Am I morphing into a right-winger?

[Chernosoth]

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[Lazaran]

SMH.

SAD

We. Told. Then. So.

 

[Pavlovsdog6862]

Otherwise

If you’re going by their records, Kamala Harris was the superior choice by a mile. She had more experience as a public servant than Donald Trump, and promised to continue the good job Biden had been doing.

LOL BIDEN DOING A GOOD JOB ! You certainly are funny shiny

 

[Wilson23]

Otherwise

LOL BIDEN DOING A GOOD JOB ! You certainly are funny shiny

Better than Trump in either term, even you must admit.

 

[Dhfranklin94]

SAD

We. Told the. So.

?????? Makes no sense. We. Told the. So. ????

 

[Lazaran]

?????? Makes no sense. We. Told the. So. ????

Them.

We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Pavlovsdog6862]

Better than Trump in either term, even you must admit.

No I definitely would not admit , I m a small business owner . So yeah Biden and Obama both crushed my business . Got to give it to Clinton though he built my business first the most part. Of course he did it with a non partisan country . He and newt Gingrich . So no Biden was a disaster

 

[MajorRewrite]

No I definitely would not admit , I m a small business owner . So yeah Biden and Obama both crushed my business . Got to give it to Clinton though he built my business first the most part. Of course he did it with a non partisan country . He and newt Gingrich . So no Biden was a disaster

Yeah, sure. Give examples of how biDEn and oBaMa crUsHed your business.

The economy was doing better in just about every way before Trump regained office:

Unemployment rate
2024: 4.1%
2025: 4.4%

Jobs created:
2024: 2,200,000
2025: 584,000

Manufacturing employment (total, in December):
2024: 12,760,000
2025: 12,692,000

Value of the dollar (DXY index):
2024: up 7%
2025: down 9%

S&P 500:
2024: up 23%
2025: up 16%

Groceries Cost:
2024: up 1.7%
2025: up 2.4%

Medical Care Cost:
2024: up 2.83%
2025: up 3.15%

Housing Cost:
2024: up 4.07%
2025: up 3.60%

Core Inflation Rate (excludes food and energy)(core CPI):
2024: 3.2%
2025: 2.6%

 

[Pavlovsdog6862]

Yeah, sure. Give examples of how biDEn and oBaMa crUsHed your business.

The economy was doing better in just about every way before Trump regained office:

Unemployment rate
2024: 4.1%
2025: 4.4%

Jobs created:
2024: 2,200,000
2025: 584,000

Manufacturing employment (total, in December):
2024: 12,760,000
2025: 12,692,000

Value of the dollar (DXY index):
2024: up 7%
2025: down 9%

S&P 500:
2024: up 23%
2025: up 16%

Groceries Cost:
2024: up 1.7%
2025: up 2.4%

Medical Care Cost:
2024: up 2.83%
2025: up 3.15%

Housing Cost:
2024: up 4.07%
2025: up 3.60%

Core Inflation Rate (excludes food and energy)(core CPI):
2024: 3.2%
2025: 2.6%

Oh god another douchebag with some made up numbers. WTF. This country is truly fucked

 

[Pavlovsdog6862]

Oh god another douchebag with some made up numbers. WTF. This country is truly fucked

Oh and please do not tell me about the godamn unemployment rate . That NEVER includes people unable to collect anymore or at all. On BOTH PARTYS INFO

 

[Pavlovsdog6862]

Oh god another douchebag with some made up numbers. WTF. This country is truly fucked

Oh and please do not tell me about the godamn unemployment rate . That NEVER includes people unable to collect anymore or at all. On BOTH PARTYS INFO

Yeah, sure. Give examples of how biDEn and oBaMa crUsHed your business.

The economy was doing better in just about every way before Trump regained office:

Unemployment rate
2024: 4.1%
2025: 4.4%

Jobs created:
2024: 2,200,000
2025: 584,000

Manufacturing employment (total, in December):
2024: 12,760,000
2025: 12,692,000

Value of the dollar (DXY index):
2024: up 7%
2025: down 9%

S&P 500:
2024: up 23%
2025: up 16%

Groceries Cost:
2024: up 1.7%
2025: up 2.4%

Medical Care Cost:
2024: up 2.83%
2025: up 3.15%

Housing Cost:
2024: up 4.07%
2025: up 3.60%

Core Inflation Rate (excludes food and energy)(core CPI):
2024: 3.2%
2025: 2.6%

btw I was talking about my business and how much I’m made each year during those presidency s

 

[Pavlovsdog6862]

Been in a small business 28 years . Of those I did best the last 4 of Clinton (lol during when he was a total mess publicly.) and the first 6 of bush2 then it slowly went backwards till Obama then I almost lost the business after the first 6 of Obama . REAL CLOSE! The last 2 I got a reprieve from bank and slowly leveled out I’ve come back a little but only the first trump term

 

[Pavlovsdog6862]

Yeah, sure. Give examples of how biDEn and oBaMa crUsHed your business.

