What next? How do we build a better America?

[Nicefella]

Award for stupidest comment of the day

I think it makes better sense to day that the federal government has no place in regulating abortion. States do and RvW was just waiting to get overturned. Everyone in the room knew it and anticipated its eventual demise.

Everyone - Except obviously the intellectual heavyweights in this lit space.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

There is nothing MAGA about that common sense assertion. Use your noodle instead for feeding us the slop that you hear from others that are trying to fool you.

They are so far gone in certain lines of thinking (HSR and climate issues in general) that they can’t even see the hard facts and data in front of them. If California can’t even put a HSR boondoggle into practice then how do they expect 47 more individual states to follow suit?

Besides. Why build a $135 Billion HSR line, when you can take a SouthWest 737 from San Fran to LA for $104?

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

HSR in California has not been scrapped. It's just going very slowly, costs way over budget, and funding hard to come by.

Go back and reread…I edited it.

 

[Nicefella]

I’d rather the feds subsidize the airline industry and make regional flights more accessible in larger states.

 

[Bn2f]

“First” world nations are the size of Illinois at best. They’re not over 3k…not even close. France is 18 times smaller than the U.S. Germany is 28 times smaller. Easy to do when you’re small and subsidized.

Exactly. And France and Germany are not perfect.

Hold up!
You 2 idiots start off sayin France and Germany are comparable to Illinois and then immediately start comparing them to the whole of the United States.

 

[Lost_Writer01]

I’d rather the feds subsidize the airline industry and make regional flights more accessible in larger states.

In the Uk, we have a terrible rail network - massively expensive and inadequate. Now regional flights have dropped off too due to demand (we’re a small country afterall), pushing privatised rail prices up considerably. Regional flights are essential in my experience across America.

 

[Politruk]

“First” world nations are the size of Illinois at best. They’re not over 3k…not even close. France is 18 times smaller than the U.S. Germany is 28 times smaller. Easy to do when you’re small and subsidized.

You sound like someone in the early 19th Century, arguing that this new steam-engine railway thing is fine for little England but would never work for American distances.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

I’d rather the feds subsidize the airline industry and make regional flights more accessible in larger states.

The problem with that is we went through Deregulation in the early 80’s. I don’t see us revisiting that anytime soon. It was nice then, but ticket prices were high because they linked Little Rock to Pigs Knuckle.

I’d also, in a perfect world, like to ride the Choo-Choo across my state, but alas those days are gone.

They ain’t coming back either.

 

[Bn2f]

I’d rather the feds subsidize the airline industry and make regional flights more accessible in larger states.

I’m trying to stay joyful today.
This brings me joy!
A conservative/trumper asking the federal government to help subsidize something! Too funny! TY!

 

[Politruk]

In the Uk, we have a terrible rail network - massively expensive and inadequate. Now regional flights have dropped off too due to demand (we’re a small country afterall), pushing privatised rail prices up considerably. Regional flights are essential in my experience across America.

Maybe you should nationalize it.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

You sound like someone in the early 19th Century, arguing that this new steam-engine railway thing is fine for little England but would never work for American distances.

Nobody said that…ever. Now go educate yourself about the economics of HSR. You can start with the link I posted upstream.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Hold up!
You 2 idiots start off sayin France and Germany are comparable to Illinois and then immediately start comparing them to the whole of the United States.

No you fucking idiot. I was refuting what another of you true believers tried to push. Mainly why there will never be Coast to Coast HSR. Please try and stay focused…i know it’s hard for you.

 

[Politruk]

Misconceptions about high-speed rails:

• Some people who live near public transportation in general and high-speed railways in particular will oppose the project and insist that their land will depreciate.[51] Such arguments are feeble, because being within proximity to a train station is obviously convenient. Property prices will likely go up, not down.[52]

• HSR requires a huge upfront investment (just like highways built from scratch) and as such it is "socialist."[53] High-speed trains are certainly expensive, but come with numerous advantages, as explained above. The investment will pay off in the long run. Giving people more choices is anything but "socialist."
• China has it. And Europe. Therefore it is bad.[54]
• Unlike high-speed rail, cars bring freedom.[55] Although cars allows one to travel at almost complete free will, this argument shoots itself in the foot as high-speed trains in the right places actually increase people's freedom to travel. Moreover, car drivers need to worry about car insurance, congestion, and traffic collisions, train riders do not. However, car drivers do not need to follow someone else's schedule.
• High Speed Rail is elitist.[56] If people are willing and able to travel by planes, there is fundamentally no reason why they should not travel by train, which can be quite affordable and convenient, depending on location.
• In some places (e.g. Australia) the market is so grossly distorted that it is cheaper to send freight by road. (Australia moved away from using rail because of bandits.) Taxpayers bear the cost of the increased damage to roads and higher fatalities to send freight via a less efficient and more costly method. The toll operators have some pretty slick representation, too.

