

[FurryFury]

Thanks Miss Rebecca for the info. See I only read or heard "skippy" in Janet Evanovich's Stephanie Plum series

http://www.amazon.com/Money-Stephanie-Plum-Novels-Paperback/dp/0061009059

which takes place in New Jersey or in Wiseguy the TV show

http://www.amazon.com/Wiseguy-Sonny-Steelgrave-Season-Part/dp/B00009L502

from sometime ago. It was also set in the states somewhere in the north mostly. In those connotations it seemed to me to be used as a sort of friendly insult among buds but not racial as far as I could tell. The meaning seemed to be you're slow and/or goofy. So I thought it was used in a cute but not terrible offensive way in both cases. You truly can learn new things every day.

Fury

 

[Etoile]

I've only ever heard of evil twins called Skippy, like in Doonesbury.

 

[callinectes]

I thought Aeriol's addition to the quote was obvious and meant as sarcastic humor. shrugs

Now for skippy, I've never heard of used as an insult or slur, though I have heard a lot of people say "you're damn skippy" which translates to mean "I couldn't agree more".

 

[Hooper_X]

It was my understanding that the word "nigga" was currently not considered in the same negative context as one might expect?

This is only true if it is said by someone black to someone black whom they know quite well. This is much the same as how an old Jewish man might call another a "cheap kike" or Italian guys may call each other wops, but it wouldn't be at all appropriate for a non-Jew or non-Italian respectively to cross that line... and may well get you fucked-up.

 

[Aeroil]

This is only true if it is said by someone black to someone black whom they know quite well. This is much the same as how an old Jewish man might call another a "cheap kike" or Italian guys may call each other wops, but it wouldn't be at all appropriate for a non-Jew or non-Italian respectively to cross that line... and may well get you fucked-up.

When you're dealing with violent people, a lot of stuff can get you fucked up.

 

[chris9]

Age discrimination! hax

Need a lawyer?

 

[Aeroil]

Phoenix Wright is an ace attorney.

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1463461

 

[FurryFury]

This is only true if it is said by someone black to someone black whom they know quite well. This is much the same as how an old Jewish man might call another a "cheap kike" or Italian guys may call each other wops, but it wouldn't be at all appropriate for a non-Jew or non-Italian respectively to cross that line... and may well get you fucked-up.

I sort of figured that. Thanks for the info. Living in the deep South, I'd never say anything like that. It just isn't done by those of us who follow the rules of polite society.

Fury

 

[Evil_Geoff]

This is only true if it is said by someone black to someone black whom they know quite well. This is much the same as how an old Jewish man might call another a "cheap kike" or Italian guys may call each other wops, but it wouldn't be at all appropriate for a non-Jew or non-Italian respectively to cross that line... and may well get you fucked-up.

Here I would beg to differ.

Either the word is offensive or it is not. The race/religion/gender/orientation of the speaker and the race/religion/gender/orientation of the listener is irrelevant.

The attitude that makes it acceptable for one group to use a word, but not other groups, is, in and of itself, a prejudicial one. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Etoile]

Here I would beg to differ.

Either the word is offensive or it is not. The race/religion/gender/orientation of the speaker and the race/religion/gender/orientation of the listener is irrelevant.

The attitude that makes it acceptable for one group to use a word, but not other groups, is, in and of itself, a prejudicial one. You can't have it both ways.

What about groups making the effort to reclaim words? I can think of a few - bitch, faggot, queer, dyke, cripple, heeb - that I would put into that category.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Here I would beg to differ.

Either the word is offensive or it is not. The race/religion/gender/orientation of the speaker and the race/religion/gender/orientation of the listener is irrelevant.

The attitude that makes it acceptable for one group to use a word, but not other groups, is, in and of itself, a prejudicial one. You can't have it both ways.

Bollocks.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

Still can't have it both ways.

A term is either offensive, or it isn't. If someone "reclaims it", then they refuse to be offended by it regardless of who utters the term. If they only reclaim it for "our people" they are doing nothing but perpetuating the bigotry.

 

[Etoile]

Still can't have it both ways.