The economy was doing better in just about every way before Trump regained office:

Unemployment rate
2024: 4.1%
2025: 4.4%

Jobs created:
2024: 2,200,000
2025: 584,000

Manufacturing employment (total, in December):
2024: 12,760,000
2025: 12,692,000

Value of the dollar (DXY index):
2024: up 7%
2025: down 9%

S&P 500:
2024: up 23%
2025: up 16%

Groceries Cost:
2024: up 1.7%
2025: up 2.4%

Medical Care Cost:
2024: up 2.83%
2025: up 3.15%

Housing Cost:
2024: up 4.07%
2025: up 3.60%

Core Inflation Rate (excludes food and energy)(core CPI):
2024: 3.2%
2025: 2.6%

Oh and another thing !!! My business will never go back to Bush2 years of income with a republican or democratic president EVER YOUR SO FUCKED

 

[Dhfranklin94]

Them.

We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Pavlovsdog6862]

TDS

 

[Pavlovsdog6862]

Or RDS cause the next one will be no different then the rest GOOD LUCK

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
I'm assuming you're a heterosexual male.

Wrong.

Well gosh, then, where do you get this weird idea that women should just "suck it up" when someone molests them? Jeffrey Epstein?

 

[SebastianHolt]

I'd like to post this in Democratic Underground, which I frequent a lot, but my post would be alerted within seconds and subsequently banned. I'd run the risk of having my membership suspended.

As you can surmise, by my mention of Democratic Underground, I consider myself a liberal, these days a progressive. If I thought someone had come up with a system that worked, I'd happily share my wealth with people until we all were equally well off.

I'd support a single payer health care system.

I think people should pay enough for their hamburgers so fast food workers could support their families.

I think government should let people figure out their own sexuality and let them take whatever steps they wish to support it.

Likewise for dealing with pre-viable fetuses.

I agree that there oughta be a law, (and there is), against supervisors using promotions and raises and even continued employment as cudgels to get sex from an employee. I was glad the #MeToo movement showed a bright light on some men's sense of entitlement

I think women who accuse someone of rape should be automatically respected. They should never be dismissed from the get-go for any reason.

BUT

- I think the cry of "Believe women" or "Believe her" makes the world of crime prevention a very scary place, to the extent that is taken as marching orders. It beggars belief to think that women will never make false accusations about rape.

- I don't want to interact with people based on their mental or emotional state unless the relationship is close. E.g., I don't want to have to wear name tags proclaiming one's preferred pronouns.

- I have and will protest as loudly as anyone when injustices like the murder of George Floyd are revealed, but I think life is too complicated to try to mitigate past injustices with things like reparations.

- I don't think it's misogynistic to be concerned about declining birth rates. Concern about a problem does not imply an opinion about the solution.

- I find myself sympathizing with people who complain about "the victim culture," and "snowflakes." At some point I don't think that trauma warrants special treatment from the people around you.

- While I'm glad to see men's sense of entitlement successfully challenged by the #MeToo movement, I'm sorry to see the workplace turned into a sea of eggs everyone must walk on. Often, when I hear about "unwanted advances," I want to say "So he's a jerk. Grow up. Ignore him. Tell him "no" and move on."


- I've been uncomfortable with the mainstream reporting of ICE activities. There's been an unmitigated air of indignation that all these people were being rounded up. No addressing the issue of what one should do with illegal immigrants.

Today, I finally heard a report that I could rest easy with. This isn't a direct quote, but it's close to what I remember. "The people being detained are here illegally, but 75% of them have no criminal record, in contrast to the administration's assertion that it would focus on the "worst of the worst" criminals." So this explains the tone of indignation, while acknowledging that the raids are focusing on illegal immigrants.

So, progressives, what do you think? Have I given up my right to stay under the tent?

Conservatives, do I share enough opinions to join you?

I didn't include the fact that I abhor Donald Trump in my list. I refuse to let him define the conservative wing of our political life.

single payer health care system is a cancer

 

[Wilson23]

NEVER EVER And not one post of mine proves it

Bothsidesism helps Republicans.

 

[Wilson23]

single payer health care system is a cancer

Nobody in Canada wants to change it to anythng else.

 

[Wilson23]

In answer to the OP, you are not morphing, you are MORPHINE into a right-winger. It takes just the right dose to anesthetize both conscience and intellect.

 

[Noor]

Nobody in Canada wants to change it to anythng else.

many rare disease patients would love to change the health care system so they can get adequately treated. This goes for a lot of countries with single payer by the way.

 

[Wilson23]

many rare disease patients would love to change the health care system so they can get adequately treated.

That is a lie.

 

[Noor]

That is a lie.

You aren’t one of us and you have no idea what it’s like. I admin several large rare disease groups and the Canadas have an awful time. You can’t even get the lab tests for one of mine in Canada let alone the medication.
You’re making wild general statements about all of Canada based on your general belief of one payer systems and you call my post a lie?

That is a lie.

 

[PaxNurgle]

I do think people's views can moderate or shift over time, but the way I see it is, not necessarily becoming more knee-jerk "conservative" or knee-jerk "liberal," but more independant and pragmantic in their thinking. That is, adapting the more realistic and logical views of main-line (i.e. not extreme, bigoted, hateful, etc) conservatives while rejecting the excesses of extreme liberalism (radical gender theory, marxism/anti-capitalism, violent resistence, unreasonable and/or unrealistic) economic or social policies, and so on.

I've always strove for the reasonable, practical approach to society and government, but I get called out a lot for opposing the current American regime because I find the current government policies to be illogical, detrimental, racist, and destructive (for many reasons I've already elaborated on numerous times.) I get frustrated and despairing when I see a lot of intellectually immature folks on here who adapt the extremist positions without any logical consideration, and utterly fail when it comes to logic or rationality in defending their often toxic and sometimes, outright hateful, views.