Where are you?

[graceanne]

Why is everyone feeding him when he's in troll mode?

You know he loves to be an asshole, so telling him he's one isn't going to make a difference. Just gives him a chance to prove it. Ignore him, and move on.

 

[Etoile]

Why is everyone feeding him when he's in troll mode?

You know he loves to be an asshole, so telling him he's one isn't going to make a difference. Just gives him a chance to prove it. Ignore him, and move on.

I was thinking of posting one of those "Please Don't Feed the Troll" pics but I couldn't be bothered to find one, heh.

And now I'm going to go enjoy the beach.

 

[graceanne]

I was thinking of posting one of those "Please Don't Feed the Troll" pics but I couldn't be bothered to find one, heh.

Ditto.

 

[RawHumor]

So if they are not entertaining you dump them? Or could it possibly be that you don't have the patience, the imagination and the skills it takes to keep things interesting in a D/s relationship? I suppose that some submissives could get boring quickly, but I can't imagine intelligent, creative, interesting ones causing you to become bored.

Reminds me of this:

Ya know it seems like, after about 39,000 times, you'd start to go "Maybe it's me!

Maybe I need to read a book.

I seem to be the only common denominator in this math equation of love."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJSaU2IyS2Y

 

[Tawny_Temptress]

I was thinking of posting one of those "Please Don't Feed the Troll" pics but I couldn't be bothered to find one, heh.

And now I'm going to go enjoy the beach.

Here ya go!

 

[nh23]

I'm looking for a sub.

I'm looking for a sub without issues that grew up like in a female version of "The Truman Show''. Normal.

You disqualify f.e. if
- you were raped, molested or sexually abused (non-consensual)(in your adolescence)
- you grew up with a bipolar parent or sibling
- you had a serious traumatic experience in your past
- you were sentenced for a crime
- you suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder
...

Do you exist?

(No need to worry, I'm not looking for a date.)

*sobs* I don't qualify. I'm never going to get over this.

 

[intothewoods]

..right.

*looks at high school diploma*

*looks at college enrollment*

*notices that she is, in fact, reading*

At least you got a response!

 

[00Syd]

At least you got a response!

I know, I'm so lucky. You should be very jealous.

 

[JupitersGirl]

Do you think that you are better than me?

Without a doubt.

 

[Adakgirl]

As to your question:

I'm wondering about the cause-and-effect chain, f.e. if there can be incidents in the adolescence that increase the likelihood of the development of a submissive nature.

This is a valid question and could easily lead to some interesting conversation.
Yes, I believe there can be. Not with all submissive woman and men but with enough to make you notice it if you have talked with a lot of them. I know that personaly, the situation I was raised in has a great deal to do with my having this need and strong desire to please and serve Dominant men. But it did not happen in my adolescence...it occurred from a very young age and the fall out from that has affected me ever since.

It is obvious and simple to me. I had no adult males around me growing up. I had no father around. My older brothers were out all the time then in Nam, then gone and married living in far away states. I was the kind of girl who needed a dad, who was constantly aware that I was missing something very important to my well being. I had no boundaries or control, from my early teens I had no rules I had to follow. My mom worked nights and slept days. She had little time to make sure I towed the line. I was never punished by a male authoritative figure. I craved a dad.

Now I crave a Dominants power over me and my actions. I need the boundaries and control they can provide me. It makes me feel safe and secure when I know he is keeping an eye on me. When a Dominant expects certain things from me and expects me to obey him, It makes me feel "right". I like a man making sure I am doing what he tells me to do and that I am doing it right. I react positively to being disciplined when I disappoint, don't come through, don't do as I am expected to do or disobey.

I know my submissiveness comes from being raised without the benefit of having any of those things.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

As to your question:



This is a valid question and could easily lead to some interesting conversation.
Yes, I believe there can be. Not with all submissive woman and men but with enough to make you notice it if you have talked with a lot of them. I know that personaly, the situation I was raised in has a great deal to do with my having this need and strong desire to please and serve Dominant men. But it did not happen in my adolescence...it occurred from a very young age and the fall out from that has affected me ever since.

