Where Are We?

[Mac98]

My own personal anger is irrelevant. If, in the end, I had to stay miserable for the rest of my life in order for the rest of the world to start functioning correctly like it ought to (I'm talking hypothetically here) then why not? But if I'm to stay miserable in a miserable world, then perhaps you're right. I just don't see the point into conning myself into being happy, quite honestly.

I feel my anger is greatly justified. I'm not pissed off for the sake of being pissed off. I'm mad cuz I'm sick of looking around me and seeing hypocrits bitch and moan about their little aches and pains when in reality, they have no idea what pain really is and will usually come to you for help and disappear as soon as you need them there for you. Like I said, not everyone is like this, but the vast majority are.

Maybe if the US became one of the poorest countries in the world where militants tortured their own people would we start to recognize how much things HAVE to change and that by everyone staying secluded and looking out for numero uno, we'll never achieve anything.

But I appologize. I really had no clue that the idea of unity would bother so many people.

 

[bailadora]

I just feel like making the world into a tollerable and habitable place would seem like a normal thing for people to want to fight for... but maybe that's just me. <snip> The reality is that no one gives a fuck. And that, to me, is majorly depressing.

And that is just utter bollocks. Normal, everyday people do give a fuck and do want to make the world a better place. There are countless unsung heroes helping out in soup kitchens, homeless shelters, Habitat for Humanity, health/mental clinics (here and across the world), literacy programs, youth outreach programs....you name it and there's mostly likely someone volunteering somewhere in some capacity.

I'm all for minor changes. But they're useless in the long run.

This is YOUR opinion. You think the world is a shit hole now? How much worse do you think it would be if everyone shared your mentality and just sat around on their asses because small acts mean "nothing" and are "useless"? I, for one am eternally grateful more people don't share your viewpoint and carry on regardless of how much someone else may cavalierly dismiss their efforts.

It's like beauty and love have become taboo and fiction.

This, too, is utter bollocks. I've shared the heart singing joy of an illiterate child being able to finally read and witnessed the heartbreaking beauty of a nurse sacrificing her free time to help ease a dying patient and comfort a grieving family. There is beauty and love to be found all around, but if all you look for is the negative, you won't ever be open to seeing the positive.

Is it really just me ??

Yes. The only person you can control is yourself and it's up to you to decide whether or not to join the very people you are bitching about (the ones who don't give a fuck and do nothing) or to get up off your ass and try to make a difference, no matter how small or insignificant it may seem to you.

 

[fuckmeat]

Seek help for your anger...You need it. It is expressed in so many of your threads.

Seconded.

I've seen a few of your threads and you're in a very very bad place emotionally. You have anger issues but they go deep. You are an extremely unhappy person and you've lost perspective. You've lost hope and you're spiralling. I don't know you as a person but from your posts? You need professional therapy. You need far far more than a thread like this can possibly offer you.

You may or may not have seen the stuff I've posted about my life around here. Believe me when I tell you that I know about losing hope. Some holes you just can't dig your way out of alone. My PM box will always be open to you but you need help.

Please do whatever it takes to access actual, professional, one-to-one therapy.

 

[NippleMuncher]

But I appologize. I really had no clue that the idea of unity would bother so many people.

Seriously?

 

[Mac98]

This is YOUR opinion. You think the world is a shit hole now? How much worse do you think it would be if everyone shared your mentality and just sat around on their asses because small acts mean "nothing" and are "useless"? I, for one am eternally grateful more people don't share your viewpoint and carry on regardless of how much someone else may cavalierly dismiss their efforts.

I've repeated again and again that some is better than none but it'll never be enough. I generalize because *most* people do absolutely nothing to help out and that seems to be the more popular trend nowadays. If people shared my mentality, people would stop looking out for themselves only and start joining together to fight for a better world. I don't see how that would make the world worse. In fact, I think it would probably play a huge role in making the world as perfect as it can get.

This, too, is utter bollocks. I've shared the heart singing joy of an illiterate child being able to finally read and witnessed the heartbreaking beauty of a nurse sacrificing her free time to help ease a dying patient and comfort a grieving family. There is beauty and love to be found all around, but if all you look for is the negative, you won't ever be open to seeing the positive.

