And so it begins.

[ll74]

There is no "open border" crowd, outside the fevered imaginations of the MAGA right.

They've apprehended 10 times the number of border crosses than the previous administration

 

[Chobham]

They've apprehended 10 times the number of border crosses than the previous administration

Easy enough to do when you have ten times the number of illegals crossing. That, in reality, is an indictment not something to boast about.

 

[ll74]

Easy enough to do when you have ten times the number of illegals crossing. That, in reality, is an indictment not something to boast about.

Not easy at all to do.

Refugees come here. Sorry you don't like that.

 

[zipman]

Of course it never occurs the the 'open border' crowd that had those women and "children' not decided to join the criminal element they'd be safe at home. The "women and children" card doesn't play anymore.

No, the open border card is what doesn't play.

Unless you're a moronic cult member that thinks the election was stolen and the economy isn't doing well.

 

[Chobham]

Not easy at all to do.

Refugees come here. Sorry you don't like that.

You can pervert the language anyway you want but they are neither refugees nor immigrants. They are illegal aliens.

 

[ll74]

You can pervert the language anyway you want but they are neither refugees nor immigrants. They are illegal aliens.

That is not your claim to make. If you don't want them to have the ability to come here as refugees, then change the law so they can't.

The courts decide, not you.

 

[PaxNurgle]

The problem with your thinking is that the progressive Left aren't "soldiers."

The conservative Right OTOH, are.

Bullshit. You don't think progressives aren't scared and arming themselves against jack-booted goose stepping thugs like yourself? Think again.

But I have a constructive idea for YOU. Your name is, after all, "Icanhelp1." (Well, it's one of your names anyway.) Since you are so passionate about this issue, maybe you CAN help. Why don't you? Grab your guns, get on a bus, and go head down to the Texas border and volunteer to assist with the efforts to seal it and keep out the illegals. You will be doing something constructive AND feel better about yourself- as opposed to just sitting in your mother's basement being a keyboard warrior.

 

[Chobham]

That is not your claim to make. If you don't want them to have the ability to come here as refugees, then change the law so they can't.

The courts decide, not you.

Fuck the courts. If you want to change the language lobby congress to re-write the language of the law. I'm certain Biden will sign it.

 

[ll74]

Fuck the courts. If you want to change the language lobby congress to re-write the language of the law. I'm certain Biden will sign it.

Yes, I get that you don't like the law.

I am not the one bitching about how refugees are processed or considered.

 

[Chobham]

Yes, I get that you don't like the law.

I am not the one bitching about how refugees are processed or considered.

Under the law the illegals are to be held in custody until processed, period. Biden has decided to 'parole' the illegals and turn them into the interior.

The overwhelming majority of these illegals are males. They are in their teens or are of military age. The entire women and children mantra is a smoke screen.

Getting back to the fact of the matter, Texas has drawn a hard line and is being joined by 25 other states so far. So what is Biden going to do about it? His options are considerably more limited than the 'woke' internet warriors believe. I notice that many of them here are advocating military intervention. Only a moron would advocate for that solution.

 

[ll74]

Under the law the illegals are to be held in custody until processed, period. Biden has decided to 'parole' the illegals and turn them into the interior.

Catch and release is a policy that's been used before. The problem is the backlog. The problem is that the law has inherent issues such as this.

The overwhelming majority of these illegals are males. They are in their teens or are of military age. The entire women and children mantra is a smoke screen.

You literally don't get to decide who qualifies.

Getting back to the fact of the matter, Texas has drawn a hard line and is being joined by 25 other states so far. So what is Biden going to do about it? His options are considerably more limited than the 'woke' internet warriors believe. I notice that many of them here are advocating military intervention. Only a moron would advocate for that solution.

Texas has brought attention to the problems with the law. And instead of using it to push Congress to address the problems...

He instead has pointed it at the President.

Nobody here has called for military intervention.

 

[Chobham]

Yeah they have.

Catch and release is a policy that's been used before. The problem is the backlog. The problem is that the law has inherent issues such as this.


You literally don't get to decide who qualifies.



Texas has brought attention to the problems with the law. And instead of using it to push Congress to address the problems...

He instead has pointed it at the President.

Nobody here has called for military intervention.

Yeah they have and not just here.

A backlog that was solely the result of purposeful policy. It's Clowart-Piven writ large. The cost of these policies is at least $150+ billion/yr to the taxpayer. Ask the mayors of New York or Chicago how much it's costing them.

 

[ll74]

Yeah they have.

Yeah they have and not just here.

A backlog that was solely the result of purposeful policy. It's Clowart-Piven writ large. The cost of these policies is at least $150+ billion/yr to the taxpayer. Ask the mayors of New York or Chicago how much it's costing them.

There is no tenable way to handle things under current law.

Catch and release is the most humane way. Since you don't believe they should be treated humanely, I understand you don't like it.

As for new York and Chicago, since Texas gets money to address the migrants from the feds, they should be sending that money with the ones they are shipping there.

 

[RoryN]

Did the Civil War start yet?

 

[Chobham]

There is no tenable way to handle things under current law.

Catch and release is the most humane way. Since you don't believe they should be treated humanely, I understand you don't like it.

As for new York and Chicago, since Texas gets money to address the migrants from the feds, they should be sending that money with the ones they are shipping there.

That's worked so well for law enforcement.

 

[ll74]

That's worked so well for law enforcement.

What part of not tenable under.current law do you not understand?

Policy changes should reduce the numbers, but more judges and resources are needed to reduce the backlog.

 

[Chobham]

You insist that there is nothing Biden can do when there is, wait in Mexico.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

You insist that there is nothing Biden can do when there is, wait in Mexico.

He should embrace HR2. Use his political capital and decades of senate experience to pass it in that chamber. It would make a positive impact on border control.

 

[Chobham]

He should embrace HR2. Use his political capital and decades of senate experience to pass it in that chamber. It would make a positive impact on border control.

It would be a good start, but that's all under the assumption that he IS in control and I'm not convinced he is. He was a dull tool BEFORE his mental decline.

 

[ll74]

You insist that there is nothing Biden can do when there is, wait in Mexico.

1. Mexico won't allow it anymore
2. That results in more dead

 

[ll74]

He should embrace HR2. Use his political capital and decades of senate experience to pass it in that chamber. It would make a positive impact on border control.

HR2 is a completely one sided legislation. The Senate bill is bipartisan and is the one he is working to pass.

 

[Chobham]

HR2 is a completely one sided legislation. The Senate bill is bipartisan and is the one he is working to pass.

And that is EXACTLY the one that won't pass. The Senate bill is a piece of shit.

 

[ll74]

Speaking of

 

[ll74]

And that is EXACTLY the one that won't pass. The Senate bill is a piece of shit.

The Senate bill is better than HR2 and has support of both parties and the President.

 

[Chobham]

Both parties where? Not in the house.