 

[Bn2f]

No you fucking idiot. I was refuting what another of you true believers tried to push. Mainly why there will never be Coast to Coast HSR. Please try and stay focused…i know it’s hard for you.

IDC on anything you say.
Truth be told I hardly read your posts when I choose to send you a reply.
I really, really just like insulting you in particular and I can do so fearlessly on almost any subject matter because I know you’re a douche who don’t know crap and when the rubber hits the road will run away scared.

Lol. What is HSR anyway???

 

[Escierto]

We need to divide this shit hole into about six to nine small countries that are responsive to the wishes of their citizens. Half of them would be dystopian nightmares but then that's Mississippi for you!

 

[Bn2f]

No you fucking idiot. I was refuting what another of you true believers tried to push. Mainly why there will never be Coast to Coast HSR. Please try and stay focused…i know it’s hard for you.

Haha!
This thread is an aspirational one asking for wishes for the future. You arguing the viability of HSR is moot. BSG already has a separate thread for that anyway.
Lol. One day it will come back to bite me in the ass for not reading what you write. It’s not gonna be today though.

 

[TrailerHitch]

The return of th Fairness Dextrin, abolished under the Reagan Administration, which argued the public airspace was a. common good so if you editorialized in one direction. (like Fox) then you had to givee equal and opposite time to the opposing point of view.

Or cnn, msnbc, ABC, NBC, or CBS

 

[TrailerHitch]

We need to divide this shit hole into about six to nine small countries that are responsive to the wishes of their citizens. Half of them would be dystopian nightmares but then that's Mississippi for you!

I've said it to you before and will again now, if you hate this country so much leave. I'm sure the Phillipines and your girl friend would be happy to have you.

 

[icanhelp1]

LOL. The thread topic was "how do we build a better America?" and then you immediately negate the question with your condition and assumptions. But let's put that to one side and assume neither Harris nor Trump, and just run with "how do we build a better America?" regardless.

Economic
(1) Kill anything to do with global free trade and make sure we have tariff imports
(2) Break up the large chains like Walmart, etc that had killed local small businesses. Ditto pharmacy chains, food processing, gas station chains, agricultural - legislate family owned farms for example, fisheries) etc. Structure ourselves to support small businesses to the greatest extent possible
(3) Simplify tax laws. Set an inflation adjusted limit on Federal taxes where anything less is taxfree, bring in a goods and services tax and a 5% flat tax, no exemptions for anything. States can tax whatever the fuck they want. Competition will sort it out.
(4) High speed rail between major nodes
(5) Anything to do with space exploration and expansion is tax free.
(6) No Federal subsidies for industry, agriculture, business, EV's, nuclear power, solar power. Only encouragement Feds can give is tax exemption. Nothing else. Nada. Zippo. Zero. States can if they want. Competition between States will sort that one out.
(6a) Any subsidized imports get the fuck tariffed out of them.
(7) Stop trying to tax corporate profit. Straight Goods and Services tax on all transactions. Any corporation tries to pull a dodge, immediate 100% penalty, and if they shift jobs offshore, their US assets are confiscated and auctioned off). Make it profitable to pay a small % of tax.

Political
(1) Deport ALL illegals. Any legal immigrant who's not a citizen commits a crime, deport w/all family members. Instantly. No appeal. Jail for anyone assisting illegals in any way.
(1a) bring in the Swiss model where no immigrant can become a citizen unless their (American citizen) neighbors and co-workers within an immediate area agree. If they opt to apply for citizenship and their neighbors vote against them, they get deported instantly. Tough shit. Assimilate or leave.
(2) 2nd Amendment nationally, no State exceptions. No quibbling over details. Anyone allowed to own anything up to tanks, artillery and missiles. On the other hand, commit any serious crime involving firearms and hello, 20 years in behind bars. No exceptions, no parole. With rights comes responsibility.
2(a) Firearms training in all schools. Everyone who turns 21 is issued a military rifle and handgun and gets free military range shooting once a month with ammo and instruction supplied
2(b) Castle doctrine / Stand your ground laws apply federally. No weaseling out, no gotchas, no fucking around.
(3) Mandatory Voter ID. Consistent electoral roll mtce by non-political state agencies. Paper voting.
(4) Break up states into homogenous units. Divorce the large cities from rural areas.
(5) Close down 90% of Federal Agencies. They serve no useful purpose. Close down most federal funding for anything. States can and should do it.
(6) Voluntary military service, and restrict voting to those who have served in the military. ("The Heinlein Plan").
(6a) Veterans have preference for ALL Federal and State publicly funded jobs and in important professions like teaching.
(7) Term limits
(8) Constitutional amendment to fix the # of judges in the SCOTUS
(9) Cancel the ability of the Federal Govt to borrow money.
(10) No tax-based funding, direct or indirect, of NGO's, Aid Organizations, Political Organizations or International Organizations. If peoples want to help, they can donate their own money and it ain't tax-exempt (see, no tax dodges)
(11) Kick out the UN and defund them (from our money anyhow).
(12) Audit the fuck out of politicians and public servants. Any politician found guilty of corruption / bribery / theft / whatever, has all their assets confiscated. ALL.