It is obvious and simple to me. I had no adult males around me growing up. I had no father around. My older brothers were out all the time then in Nam, then gone and married living in far away states. I was the kind of girl who needed a dad, who was constantly aware that I was missing something very important to my well being. I had no boundaries or control, from my early teens I had no rules I had to follow. My mom worked nights and slept days. She had little time to make sure I towed the line. I was never punished by a male authoritative figure. I craved a dad.

Now I crave a Dominants power over me and my actions. I need the boundaries and control they can provide me. It makes me feel safe and secure when I know he is keeping an eye on me. When a Dominant expects certain things from me and expects me to obey him, It makes me feel "right". I like a man making sure I am doing what he tells me to do and that I am doing it right. I react positively to being disciplined when I disappoint, don't come through, don't do as I am expected to do or disobey.

I know my submissiveness comes from being raised without the benefit of having any of those things.

It could have lead to some interesting conversation if the question asker wasn't such a knob.

Anyway.

It's funny. I'm not one to sit and analyse why I am what I am, or why I like what I do. I just accept it and move on.

Occasionally though, when these questions are asked, and I read others' responses, I *do* think about it.

Looking back, I always had a submissive nature. I was always shy, always eager to please, there was no greater reward than being told I'd done well. Even now, nothing tickles my fancy more than being told I'm a 'good girl'.

I don't think there's anything in particular that set that off inside me. I've always felt some degree of unworthiness in my life, but I don't why. It's just there. I don't know. Maybe I did something bad once and got into trouble for it.

I had a happy family growing up. My parents did the tradional thing. Dad worked, mum stayed home to look after us. They hid most of their own worries from us, they went to every school event, every sport event. Everything was very "normal".

I think though, my mother might have some submissive tendencies. While my father isn't dominant, my mother always, always, puts everyone else first, never says no, doesn't like to go away for short trips by herself, doesn't like it when my father goes away.

I think, although I'm a Daddy's girl, I've modelled my behaviour on my mother's.

 

[Netzach]

]
It is obvious and simple to me. I had no adult males around me growing up. I had no father around. My older brothers were out all the time then in Nam, then gone and married living in far away states. I was the kind of girl who needed a dad, who was constantly aware that I was missing something very important to my well being. I had no boundaries or control, from my early teens I had no rules I had to follow. My mom worked nights and slept days. She had little time to make sure I towed the line. I was never punished by a male authoritative figure. I craved a dad.

Now I crave a Dominants power over me and my actions. I need the boundaries and control they can provide me. It makes me feel safe and secure when I know he is keeping an eye on me. When a Dominant expects certain things from me and expects me to obey him, It makes me feel "right". I like a man making sure I am doing what he tells me to do and that I am doing it right. I react positively to being disciplined when I disappoint, don't come through, don't do as I am expected to do or disobey.

I know my submissiveness comes from being raised without the benefit of having any of those things.

Same.

So I basically want to kick my Dad in the nuts and control him and tie him down and make him mine. Same story can go any direction. My conclusion is just as logical as a submissive woman's.

The cause/effect stuff gets very loopy and doesn't go in a smooth straight line.

 

[Cattypuss]

Is it me, or is there nothing so undomlike as an angry, pompous, misanthropic (or at the very least misogynistic), sabre-rattling.... arsehole?

Around a "man" like that I am the least submissive woman you'll meet. Around a real Dom (a quietly confident, non-arrogant, self-accepting, woman-loving Alpha), I melt faster than an ice cube in hell.

 

[00Syd]

The cause and effect why am I this way discussions always seem a little pointless to me. But that could just be because I can't think of any cause that would lead to this effect in my life.

 

[Harmony_1985]

Just because I have OCD does not mean I am not normal.

Now straighten that fucking table up so its symmetrical to the wall before I go Jean Claude Van Damme on your ass.