There is potential for so much beauty in this world. Simple joys we tend to take for granted like music, rainbows, sunny summer mornings, birds singing. I see it and cherish it. What pisses me off is that this is MY reality. This isn't the rest of the world's. Why would I content myself of being happy when no one else is? How can you tell someone who lost his whole family and witnessed his people murdered to just "see the positive things in life"? I'm not saying I've been through this, but to those who have, how is that fair? How is that even possible? Why try and concentrate on the little joys in life instead of turning this world into one big ball of love and happiness?

Yes. The only person you can control is yourself and it's up to you to decide whether or not to join the very people you are bitching about (the ones who don't give a fuck and do nothing) or to get up off your ass and try to make a difference, no matter how small or insignificant it may seem to you.

But then what's the use in helping people who don't want to be helped or that aren't willing to pay it forward? What's the point in being sucked dry of my energy so someone can benefit selfishly from it. The goal is to eliminate that and let people pay it forward and start collectively joining arms and trying to achieve a greater, more fulfilling goal.

Seconded.

I've seen a few of your threads and you're in a very very bad place emotionally. You have anger issues but they go deep. You are an extremely unhappy person and you've lost perspective. You've lost hope and you're spiralling. I don't know you as a person but from your posts? You need professional therapy. You need far far more than a thread like this can possibly offer you.

You may or may not have seen the stuff I've posted about my life around here. Believe me when I tell you that I know about losing hope. Some holes you just can't dig your way out of alone. My PM box will always be open to you but you need help.

Please do whatever it takes to access actual, professional, one-to-one therapy.

I'm not big on therapists. I've never met a therapist that I liked or that I thought was genuine in wanting to help. I ask myself "If I didn't pay them, would they still be willing to help me?" The answer always ends up being "no". They don't usually give a shit about you. They want your money and in return they'll pull out their text book and try and 'evaluate' you and fit you into a mold of what it is that's wrong with you.

Sure, I probably need therapy. Yet who doesn't? You feel I have anger issues (which I most certainly do), I feel everyone else needs therapy. Who's right and who's wrong?

Seriously?

Yes. I didn't post this to start pissing people off. I naively believed people would think that an abolishment of selfishness would be a good idea. Tss! Silly me!

 

[coastal-boy]

I'm not big on therapists. I've never met a therapist that I liked or that I thought was genuine in wanting to help. I ask myself "If I didn't pay them, would they still be willing to help me?" The answer always ends up being "no". They don't usually give a shit about you. They want your money and in return they'll pull out their text book and try and 'evaluate' you and fit you into a mold of what it is that's wrong with you.

Sure, I probably need therapy. Yet who doesn't? You feel I have anger issues (which I most certainly do), I feel everyone else needs therapy. Who's right and who's wrong?

Yes. I didn't post this to start pissing people off. I naively believed people would think that an abolishment of selfishness would be a good idea. Tss! Silly me!

I'm not sorry I don't see the world through your negative eyes. You have been given guidance repeatedly here (I don't call that selfish behavior)...you don't want it. You make excuses and constantly take the harder path. Who's fault is that?

It is your life. Be miserable. That is your choice. Stop blaming others for your unhappiness. Your choices are your life. It really is this simple.

Who's right? Who's wrong? The happy person is right. The person who is content with whom they are is right. At least they know what is right FOR THEM.

 

[culloden]

Selfishness isn't all bad. We all need to take sometimes in order to live and be happy. It's okay. But most people I know balance that with kindness. Both qualities exist in most people.

You get what you measure. What is it you're looking to measure to support your thesis? Happiness? Or misery?

Frankly, I think you like the attention you get from being miserable. As John Prine said, "Stop wishing for bad luck and knocking on wood."

 

[Mac98]

I'm not sorry I don't see the world through your negative eyes. You have been given guidance repeatedly here (I don't call that selfish behavior)...you don't want it. You make excuses and constantly take the harder path. Who's fault is that?

It is your life. Be miserable. That is your choice. Stop blaming others for your unhappiness. Your choices are your life. It really is this simple.

Who's right? Who's wrong? The happy person is right. The person who is content with whom they are is right. At least they know what is right FOR THEM.

Of course you don't see the world through my negative eyes. I'm sure you get three meals in a day and have a roof over your head every night. I'm not saying life sucks, I'm saying this world is heading down the worst possible path and I, for one, am sick of watching it go down. But apparently the problem is me. I didn't write this looking for advice on how to be happy, I wrote it to express my anger. Maybe I didn't post it at the right place... I honestly didn't think it would stir this much opposition.

Selfishness isn't all bad. We all need to take sometimes in order to live and be happy. It's okay. But most people I know balance that with kindness. Both qualities exist in most people.