Social
(1) Fix the frigging health system with a public/private model and some sort of basic national health insurance plan that's funded out of taxation and managed state by state
(2) Education: school voucher system nationally, w/ public education funded on the same basis as private. Parents choice.....
(3) First Amendment applies: say whatever the fuck you want. No social media policing.
(4) Murder. Rape. Pedophilia. Mandatory death sentences, w/strict rules on evidence. Make the punishments match the crimes.
(5) Encourage private home ownership thru legislation and tax assistance
(6) Encourage families likewise, but income based - we want the middle classes having kids, not the poor
(7) Bring back involuntary committal / psychiatric hospitals
(8) No Federal Student loans. States can do whatever the fuck they want, but it's on their dime.
(9) Ban plastic anythings w/regard to food and retail packaging. NO plastic. Nada. Every package and container must be recyclable - glass / cardboard / paper, with a recycling deposit
(10) Accident Compensation - % of every transactions goods and services tax is accident compensation and no fault insurance - do away with right to sue for scalding coffee or idocy - if you have an accident the levy covers all health and medical payments, along with diabsility payments etc which pays a fair living wage based on your taxable income averaged over last 5 years or something. And in return, to bad, you can't sue for damages or whatever.
It's a start......

Add to your list all politicians have at least a 7 year wait period before becoming a lobbyist.

 

[icanhelp1]

They are so far gone in certain lines of thinking (HSR and climate issues in general) that they can’t even see the hard facts and data in front of them. If California can’t even put a HSR boondoggle into practice then how do they expect 47 more individual states to follow suit?

Besides. Why build a $135 Billion HSR line, when you can take a SouthWest 737 from San Fran to LA for $104?

The reason why a HSR is not achievable is because the federal government over-regulates everything.

 

[RoryN]

The reason why a HSR is not achievable is because the federal government over-regulates everything.

all those black daddies living by the 4 fs ( find them, feel them, fuck them, forget them ).

Post in thread 'The real badbabysitter finally revealed..' https://forum.literotica.com/threads/the-real-badbabysitter-finally-revealed.1504564/post-90980000

blacks have a higher propensity of violence than all races combined.

Post in thread 'If America Is Racist, Why Have Millions of Blacks Emigrated Here?' https://forum.literotica.com/thread...f-blacks-emigrated-here.1547263/post-93907526

I wouldn’t even think of walking a predominately black neighborhood, wouldn’t end well.

Post in thread 'White Officers in Minority Communities' https://forum.literotica.com/threads/white-officers-in-minority-communities.1525284/post-92435953

 

[Lazaran]

Agreed. We can build more local rail and bike lanes while also building long-haul high-speed rail. Stop spending money on freeways, stop providing drivers with free parking. Car dependency will wither and die if we stop subsidizing it.

Car dependency will never wither and die, because people want / need the ability to bug out at a moments notice in case of some natural or man-made disaster. (And people want / need the timely travel independence personal transportation offers).

JMTCW.

 

[TrailerHitch]

They are so far gone in certain lines of thinking (HSR and climate issues in general) that they can’t even see the hard facts and data in front of them. If California can’t even put a HSR boondoggle into practice then how do they expect 47 more individual states to follow suit?

Besides. Why build a $135 Billion HSR line, when you can take a SouthWest 737 from San Fran to LA for $104?

California and 47 other states? Last I checked we had 50 states. Did 2 secede from the Union with no hoopla and fanfare?

 

[Politruk]

The reason why a HSR is not achievable is because the federal government over-regulates everything.

There is HSR in several countries that are by no means less regulatory than the U.S.

 

[Politruk]

California and 47 other states? Last I checked we had 50 states. Did 2 secede from the Union with no hoopla and fanfare?

Wyoming and North Dakota. You haven't heard because nobody cares.