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Why not normalize U.S. relations with Cuba?

Come to think of it, what's the point of Guantanamo Bay? I don't mean the prison, I mean the naval base. The U.S. does not need a base in Cuba -- if we need to project force in the Caribbean, we can sail a fleet out of any port in Florida or Puerto Rico.
 
It's force maintenance.

Remember.

Castro imported nukes.
If they did it once, you keep them locked down.
When the Communists are gone, you open Miami for business...
 
JoePepsiCo said:
China

Venezuela

The Former head of the KGB...
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None of those are actual declared enemies of the U.S. China is a major trading partner. In fact, I'm pretty sure we trade with all of them -- no embargoes. So why have one on Cuba?
 
JoePepsiCo said:
It's force maintenance.

Remember.

Castro imported nukes.
If they did it once, you keep them locked down.
When the Communists are gone, you open Miami for business...
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Communism doesn't matter any more. As an international movement, it is a spent force. There is no reason to give it any consideration at all in making foreign policy.
 
We do not have to declare them enemies.

THEY did.

Not taking enemies seriously is very 1939, speaking of something recently dragged in by the pussies...
 
Politruk said:
They can't be our enemies if we trade with them.
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Of course they can when it is part of their national strategy to drain us and create reliance,

which is why all the fucking panic in Covid when we started talking

SUPPLY CHAINS​

and realizing that we had allowed ourselves to be put at the mercy of the Communists and their slave labor.

Which is what would happen if we opened up trade with Cuba for their slave goods.
 
JoePepsiCo said:
Of course they can when it is part of their national strategy to drain us and create reliance,

which is why all the fucking panic in Covid when we started talking

SUPPLY CHAINS​

and realizing that we had allowed ourselves to be put at the mercy of the Communists and their slave labor.

Which is what would happen if we opened up trade with Cuba for their slave goods.
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:rolleyes: That is quite incredibly stupid. The U.S. is not going to be in any way "at the mercy" of Cuba if we open trade with them. It will only make cane sugar and high-end cigars cheaper here.

And not even China has any "national strategy to drain us and create reliance." That's some positively archaic idiocy -- it's like how a John Bircher might have talked in 1960.
 
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No.

But is funding slavery, oppression and tyranny a moral act?

And, speaking of the liberalization of the nation, are not sugar and cigars very bad things?
 
I must think about this more.

Normalize slavery.
Normalize smoking.
Normalize Communism...

It's is almost as if you wish to advocate for the normalization of Communism.


After all. What does it hurt me any? I certainly wouldn't want to live in Cuba as it is today...

What happens to Cubans is not my business.
 
JoePepsiCo said:
But is funding slavery, oppression and tyranny a moral act?
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There seems to be a long-standing consensus that it is cool for the U.S. to trade with Communist countries. Cuba is the only exception, and there is no good reason why it should be.
 
It is not cool to trade with China.

Trump Tariffs ring a bell?

The consternation?

of LW nation?
 
JoePepsiCo said:
It's is almost as if you wish to advocate for the normalization of Communism.
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Well, in hindsight, the Cold War never was worth fighting. And the world, including the West, is not any better off for having the Communist option off the table.
 
Politruk said:
Well, in hindsight, the Cold War never was worth fighting. And the world, including the West, is not any better off for having the Communist option off the table.
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Okay

Whatever makes your point

Let's continue to extrapolate. No war is worth fighting. It's better to be politely subversive from within...

passive-aggressive

win-win
 
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