You get what you measure. What is it you're looking to measure to support your thesis? Happiness? Or misery?

Frankly, I think you like the attention you get from being miserable. As John Prine said, "Stop wishing for bad luck and knocking on wood."

Oh! You have no idea how much I feed off that attention. Heck it practically gets me off. Being angry has really worked for me thus far. Doesn't it show?

You're right. Some people balance out with kindness, but not most people. Most people are downright selfish. Sure, they might let you cut in front of them when driving from time to time, but overall, they won't sacrifice anything for the sake of someone else's well-being... or very rarely will they. A perfect example of this is going out to a shopping mall during boxing day. Notice how many people seem genuinely happy and how many of them will stand for someone cutting in line.

I'm not looking to measure anything. There IS no thesis. It's what it is. No matter how much you view the world through rose-colored glasses, the fact remains that it's a dirty place. However, I've learned bitching about will be futile. I'd be better to shut my yap and let the happy people be happy and the broken people be broken. I'll think of myself first and if I have time to help someone else who's struggling, then I'll consider MAYBE saying "Tss! Don't be so negative! Gosh!"

 

[culloden]

I suppose that me looking at the world through rose colored glasses is one explanation. But here's the thing. Given what seems to be our relative degrees of satisfaction with life, I'd posit instead that you view the world through black tinted glasses.

We've talked before. Several times. And I'm minded of the saying, "The only common denominator in all your problems is you."

FuckMeat is right. You really need to talk to a pro. And in response to your previous objection to that, what possible difference does it make whether a therapist actually cares about you, or if they're in it for the money? (And it is possible for both to be true) That's no more important than whether your plumber is your buddy. You aren't hiring them to be your friend. You're hiring them for a task - In this case, to help you figure out how to be happy.

 

[coastal-boy]

Of course you don't see the world through my negative eyes. I'm sure you get three meals in a day and have a roof over your head every night. I'm not saying life sucks, I'm saying this world is heading down the worst possible path and I, for one, am sick of watching it go down. But apparently the problem is me. I didn't write this looking for advice on how to be happy, I wrote it to express my anger. Maybe I didn't post it at the right place... I honestly didn't think it would stir this much opposition.

Jared Loughner was angry.

You say "I'm saying this world is heading down the worst possible path and I, for one, am sick of watching it go down".

You admit you are filled with anger.

You admit you have a history of violence.

You admit you are talking irrationally.

You say you wanted to "express your anger" and yet all it has done is make you more angry because people didn't relate the way you intended. Personally, I think your perception is all screwed up. Anger does that. It bends reality. You are making it sound like you are a victim, therefore fuck it. Well, fuck it is a shitty place to be and bad things can happen there.

 

[fuckmeat]

What prompted you to start this thread Mac? Something must have happened to really upset you.

 

[fuckmeat]

what possible difference does it make whether a therapist actually cares about you, or if they're in it for the money? (And it is possible for both to be true) That's no more important than whether your plumber is your buddy. You aren't hiring them to be your friend. You're hiring them for a task - In this case, to help you figure out how to be happy.

Quoted for truth and emphasis.

 

[fuckmeat]

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[coastal-boy]

What prompted you to start this thread Mac? Something must have happened to really upset you.

that really is the key question as I see it. I've seen his explanations so far and I don't buy it. It was something deeper. He took alot of time and effort to put his words down, but all that showed was his discouragement and disillusionment. It is lonely where he is and I feel for him. Anger consumes everything if one is not well grounded.

 

[SweetErika]

I've read the thread and there are tons of great ideas here.

My question for you, Mac, is: what measurable things are you doing to make the world a better place? Actions speak louder than words, and a movement starts with one person.

If you're not doing much, maybe doing more would help you channel your feelings into something positive. I think that's true for everyone, BTW; service is a huge part of self-esteem and happiness.

 

[Mac98]

I suppose that me looking at the world through rose colored glasses is one explanation. But here's the thing. Given what seems to be our relative degrees of satisfaction with life, I'd posit instead that you view the world through black tinted glasses.

We've talked before. Several times. And I'm minded of the saying, "The only common denominator in all your problems is you."

FuckMeat is right. You really need to talk to a pro. And in response to your previous objection to that, what possible difference does it make whether a therapist actually cares about you, or if they're in it for the money? (And it is possible for both to be true) That's no more important than whether your plumber is your buddy. You aren't hiring them to be your friend. You're hiring them for a task - In this case, to help you figure out how to be happy.

