Why do we want politicians to go to disaster sites?

[Lazaran]

Now the jackbooted thugs from CDC, EPA and FEMA are going door to door in East Palestine. How is this kind of government intrusion allowed to go on?

The RWCJ is all over the place these days.

I just point and laugh.

RWCJ

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yes, but the ultimate responsibility to see that quality and safety standards are enforced against the railroad owners is the Federal Railroad Administration within the Department of Transportation. That point about the Mayor is BS, Sean. One cannot expect the mayor of a small town to shoulder the responsibility of managing a catastrophe the size of this one which has clear interstate and federal implications for health, safety, and environmental hazard.

When did we stop calling Buttigeg "Mayor Pete"? Did I miss a memo? I don't think he's qualified for the job, I just don't have any clue in the world what you could do to be qualified for almost any Secretary position. I mean at least a governor has some idea of what its like to be a President. Other than that almost every job at the Federal level doesn't really have a state or private level true equivalent.

Whenever a new Justice is about to be seated I always find it it funny that people think there is a solid measuring stick you could logically take. But that's for some other day.

As far as we know the laws that existed were being enforced. This goes back to a Mayor from nowhere. You've been here long enough that I know you've read plenty of laws and proposals. I would bet money that there are tens or hundreds of thousands of pages on file in just the DoT most of which just say "Citing 1862 Crazy Horse vs Bobby, no rail lines shall be built west of the 77th parallel, please cite the SCOTUS. Those things are always absurdly complex.

However if partisan ship is your problem perhaps it would be much wiser to have these people forced to answer to the public. Which as I stated the exception of judges.

 

[Rightguide]

When did we stop calling Buttigeg "Mayor Pete"? Did I miss a memo? I don't think he's qualified for the job, I just don't have any clue in the world what you could do to be qualified for almost any Secretary position. I mean at least a governor has some idea of what its like to be a President. Other than that almost every job at the Federal level doesn't really have a state or private level true equivalent.

I understood Keith to be referring to the Mayor of Palestine, was I wrong?

Whenever a new Justice is about to be seated I always find it it funny that people think there is a solid measuring stick you could logically take. But that's for some other day.

Actually, there is a measuring stick, education, previous cases and decisions, and familiarity with the concepts of law as defined by the Constitution, federal statutes, and the jurisprudence of the SCOTUS.

As far as we know the laws that existed were being enforced. This goes back to a Mayor from nowhere. You've been here long enough that I know you've read plenty of laws and proposals. I would bet money that there are tens or hundreds of thousands of pages on file in just the DoT most of which just say "Citing 1862 Crazy Horse vs Bobby, no rail lines shall be built west of the 77th parallel, please cite the SCOTUS. Those things are always absurdly complex.

However if partisan ship is your problem perhaps it would be much wiser to have these people forced to answer to the public. Which as I stated the exception of judges.

My problem is nobody in DC is exhibiting any leadership on the issue. The only reason why the Secretary of Transportation went is that Trump projected leadership and compassion by showing up with clean water and food on his own dime the day before. Note that he was cheered and thanked by hundreds of people who only wanted somebody to care about them, somebody who walked among them and listened to their problems and answered their questions. Judging by what I saw with mayor Pete's reception the Democrats better be ready in 2024.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The only metric you list that means a damn thing that could even SORTA be used is past case judgements. Even that just means however that if I come to judgements you agree with I'm qualified if not, I'm not. It's a bullshit metric.

While I disagree that Biden isn't "showing leadership" I think when you call the governor and say "Whatever you need, blank check" that is all the help they need from someone who isn't familiar what's going on on the ground.

The fact that the people cheered doesn't mean its rational. People are fucking stupid.

 

[Veroe]

My problem is nobody in DC is exhibiting any leadership on the issue. The only reason why the Secretary of Transportation went is that Trump projected leadership and compassion by showing up with clean water and food on his own dime the day before. Note that he was cheered and thanked by hundreds of people who only wanted somebody to care about them, somebody who walked among them and listened to their problems and answered their questions. Judging by what I saw with mayor Pete's reception the Democrats better be ready in 2024.

Leadership is debatable considering his administration helped create the situation that caused Norfolk Southern to run hazardous flammable chemicals through East Palestine OH on a train loaded up with 150 cars on brakes on antiquated brakes. He didn't bother mentioning or owning up to that, did he? The truth is the blame's on Obama, Biden, and Trump on the whole disaster there.

Still in terms of responses you're right he did show more compassion for them than Pres. Biden or Sec. Pete, who both seem to want to sweep the whole thing under the rug and forget about the people there. Reminds me of the 2016 Trump and how canny he maneuvered with a feel for the pulse of the people he had in campaigning against his republican opponents and Hillary in the general. I had thought he'd lost touch of that political feel for the people in his ridiculous 2020 campaign about Biden being a bigger socialist than Bernie and AOC combined (ROTFLMAO at how stupid he was there). If this marks the return of that in touch version of Trump...it makes me worried. I don't think anyone can beat him.

Fortunately a week from now he'll probably forget all about any of that and go back to whining about how butthurt he is that 2020 was stolen from him again.

 

[Paul_Chance]

I want then to go to disaster sites because I am secretly hoping they get caught up in a secondary wave!

 

[KeithD]

The truth is the blame's on Obama, Biden, and Trump on the whole disaster there.

The blame is on the creators of (and benefiters from) toxic waste and on Norfolk Southern.

 

[JohnnySavage]

The blame is on the creators of (and benefiters from) toxic waste and on Norfolk Southern.

You mean everyone who uses plastics?

 

[KeithD]

You mean everyone who uses plastics?

Well . . . yeah. We all have a share--to the extent we didn't have a non-toxic alternative that we've chosen. I'm waiting for the lightbulb to hit on grocery bags that they could go back to paper. I notice, though, that you skip over the point that it isn't all government's fault in the response to the wreck--that it's even more the railroad's fault for there having been a wreck.