 

[sexycaz22]

Ahhh so he is in a trolling mood again!

 

[Primalex]

Is it me, or is there nothing so undomlike as an angry, pompous, misanthropic (or at the very least misogynistic), sabre-rattling.... arsehole?

It's just you.

Around a "man" like that I am the least submissive woman you'll meet. Around a real Dom (a quietly confident, non-arrogant, self-accepting, woman-loving Alpha), I melt faster than an ice cube in hell.

So your crush is James Bond.

Housewife.

 

[Primalex]

I think I'm too boring. Probably not creative enough. Only so-so on the smarts.

Hm. What about your body?

 

[Adakgirl]

Same.

So I basically want to kick my Dad in the nuts and control him and tie him down and make him mine. Same story can go any direction. My conclusion is just as logical as a submissive woman's.

The cause/effect stuff gets very loopy and doesn't go in a smooth straight line.

Interesting, the same causes but a completely opposite affect.

 

[Cattypuss]

Interesting, the same causes but a completely opposite affect.

Makes you wonder if they actually are cause and effect at all. If, even without the experiences noted, the people would have ended up with the same kink anyway? Catalysts, maybe, rather than causes?

 

[rida]

- you were raped, molested or sexually abused (non-consensual)(in your adolescence)

No

- you grew up with a bipolar parent or sibling

No

- you had a serious traumatic experience in your past

No

- you were sentenced for a crime

No

- you suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder

No

But I am a college drop out.

And I'm not sure my life would qualify as a " "The Truman Show"'s style of Normal " life.

Why am I submissive? No idea.

 

[00Syd]

Makes you wonder if they actually are cause and effect at all. If, even without the experiences noted, the people would have ended up with the same kink anyway? Catalysts, maybe, rather than causes?

Or maybe events that have no bearing on how we turn out at all. There really is no way to know whether or not a past event influenced the way we turn out in later life or whether it is just a coincidence.

 

[Undertrial]

I beg your pardon for interrupting the thread, but wasn't the whole point of the Truman Show that growing up in such a manner (ie, perfectly normal) is not, in the end 'normal at all but rather abnormal?

If we are using the Truman Show as a base guideline for normality, than by simply rebelling as a teenager and getting grounded a lot, or sneaking out, and then having your TV/computer/whatever privelages taken away would be grounds of being 'abnormal' by your definition, and thusly disqualified.

I'd think few indeed are the submissive women who had that sort of life growing up, but then I'd think most vanilla/dominant women who had that sort of life growing up would be few too. Even I would consider myself normal in the mom & dad who didn't divorce with a sister and a dog growing up, but not in the same sense of The Truman Show.

I guess the point of this is that no, she doesn't exist. Everyone has issues of some kind. That or I completely misunderstood the entire point of your post.

 

[Adakgirl]

Or maybe events that have no bearing on how we turn out at all. There really is no way to know whether or not a past event influenced the way we turn out in later life or whether it is just a coincidence.

You are correct but in certain cases there are ways to know. For example, brain x-rays of the majority of serial killers that have had a past event of falling on their heads in early childhood show damage to the frontal lobe of their brains, where the conscience lives and allows us to control our emotions including rage and anger. The frontal lobe also gives us the ability to feel compassion and remorse. It is a proven fact that Serial killers have no remorse, they are unable to feel compassion as normal people do and have no ability to control their emotions of anger, hate and rage. That is cause and affect.

 

[rinka]

I'm looking for a sub.

I'm looking for a sub without issues that grew up like in a female version of "The Truman Show''. Normal.

You disqualify f.e. if
- you were raped, molested or sexually abused (non-consensual)(in your adolescence)
- you grew up with a bipolar parent or sibling
- you had a serious traumatic experience in your past
- you were sentenced for a crime
- you suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder
...

Do you exist?

(No need to worry, I'm not looking for a date.)

I'm in Sweden. Unabused, trauma-free and literate.

(Will not participate in skull-measuring.)