I've got trust issues. I don't open up very easily to people I'm in direct contact with because to often have weaknesses been used against me (even by a therapist). That's why unless someone genuinely wants to help and I feel are trustworthy, then ok. But therapists don't have my trust. At all.

And maybe I'm the common denominator and perhaps I view the world through black tinted glasses, but I'm pretty sure that what it comes down to is where you were born and raised and how lucky you were to have been born american (and I don't mean YOU specifically cuz I don't know any of your background). I cherish your advice, Culloden, cuz you've always been a lot of help in the past, but I have to disagree in this case. I'm minded of the verse:

"I've stared at stars for nights on end
And questioned time and time again.
But the more I question, the more I know
God left this place a long time ago."

Jared Loughner was angry.

You say "I'm saying this world is heading down the worst possible path and I, for one, am sick of watching it go down".

You admit you are filled with anger.

You admit you have a history of violence.

You admit you are talking irrationally.

You say you wanted to "express your anger" and yet all it has done is make you more angry because people didn't relate the way you intended. Personally, I think your perception is all screwed up. Anger does that. It bends reality. You are making it sound like you are a victim, therefore fuck it. Well, fuck it is a shitty place to be and bad things can happen there.

Let's not mince words. I don't have a history of violence. I've had two occasions where anger's gotten the better of me. In 20+ years, I don't think 2 occasions can count as "a history of violence". I'm enraged and yes, anger has been a more recurring emotion in the past couple of months, but I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm an angry person with angry skin and angry bones. I'm not angrier than I was to see no one agrees with anything I'm trying to say. I'm just more disappointed and feel hopeless for a brighter tomorrow. I doubt things'll ever get better for everyone. I find that sad more than I find it maddening.

And please! I'm no victim. In fact, quite the opposite. I'm trying to get a message across to those who think only of themselves. I would sacrifice my happiness if the rest of the world could live in serenity and peace. In fact, I'd probably give my life for it if it could be achieved now and for generations to come. I have an unstable-stable life like most Americans. I'm not a victim. I go through things every normal joe goes through, I'm just angry to know that this is really as good as it gets.

What prompted you to start this thread Mac? Something must have happened to really upset you.

It's not someTHING. It's somethingS. It's an accumulation of things. Isn't that always how anger works? It builds up and builds up til it just explodes and let's loose?

I've read the thread and there are tons of great ideas here.

My question for you, Mac, is: what measurable things are you doing to make the world a better place? Actions speak louder than words, and a movement starts with one person.

If you're not doing much, maybe doing more would help you channel your feelings into something positive. I think that's true for everyone, BTW; service is a huge part of self-esteem and happiness.

This is the corner I'm stuck in. I feel like whatever I do it'll never be enough cuz not enough of us are doing it. Collectively, SO much can be achieved, but no one seems to want to join arms and this is what I'm trying to get across. I don't understand why not. Apparently it's asking too much which I wasn't aware it was till I posted this.

I do small things to try and help out, but I know it's not nearly enough. To the point that I even feel guilty most of the time because I feel people need more help than what I'm doing or offering.

 

[SweetErika]

This is the corner I'm stuck in. I feel like whatever I do it'll never be enough cuz not enough of us are doing it. Collectively, SO much can be achieved, but no one seems to want to join arms and this is what I'm trying to get across. I don't understand why not. Apparently it's asking too much which I wasn't aware it was till I posted this.

I do small things to try and help out, but I know it's not nearly enough. To the point that I even feel guilty most of the time because I feel people need more help than what I'm doing or offering.

There are people doing stuff and joining arms all over the place. Go take a look at your local soup kitchen, homeless shelter, food bank, Humane Society, grassroots and even political organizations. How do you think we got an African American into the most prominent position in the world? Whether you're an Obama supporter or hater, it's pretty incredible how people of all persuasions joined together to get out the word, fund his campaign, vote, etc.

But not many people are willing to get behind an angry 20 year old who's just complaining that no one's doing enough. And you're complaining in the wrong place, because guess what? Most of us are already doing more than our share to improve our communities and the world.

 

[NippleMuncher]

I for one have no more positive things to input to this conversation, so ... Mac, for what it's worth, enjoy life.

It's time to do what Mac suggests, we all need to collectively stop feeding his need for anger and negativity and quit posting in this thread. There is nothing that hasn't been said or that can be said that will change his perspective.

