Women of Lit: A Safe Place To Share

Me: not if you don’t understand NO, you’re not.
I just watched a video a couple of women filmed. Both of them are being pestered in a social scene and they have to emphasize No! several times.
The especially sad part was the film maker commented how many guys left responses, stuff like "maybe she didn't really mean no" or "she smiled so she probably didn't mean no".

Even times I've been with friends in a social setting and been hassled.....it's like don't they get it? I just want to hang out w friends!
 
This is so obvious that many men think this, because it happens repeatedly - they don't believe no is no, if it's said nicely.
This is part of a bigger pattern I've noticed throughout the years. A man can end a relationship and it's just that straightforward. The relationship is now ended because they said so & you're being a needy, bothersome, clingy woman if you try to salvage things. On the other hand, when a woman ends a relationship, well, it's up for discussion. A lot of men will try to edit a woman's decision until they're back together again. It's ultimately very manipulative, but it's played off as "fighting for the relationship."
Hey bro, if I say, "I don't want to be with you anymore," then that ain't up for interpretation. It means what it means. The same as "I don't want to have sex right now," or "I'm not interested in a relationship right now," or "Lit stranger, I don't want to have sexy chat until I'm comfortable first."
It's all some mild obstacle to some guys who will just keep pushing until they get the response that they want, i.e, invalidating & ignoring what the woman verbatim said she wants.
 
It doesn't help when you read about the misogynistic behaviour of the likes of Tate brothers. Or see YouTubers tell men how to get women.

Everyone talks about being nice and living in a fairer more equal society, but its not.

Women get hassled in bars, shops and even in the bloody supermarket. I'm doing myshopping thanks, buying tampax, and paracetamol, I'm not here on the pull.

Then you get called names for trying to politely turn them down.

You get incels who go mad because they don't know how to talk properly, to strike up a conversation, because they've watched too many Andrew Tate videos.

It makes me so cross. They think being gay is also like a challenge to turn me, or an opportunity to watch me and my girlfriend. No fucker! I don't want you anywhere near me or my bedroom.

Rant over!
 
Too many men have grown up having two separate categories: humans, that are treated as such, and then women... And they don't even realise it. They've never learned that women should be respected, listened to etc just as men.
 
This is part of a bigger pattern I've noticed throughout the years. A man can end a relationship and it's just that straightforward. The relationship is now ended because they said so & you're being a needy, bothersome, clingy woman if you try to salvage things. On the other hand, when a woman ends a relationship, well, it's up for discussion. A lot of men will try to edit a woman's decision until they're back together again. It's ultimately very manipulative, but it's played off as "fighting for the relationship."
Hey bro, if I say, "I don't want to be with you anymore," then that ain't up for interpretation. It means what it means. The same as "I don't want to have sex right now," or "I'm not interested in a relationship right now," or "Lit stranger, I don't want to have sexy chat until I'm comfortable first."
It's all some mild obstacle to some guys who will just keep pushing until they get the response that they want, i.e, invalidating & ignoring what the woman verbatim said she wants.
Agreed, especially when a woman tries to leave a relationship that was already one-sided with bullying or manipulation.
 
Kasia Babis hits the nail on the head.
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Lorrie Morgan's song "What part of no" spent a hot minute as a women's anthem back in the early 90s (if any of you are old enough to remember). Ironically, it was written by two men.
 
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