Aussie's Self Pleasure Study Club

[MrMikelobe1952]

Hello Pervs

I have a confession. It's not really a confession because to me it's completely normal. But apparently it's blowing people's minds a little...

I don't really masturbate. It's not something I grew up doing, didn't build a habit around it and haven't had the inkling to put any real effort into figuring it out. Until now.

I've managed to somehow explore my sexuality within the confines of my mind and partnered sex. I haven't always acknowledged or even centered my need for pleasure and as I grow older I learn that shit has got to change. I want to feel good and I am worthy of that.

So, dear friends, grab a vibrator and come with me now on a journey through time and space to the land of (the mighty boosh)

I plan on using this space to journal my adventures and maybe have y'all chime in with whatever comes up for you. I dunno, I just think lit is the perfect place to chronicle my adventures of being a geriatric millennial that finally decided to rub one out on her own.

Wanna join Aussie's Self Pleasure Study Club?
Let's feel good together.

Speaking for the feared pervs who will be following this thread, this sounds fascinating. And I think that even the creepiest of us will inevitably learn something from this. I have no doubt that you will enjoy your exploration.

As a boomer, I am either puzzled or disturbed at the concept of a "geriatric millenial." I'm not ready to accept the characterization for myself, never mind one so young as you. But it is easy from the perspective of my age to understand a woman growing up without learning to masturbate. In my youth, there was a tremendous amount of guilt associated weven with boys masturbating. Not enough to stop me from doing it every night, but enough to make me feel bad afterward. Every time. But for girls, anything to do with sex was loaded with guilt. Girls weren't even supposed to want to do i. I would have hoped that his would have ended by the time millenial girls were growing up, but I don't really know.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Honestly I love the information I learn in Aussie's threads

I came for the porn but I'm staying for the science

I'll have to go searching, but there's an actual phenomenon that describes how knowing more about a subject makes that activity more enjoyable.

So I decided to learn as much as I could about sex.

It's working

 

[drobert44]

Hello Pervs

I have a confession. It's not really a confession because to me it's completely normal. But apparently it's blowing people's minds a little...

I don't really masturbate. It's not something I grew up doing, didn't build a habit around it and haven't had the inkling to put any real effort into figuring it out. Until now.

I've managed to somehow explore my sexuality within the confines of my mind and partnered sex. I haven't always acknowledged or even centered my need for pleasure and as I grow older I learn that shit has got to change. I want to feel good and I am worthy of that.

So, dear friends, grab a vibrator and come with me now on a journey through time and space to the land of (the mighty boosh)

I plan on using this space to journal my adventures and maybe have y'all chime in with whatever comes up for you. I dunno, I just think lit is the perfect place to chronicle my adventures of being a geriatric millennial that finally decided to rub one out on her own.

Wanna join Aussie's Self Pleasure Study Club?
Let's feel good together.

Hoorah for you. May I add that wifey loves a dildo, or finger, in her ass due to all the sensitive nerves there?

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Speaking for the feared pervs who will be following this thread, this sounds fascinating. And I think that even the creepiest of us will inevitably learn something from this. I have no doubt that you will enjoy your exploration.

As a boomer, I am either puzzled or disturbed at the concept of a "geriatric millenial." I'm not ready to accept the characterization for myself, never mind one so young as you. But it is easy from the perspective of my age to understand a woman growing up without learning to masturbate. In my youth, there was a tremendous amount of guilt associated weven with boys masturbating. Not enough to stop me from doing it every night, but enough to make me feel bad afterward. Every time. But for girls, anything to do with sex was loaded with guilt. Girls weren't even supposed to want to do i. I would have hoped that his would have ended by the time millenial girls were growing up, but I don't really know.

You raise a lot of fantastic points. Many of which I plan on tackling in the coming pages.

Guilt is a bitch of a sexual inhibitor and the vehicle of choice for controlling other people's behavior.

The boomer women who were shamed out of exploration were the ones who raised us and unless they did the hard work of unpacking their shame, they passed it on.