 

[bailadora]

I didn't post this to start pissing people off. I naively believed people would think that an abolishment of selfishness would be a good idea. Tss! Silly me!

Here's what you are not seeing: those who think the abolishment of selfishness is a good idea are ALREADY out there working for the greater good. They're not sitting on their asses, letting the possibility that someone MIGHT be a user stop them from trying to make this world a better place. And then you come along with this horseshit about how their efforts are really nice gestures and all, but aren't nearly enough to affect any real change. What the fuck kind of message is that? Positive outcomes are very rarely the product of negative input, Mac, and that's what's "pissed" everyone off.

But then what's the use in helping people who don't want to be helped or that aren't willing to pay it forward?

If someone is being a lazy bastard or doesn't want help, then the only thing you can do is sincerely wish them well, move on and focus your energies where they will be accepted, appreciated and can contribute to the greater good. You can't change someone who does not want to change. Kind of like you and this thread. Nip is right. People have tried to offer you a different perspective and reasoning for their motivation, but you are dedicated to your point of view and nothing we have said or can say is going to budge you from it. In that light, I wish you well and pray that somewhere, somehow you will achieve the peace you are seeking.

 

[Mac98]

Here's what you are not seeing: those who think the abolishment of selfishness is a good idea are ALREADY out there working for the greater good. They're not sitting on their asses, letting the possibility that someone MIGHT be a user stop them from trying to make this world a better place. And then you come along with this horseshit about how their efforts are really nice gestures and all, but aren't nearly enough to affect any real change. What the fuck kind of message is that? Positive outcomes are very rarely the product of negative input, Mac, and that's what's "pissed" everyone off.

So what you're saying is that the people who feel we need to unite are a very VERY slim minority and the larger majority of people don't really give a rat's ass? Is that not the point I've been trying to make this whole time? And you're not seeing what my message is. In fact, it's like none of you are. I'm not saying we should all stop making kind gestures cuz it's useless, I'm saying we ALL should start doing them so we can start changing things more radically. I'm not saying "It's all hopeless, let's drop a bomb and end it all." What I'm saying is "Fuck! Why aren't we doing anything??" You'd think that 10,000+ years into our evolved existence we would start to try and make the world a better place and try to change our flaws into qualities.

And I agree with Nip too. If you've said all you've had to say, you don't have to keep responding to this thread. I think we can Let It Die. You've all made your point.

 

[coastal-boy]

And you're not seeing what my message is. In fact, it's like none of you are.

No one shows any "kindness" anymore Life sucks We should all be so much kinder given 100,000 yrs of evolution No one cares No one is doing anything I can't do this alone... Your beliefs are irrational I'm surrounded by hypocrits Why aren't "we" doing anything? Fuck, people...don't you see it?


Did I miss your "message"?

 

[culloden]

The trouble with giving up selfishness and uniting is that those are merely catch phrases that people throw around to feel good about themselves. It's not what anyone wants, really, unless they get to decide what's selfish and what's the common cause. Have you really thought about what those words mean? Read Orwell. Read Huxley. Read Rand. Read T. H. White and Aristotle.

Everyone here is selfish, to a greater or larger degree. Hell, if they weren't, they'd have spent the resources it took to buy the computer they're using to feed starving Somalians and we wouldn't be having this conversation. In fact, they'd have used for others every resource they have beyond what's needed for survival.

Alright, I've taken the definition of selfishness ad absurdum. But if you don't use the definition literally, then you have to assign someone to be the arbiter of selfishness. Who do you trust to do that? Who is anyone else to tell me or you what to do with what we have earned? When you don't get to decide what to do with the fruits of your own labor, when someone else decides that for you, you have become a slave.

Similarly, the trouble with uniting is the question of who gets to decide what we're uniting behind? We aren't ants who come to a DNA driven consensus. I'm not willing to subsume my individuality to someone else's idea of a common cause. And I doubt you would, either. At least I hope you wouldn't. If you would, you're simply a reed in the wind.

 

[newlegz]

Where are we?

Where are we??

Earth.

What are we?

Human Beings.

Just so you know...

 

[Mac98]

No one shows any "kindness" anymore Life sucks We should all be so much kinder given 100,000 yrs of evolution No one cares No one is doing anything I can't do this alone... Your beliefs are irrational I'm surrounded by hypocrits Why aren't "we" doing anything? Fuck, people...don't you see it?


Did I miss your "message"?

Clearly.

