Johnny Mayberry
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Well, if the two people agree on new terms, it isn't cheating, I'll agree with that 100%.honestone said:
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Re: Keep it to your self
"Open minds"...the last refuge of the intellectually dishonest._sticky_stuff said:
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For anyone to claim an "ethical" higher moral ground, in this day and age, is purely hypocritical. Granted, the example I gave earlier was extreme -- deliberately so.
Someone of such inviolate moral caliber would certainly return the extra $5 the gas station attendant inadvertently gave them. An ethical person would not pick out the one item mistakenly priced $20 lower at Home Depot. One with such upstanding moral fiber would never return a product to the store claiming that it was like that when they opened it, knowing full well that dropping it out of the car trunk caused the damage. One of such unflinching honesty would never claim to the highway patrol officer that they didn't realize how fast they were going, or make up a ridiculous excuse rather than admit they knew they were speeding and accept the ticket graciously.
Johnny, you've apparently got some baggage which this thread has given you an opportunity to vent about, which may have been somewhat theraputic. However, I'm guessing (from the nature of your diatribe) that you've never been married, never bought a house, never had kids.
Perhaps it might be worthwhile to consider why it's so important for you to condemn others rather than examine the the reasons for your own hostility. Just the Zen Buddhist in me rearing its ugly head.
No one who cheats enters into the decision to do it lightly, regardless of the flippant generalizations that permeate this thread. I'm not saying it's right, and I'm not saying it's wrong. I can envision compelling arguments for either side. Without having been in the situation of the participants involved, I don't feel I'm in a position to judge their actions. Only they can do that.
Someone of such inviolate moral caliber would certainly return the extra $5 the gas station attendant inadvertently gave them. An ethical person would not pick out the one item mistakenly priced $20 lower at Home Depot. One with such upstanding moral fiber would never return a product to the store claiming that it was like that when they opened it, knowing full well that dropping it out of the car trunk caused the damage. One of such unflinching honesty would never claim to the highway patrol officer that they didn't realize how fast they were going, or make up a ridiculous excuse rather than admit they knew they were speeding and accept the ticket graciously.
Johnny, you've apparently got some baggage which this thread has given you an opportunity to vent about, which may have been somewhat theraputic. However, I'm guessing (from the nature of your diatribe) that you've never been married, never bought a house, never had kids.
Perhaps it might be worthwhile to consider why it's so important for you to condemn others rather than examine the the reasons for your own hostility. Just the Zen Buddhist in me rearing its ugly head.
No one who cheats enters into the decision to do it lightly, regardless of the flippant generalizations that permeate this thread. I'm not saying it's right, and I'm not saying it's wrong. I can envision compelling arguments for either side. Without having been in the situation of the participants involved, I don't feel I'm in a position to judge their actions. Only they can do that.
Johnny Mayberry
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LOL, like I said, we can judge, we have to judge...certainly we can judge actions. And, I don't want to hear how hard it is for married people to be ethical, that's a load of bullshit. Life may not be black and white, but it isn't too hard to see which end of teh spectrum cheating lies on.
Every argument for cheating is an argument for leaving.
And, of course, I love that everyone tries to turn things around on me. Why can't I just be ethical, and empathetic? It isn't that I have issues, it is the fact that I know firsthand the harm of cheating and cannot understand the attitude people have, of 'if you are tempted, go for it!'. And, even before I was cheated on in my own life, I felt exactly the same way. I don't condone lying or stealing, in any but a very few situations.
Every argument for cheating is an argument for leaving.
And, of course, I love that everyone tries to turn things around on me. Why can't I just be ethical, and empathetic? It isn't that I have issues, it is the fact that I know firsthand the harm of cheating and cannot understand the attitude people have, of 'if you are tempted, go for it!'. And, even before I was cheated on in my own life, I felt exactly the same way. I don't condone lying or stealing, in any but a very few situations.
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I have and will always return money that is not owed to me. I wouldn't cheat a person out of a penny. Or get something under some pretense the poor clerk can't tell the difference, which is on sale. Does that make me a good deed doer? No it makes sense to live with ethics in every aspect of one's life.
Not only for the big questions in life, ethics separate us from animals. We shouldn't only have them when it suits our needs.
I disagree with if it feels good, then do it. The people who speak of gray area's, are the one's that want the black/white line to disappear... So they can have their cake and eat it too.
Not only for the big questions in life, ethics separate us from animals. We shouldn't only have them when it suits our needs.
I disagree with if it feels good, then do it. The people who speak of gray area's, are the one's that want the black/white line to disappear... So they can have their cake and eat it too.
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