I mean, look at the fetishizing of female masturbation that's already occurred here by men. It's a tricky place to exist as a sex positive female that wants her sexuality to be hers and hers alone. I want the same for everyone here. I want this thread to be a place where we can safely discuss these topics without fear of someone telling us we're wrong or being put on a pedestal as an object of desire.

There's so much we can learn from each other here

 

[HoneyMeadows]

Different sized pieces for the different sized clit hoods.

I am suddenly very interested in this particular model

I would have hoped that his would have ended by the time millenial girls were growing up, but I don't really know.

I was raised by a GenX mother who transferred all her guilt from her mother to me. It was a very restricted upbringing and I had to figure out a lot on my own. I didn't even get "the talk" when I got my first period. It's nice to find out that I'm not alone and may even be considered normal

I'll have to go searching, but there's an actual phenomenon that describes how knowing more about a subject makes that activity more enjoyable.

That is me all over. I'm here to study.

I mean, look at the fetishizing of female masturbation that's already occurred here by men. It's a tricky place to exist as a sex positive female that wants her sexuality to be hers and hers alone.

My entire identity is covered over about 10 different Porn Hub categories

 

[Eringobra]

I have a Bad Dragon Razor, Rex, and Lil'Chico and I love and recommendations all of them. They are amazing and satisfying hehe haha

 

[aussiegeekygal]

I have a Bad Dragon Razor, Rex, and Lil'Chico and I love and recommendations all of them. They are amazing and satisfying hehe haha

I did some digging into bad dragon after last night's conversation.
I felt... intimidated.

There are some incredible pieces of art in there!

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/assets/Image/Clitoris.png

Good morning class.

There was a fantastic question about why we masturbate the way we do and in the spirit of this being a study club, let's dive in!

This is the clitoris. If you are like me and own one of these, it is helpful to know about it so that you can explore it and the pleasure it can provide.

First off, the clit is not just some pea shaped nub. It's not a "button". Around 90 percent of the clitoris’s bulk lies beneath the surface. It is a sprawling underground kingdom of crackling nerves and blood-pumping vessels. Underneath the nub, called the glans clitoris, a plump wishbone shape encircles the vagina, with arms that flare out up to nine centimeters into the pelvis. And all of the parts beneath the surface are made of erectile tissue, meaning they swell with blood when aroused to become even bigger.

And that under-the-surface bulk is brimming with connections. The clitoris is intimately entwined with all of the pelvic structures around it, including the urethra (the duct for urination), the vagina and the labia.

Understanding the full shape of the clitoris helps us to improve anatomy textbooks and better comprehend how female orgasm works. It also helps surgeons to spare crucial nerves during pelvic surgery, improve gender-affirmation procedures and repair the clitorises of women who have undergone female genital mutilation.

In 2005 Australian urologist Helen O’Connell thrust the full anatomy of the clitoris into the public eye. She used microdissection of cadavers and magnetic resonance imaging of living women to reveal what only a few brave anatomists had ever dared to point out. This thing is kind of huge!

How did it take until 2005 for us to properly identify this anatomy?
Is this part of why female masturbation isn't well understood? Probably.

Every human on this earth is made up of the same parts arranged in different configurations.


https://vivianbaruch.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Anatomy-of-cliroris-penis-Vivian-Baruch-online-Springwood.jpg

So to the gentlebeast who asked why women don't orgasm via penetration, I ask you the same thing? If you as a male had no glans simulation and were only stimulated at the bulb of your sexual anatomy (you can reach it via probing your rectum), how reliably would you get off? And would it be worth the effort for you?

Things to ponder...

This is a fascinating comparison. I have seen diagrams of the clitoris like that many times in the past decade or so, but I've never seen it placed side by side with the penis like that before. Not much attention is paid to the internal structure of the penis. After all, the external portion is very prominent and quite easy to use both for masturbatory and copulatory purposes (provided it is in an erect condition). Actually, I will confess to complete ignorance about the bulb of the penis.
If I probe my rectum, I find my prostate, which is getting easier and easier to find at this age, presenting other problems not relevant to this discussion. I can get off through stimulation of just the prostate, although if I do it myself, I stroke the shaft but don't touch the glans. Whatever. It all feels good.

