You’re just going to have to explain it to me…(Trump Edition)

[deckardB26354]

So, how’d 45 do last night? I didn’t watch it.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Did Trump’s trade tariffs with China bring our nations closer together?

Fuck your MAGA anti-US spin.

Trump did nothing to improve relations with China.

How much of the soy bean market in China did we lose? What else did we lose!

Free Trade! Why can’t our industry complete? Because our billionaires moved our industry to China! Whole steel factories! The steel factory used to destroy the liquid Termintor? It’s in China now

 

[Bray123]

Trump has explained his policy on child care, take that libs!

https://imgur.com/jZeJBR8

 

[thetiesthatbindme]

Why? It appears from your voluminous diatribe that you've made up your mind and aren't going to listen to reason or common sense.

Which sort of indicates that you weren't asking a question, nor are you seeking enlightenment, you just wanted to announce to the world that you support socialism as long as it isn't Trump who gets elected.

I await the Wailing On The Sidewalk remake.

But u don't consider huge govt subsidies to billionaires like Musk and Bezos socialism? Just programs that help everyday Americans I guess.

 

[thetiesthatbindme]

Trump has explained his policy on child care, take that libs!

https://imgur.com/jZeJBR8

Try and 'sane wash' that malarky!

 

[Politruk]

Why? It appears from your voluminous diatribe that you've made up your mind and aren't going to listen to reason or common sense.

Which sort of indicates that you weren't asking a question, nor are you seeking enlightenment, you just wanted to announce to the world that you support socialism as long as it isn't Trump who gets elected.

Socialism = reason & common sense.

 

[HisArpy]

But u don't consider huge govt subsidies to billionaires like Musk and Bezos socialism? Just programs that help everyday Americans I guess.

How is a subsidy socialism? In the basest form, any form of taxation for social purposes is socialism whether it be for welfare, social security, unemployment, civic services, and so on.

However, when you realize that true socialism isn't a redistribution of wealth, but is instead the ultimate control of all commerce and trade, you begin to realize that things like government subsidies aren't even close to socialism's evil. Socialism at its core attempts to determine what you may possess through what may be produced. It steals before you possess a thing and thereafter saying that, because you never possessed it, you never owned it and aren't entitled to it. This theft includes the lives of the people as well as their welfare, and is committed before they are even born.

But then you already know all that, don't you?

 

[Politruk]

How is a subsidy socialism? In the basest form, any form of taxation for social purposes is socialism whether it be for welfare, social security, unemployment, civic services, and so on.

No, it isn't. Socialism requires, at the very least, the nationalization, or in some sense the socialization, of some substantial part of the means of production. There is no socialism in the social democracies.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

They usually prefer terms like regulation and EU mandate...

 

[JoePepsiCo]

... sounds smarter than The Return of the Primitive...

 

[RobDownSouth]

How is a subsidy socialism? In the basest form, any form of taxation for social purposes is socialism whether it be for welfare, social security, unemployment, civic services, and so on.

That's quite a novel interpretation of the concept of socialism, quite far from the classic definition.
Please continue, counselor.

 

[Politruk]

Socialism at its core attempts to determine what you may possess through what may be produced. It steals before you possess a thing and thereafter saying that, because you never possessed it, you never owned it and aren't entitled to it.

No one ever owns anything save by government fiat.

 

[Bray123]

Everyone who whines about potholes in the road or not enough military is campaigning for greater socialism.

 

[deckardB26354]

 

[Chernosoth]

You’re just going to have to explain it to me…why Trump is the right choice for this country for the next four years.

If Trump wins the popular vote, then mainstream media will start forgetting everything it said against Trump and claim it has always liked and supported Trump's goals. And then you can have that answered by talking heads, pundits, and corporate media influencers.

 

[adrina]

^ Idiot. Sorry, but between the artificial both sidesism and the air fairy bizarro land... JFC.

 

[Chernosoth]

air fairy bizarro land... JFC.

There's no sane and normal way to live in a terminally batshit society. Living out here in bizarro land has advantages and disadvantages.

 

[PaxNurgle]

If Trump wins the popular vote, then mainstream media will start forgetting everything it said against Trump and claim it has always liked and supported Trump's goals. And then you can have that answered by talking heads, pundits, and corporate media influencers.

Very possibly you are correct. But there is more to the story than that, and not for the reasons you may think.

The media will have no choice but to do so.

If Trump wins, then freedom of the press will disappear- along with many other freedoms we take for granted today.

 

[dawnonyou]

It would be hard to understand why Trump was elected in such a landslide as long as you live in an echo chamber. Trying to read this thread was funny because all the same talking point that have been planted in the "minds" of the liberals just keeps getting vomited out to be eaten again and again. Exit the echo chamber if you really want to understand this.

 

[Rebel5soul]

It would be hard to understand why Trump was elected in such a landslide as long as you live in an echo chamber. Trying to read this thread was funny because all the same talking point that have been planted in the "minds" of the liberals just keeps getting vomited out to be eaten again and again. Exit the echo chamber if you really want to understand this.

It's scary for them outside the echo chamber.

 

[UltraChad]

No, it isn't. Socialism requires, at the very least, the nationalization, or in some sense the socialization, of some substantial part of the means of production. There is no socialism in the social democracies.

All those regulations and taxes are the socialization of ALL the means of production. Especially the most important means of production, labor.

Social democracies are FULL of it. That's why they treat people who engage in independent/free economic activities worse than murderers and kiddy diddlers....... That's what you like about them so much.

 

[dawnonyou]

It's scary for them outside the echo chamber.

Yes it is. And that is why they cling together and keep chanting the same old same old. That is also why the can't let themselves listen objectively to any other viewpoint. That in turn is why they go nuts.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Yes it is. And that is why they cling together and keep chanting the same old same old. That is also why the can't let themselves listen objectively to any other viewpoint. That in turn is why they go nuts.

I think you got it covered there.