The trouble with giving up selfishness and uniting is that those are merely catch phrases that people throw around to feel good about themselves. It's not what anyone wants, really, unless they get to decide what's selfish and what's the common cause. Have you really thought about what those words mean? Read Orwell. Read Huxley. Read Rand. Read T. H. White and Aristotle.

Everyone here is selfish, to a greater or larger degree. Hell, if they weren't, they'd have spent the resources it took to buy the computer they're using to feed starving Somalians and we wouldn't be having this conversation. In fact, they'd have used for others every resource they have beyond what's needed for survival.

Alright, I've taken the definition of selfishness ad absurdum. But if you don't use the definition literally, then you have to assign someone to be the arbiter of selfishness. Who do you trust to do that? Who is anyone else to tell me or you what to do with what we have earned? When you don't get to decide what to do with the fruits of your own labor, when someone else decides that for you, you have become a slave.

Similarly, the trouble with uniting is the question of who gets to decide what we're uniting behind? We aren't ants who come to a DNA driven consensus. I'm not willing to subsume my individuality to someone else's idea of a common cause. And I doubt you would, either. At least I hope you wouldn't. If you would, you're simply a reed in the wind.

I'm not going to argue the definition of "selfishness" or what it means to me cuz that'll bring us on a whole 'nother topic and I think people are already exhausted with just this one, but I will ask you, however, whether it's better, for the sake of our "freedom of choice" to ignore what's going on in other countries rather than to unite and help our fellow man? You're right. I won't force you to do anything and no one should. If mature enough, people should have the common sense to WANT to help out. There is a system in place where, whether we admit it or not, ONE man decides in what direction YOUR country is going in (well, this one man is told by many other wealthy men what to do, but that's another story too) and we, like slaves, have no choice but to accept whatever this one man chooses for us. Is that not what you just finished saying you didn't want happening?

This "democracy" is a total falacy. The only decision you get is which person, among two options, will end up choosing FOR you in the next 4 years... and even then, many people are starting to question how much their vote actually counts for.

If we all remain individuals then this will keep going on till we become full-blown sheep being dictated completely. At that point, I'm sure they'll have conned us all into believing we're free anyways!

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'm not aloof either to what's going on here and all over the world. I'm pissed off about it and I expressed it in my post. I'm as guilty as the next man, but it tears me up inside that while I'm sitting here expressing this anger, with every word I type, some kid is dying of AIDS, hunger, torture, etc. Just because we can't see it, it doesn't mean it's not happening. The only way, I repeat: THE ONLY WAY to reverse the dammage being done is for everyone to start working together. Otherwise, you're conscience better be bulletproof.

If anyone feels attacked, I apologize. I never pretended that I'm not part of the problem but I'm sick of seeing where we are and where we're heading. We have the luxury to have been born in a "rich" country (or continent, I should say) but reality is that we're a minority. And even WE aren't totally free like we could and should be. The rich get richer and the poor die trying.

You guys are free to perceive what I'm saying as utterly pessimistic and negative but I prefer thinking of it as someone sick of seeing his fellow man fall and having no power to do anything about it. If I'm pessimistic, it's cause the whole damn world is not where it should be at.

 

[SweetErika]

So what you're saying is that the people who feel we need to unite are a very VERY slim minority and the larger majority of people don't really give a rat's ass? Is that not the point I've been trying to make this whole time? And you're not seeing what my message is. In fact, it's like none of you are. I'm not saying we should all stop making kind gestures cuz it's useless, I'm saying we ALL should start doing them so we can start changing things more radically. I'm not saying "It's all hopeless, let's drop a bomb and end it all." What I'm saying is "Fuck! Why aren't we doing anything??" You'd think that 10,000+ years into our evolved existence we would start to try and make the world a better place and try to change our flaws into qualities.

And I agree with Nip too. If you've said all you've had to say, you don't have to keep responding to this thread. I think we can Let It Die. You've all made your point.

Um, no. That's not what Bailadora said at all, that's what YOU'RE saying. She said that those of us who have a problem with what's going on in the world are already doing something to fix it.

If no one is getting your message, you need to change the way you're communicating because the problem lies with you, not a bunch of incredibly smart people who are perfectly capable of reading between the lines.

In the end, all you can do is control what you're doing. Stop complaining about what others are doing and start making what you feel is a difference with your own body. I'd be willing to bet you'd be less concerned with others if you were more happy with yourself/how you were taking action. At least you'd have far less time to focus on it. If you have this much time to be angry, you likely have time to be volunteering more and such.