Am I treating your question too literally?

 

[Eringobra]

I did some digging into bad dragon after last night's conversation.
I felt... intimidated.

There are some incredible pieces of art in there!

Last nights conversation sounds like you had a good conversation haha....

Yes there are some incredible pieces of art there as well as intimidating pieces of art haha. There are definitely some that intimidate me as well, and that I would never buy or be able to use. It is easy to get overwhelmed but I found some that I was comfortable with, and do not regret it one bit. It has opened a whole new avenue in life for me. Like I mentioned I ended settling on the Razor, Rex, and Lil'Chico.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

I think it's because we actually have sex Ed in schools

And not nearly as much puritanical nonsense that exists in other countries.

I've found Australian women to be very well informed indeed.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

It's nice to find out that I'm not alone and may even be considered normal

Yes!!!

You are normal and wonderful and deserving of a fulfilling, pleasurable sex life.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

This is a fascinating comparison. I have seen diagrams of the clitoris like that many times in the past decade or so, but I've never seen it placed side by side with the penis like that before. Not much attention is paid to the internal structure of the penis. After all, the external portion is very prominent and quite easy to use both for masturbatory and copulatory purposes (provided it is in an erect condition). Actually, I will confess to complete ignorance about the bulb of the penis.
If I probe my rectum, I find my prostate, which is getting easier and easier to find at this age, presenting other problems not relevant to this discussion. I can get off through stimulation of just the prostate, although if I do it myself, I stroke the shaft but don't touch the glans. Whatever. It all feels good.

Am I treating your question too literally?

I'm a literal creature and happily go deep into literal holes (and figurative ones).

I'm also a bit of an anatomy nerd. I'm not surprised and a little ashamed to say that I still know way more about male anatomy. In a previous life I treated prostate cancer for a living and became quite familiar with penises and their surrounding structures.

https://bjui-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/255bd794-b59c-40a3-8422-3247d070c55f/bju14181-fig-0002-m.jpg


This is a great diagram that shows the bulb of the penis in relation to the rectum. As I mentioned earlier, probing that in an attempt to orgasm may not be all that fruitful. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong, it's just not the easiest place to stimulate someone sexually. Understanding that this is the case for penis holders and translating the knowledge that vulva operators may not orgasm from bulb stimulation actually makes sense. It's an anomaly for those with a vulva to orgasm via penetration alone, not the norm.

Prostates are a fascinating organ for sexual arousal, aren't they? There are a lot of nerves around the bladder that can be incredible to find if they translate into pleasure within your body. Not everyone enjoys they kind of stimulation, and that's ok. More than ok, it's normal!

 

[HoneyMeadows]

I think it's because we actually have sex Ed in schools

And not nearly as much puritanical nonsense that exists in other countries.

Yes!!!

You are normal and wonderful and deserving of a fulfilling, pleasurable sex life.

I went to a Catholic school so not much sex education but a lot of sexual guilt.

It's an anomaly for those with a vulva to orgasm via penetration alone, not the norm.

Ok so I'm going to let go of all the shame from when I was in my 20s and pass is back to the dudes who epically failed to give me an orgasm

 

[TempSpawn]

I think it's because we actually have sex Ed in schools

And not nearly as much puritanical nonsense that exists in other countries.

Well, my early sex ed was all based on either an old black & white 1950s style public information film shown in school around age 11, or early 1980s porn videos.

Either of which are pretty bad examples of what sex and sexuality should be about.

Hopefully I've learned more about the realities of intimacy and considerate sexual practices since then.

 

[TempSpawn]

Yeah, that bad. But that's the UK for you.

Since then I've spoken to a few women about what really works, rather than what porn would have you believe and I've learned far more about my own sexuality from self exploration.

 

[mickyp123]

Did you know it's as big as a penis?

I’ve never given one a BJ yet lol

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

I'm a literal creature and happily go deep into literal holes (and figurative ones).