A term is either offensive, or it isn't. If someone "reclaims it", then they refuse to be offended by it regardless of who utters the term. If they only reclaim it for "our people" they are doing nothing but perpetuating the bigotry.

Oh, no, I don't know that I agree with that. If I reclaim a word, I'm doing it for its positive meaning. I still retain the right to be offended if someone says it in a negative way. For example, "gay." My wife and I refer to all manner of things as gay - the cats are gay, my mom is gay, etc. But we're not using it in a derogatory way - it's more a term of endearment. We have non-gay friends who use it the same way we do, and that's fine by me. But if somebody uses it as an invective - that's SO gay, as a mild example - then that's not okay with me.

I guess that's what it's about for me: how it's used. If you're going to use the term in a positive or neutral way, that's one thing. And the people who are more likely to use words in positive ways are the people to whom the words apply. Outsiders are less likely to use them positively.

 

[FurryFury]

Here I would beg to differ.

Either the word is offensive or it is not. The race/religion/gender/orientation of the speaker and the race/religion/gender/orientation of the listener is irrelevant.

The attitude that makes it acceptable for one group to use a word, but not other groups, is, in and of itself, a prejudicial one. You can't have it both ways.

That feels like an intuitive truth. Isn't life strange in that for many, it is not true?

Fury

 

[Netzach]

You can't have it both ways.

Sure you can. I know what I mean when I talk about myself being a cheap yid. I also wasn't born yesterday and can tell the difference between a friend who means what I mean and a stranger who means something else.

 

[Aeroil]

Oh, no, I don't know that I agree with that. If I reclaim a word, I'm doing it for its positive meaning. I still retain the right to be offended if someone says it in a negative way. For example, "gay." My wife and I refer to all manner of things as gay - the cats are gay, my mom is gay, etc. But we're not using it in a derogatory way - it's more a term of endearment. We have non-gay friends who use it the same way we do, and that's fine by me. But if somebody uses it as an invective - that's SO gay, as a mild example - then that's not okay with me.

I guess that's what it's about for me: how it's used. If you're going to use the term in a positive or neutral way, that's one thing. And the people who are more likely to use words in positive ways are the people to whom the words apply. Outsiders are less likely to use them positively.

Tone.

 

[O'Mac]

So...











Where all the white women at?

 

[cati]

For clarification purposes only, and yes I'm still lurking. It wasn't that Aeroil used the term "ngga" jokingly, granted that was bad enough...but that people believed that I had actually made that post and Aeroil had indeed saved it. That surprised me and from this I learned how little respect I am given and how little I am thought of here.

In my opinion using the term nigger is usually used jokingly among blacks. In the psot it was used in very bad taste.
ie. a black female co-worker of mine teasingly said "she (me) just called me a nigger" and yes we laughed...she laughed louder tho'
and no I didn't call her a nigger... I might if we were very good friends

PS> Italians would never call each other "wop".

 

[Etoile]

Tone.

Not just tone. Intent, too.

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

For clarification purposes only, and yes I'm still lurking. It wasn't that Aeroil used the term "ngga" jokingly, granted that was bad enough...but that people believed that I had actually made that post and Aeroil had indeed saved it. That surprised me and from this I learned how little respect I am given and how little I am thought of here. Even my idiot of a hubby thought I had done it....definite issues there. We won't be together much longer I can tell you that.

In reference to the bolded part of your post Cati please permit me to state, I for one never did. Which is a fact known by a few other regular members of the Board here.

I stayed out of this at times total travesty of a Thread for reasons of my own.

@}-}rebecca----

 

[FurryFury]

So...











Where all the white women at?

Dunno, I'm a sort of "Heinz 57" type myself. *snickers*

Italians won't call each other wop Cati? That's interesting. I certainly heard it used around my Sicilian family members in New Orleans often enough when I was growing up.

Fury

 

[Aeroil]

Not just tone. Intent, too.

You can't always tell somebody's intent, tone mirrors that.
if my intent is to mock you and I agree in a normal tone, obviously I'm not making my intent known to you. If my intent is to mock you and I agree in Image macro form, then that's an excellent use of tone to show my intent.

Example:

I feel very sad for you....