I'm also a bit of an anatomy nerd. I'm not surprised and a little ashamed to say that I still know way more about male anatomy. In a previous life I treated prostate cancer for a living and became quite familiar with penises and their surrounding structures.

https://bjui-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/255bd794-b59c-40a3-8422-3247d070c55f/bju14181-fig-0002-m.jpg


This is a great diagram that shows the bulb of the penis in relation to the rectum. As I mentioned earlier, probing that in an attempt to orgasm may not be all that fruitful. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong, it's just not the easiest place to stimulate someone sexually. Understanding that this is the case for penis holders and translating the knowledge that vulva operators may not orgasm from bulb stimulation actually makes sense. It's an anomaly for those with a vulva to orgasm via penetration alone, not the norm.

Prostates are a fascinating organ for sexual arousal, aren't they? There are a lot of nerves around the bladder that can be incredible to find if they translate into pleasure within your body. Not everyone enjoys they kind of stimulation, and that's ok. More than ok, it's normal!

Oh, I'm glad to know I can be as literal as I like, without offending you. And if you would ever like to go deeply into any hole that I might have, please feel free to let me know. But not on this thread, as we are already drifting away from the topic at hand. (Okay, I know you are not using your hand, but I am.) But you have encouraged me to respond to another of your comments, about us male pervs fetishizing female masturbation. I'll hold on that, because I want to talk about this really cool diagram.

Your diagram does not label the prostate, but I'm pretty sure I have it spotted. And I think my point is validated. Unless I am really off base, it seems like it would get in the way of trying to stimulate the bulb of the penis. Not that that really has anything to do with your fundamental point about the vaginal orgasm. But it has always seemed to me that most sexual positions allow for plenty of stimulation of the glans of the clitoris, as long as the participants make a point of ensuring friction in that vicinity. I can remember 50 years ago, when I was just figuring out how to fuck, having a discussion about what seemed to be an apparent dilemma. We knew that the best stimulation for the woman was pressing the penis against the upper surface of the vulva, where the clit is. (This is in missionary positoin). However, for the male (me, in this instance), at the point of orgasm, it felt most intense for the base of my penis to be pressed against the lower surface. This seemed like a design error. The solution was to thrust deep as climax approached, so stimulation worked both ways. This, of course, tends to ensure deposit of the semen deep inside of the vagina, which contributes to the evolutionary purpose of the process

 

[Lady2020]

I don't know about other women, but when I hit my 40s it was like my sexual desire exploded. I remember dripping when talking to an online partner. Now on Lit, my issue is a lot of men don't know how to express themselves. How to articulate their needs, their feelings. And women on Lit are expected to put up with this.

 

[Lady2020]

Well, no. We aren’t expected to do anything.

I think it's more the old lay back and take it thing.

 

[TempSpawn]

I understand there is a certain cross section of the male population on Lit that doesn't do themselves any favours, but some of us are okay.

 

[Lady2020]

Don’t.
I don’t. Just don’t.
There are some pretty great people here, also.
Be discerning.

I think I'm pretty discerning. I'm not saying all men are like this. I'm saying too many are.

 

[KatieDoes]

Greetings girls. As a man I find it hard to understand why many women use a vibrator to masturbate instead of using their fingers. Is it because it gives a more intense orgasm than even a dildo? Or perhaps brings it on quicker? Men seem to get by with their hands, or banging it against the wall, or even letting it dangle in their pants and rub on the cloth! We're simple folk! My current SO never masturbated as a single woman and didn't experience an orgasm until she married, yet she definitely now enjoys the experience and I certainly enjoy seeing her come, whether with manual stimulation or actual intercourse. I understand many women never achieve orgasm, and I suspect many men feel inadequate if their female partner can't 'get there'. Why did Mother Nature make the female orgasm so difficult to achieve? There is nothing a man can do which replicates the action of a vibrator, or even a dildo. Keen to hear about this from a woman's perspective as my girlfriend is reluctant or unable to discuss such things, but perhaps this is not the correct forum?
Sorry to interrupt the enthusiastic chat of horny female litsters!

Orgasms aren’t difficult for most women to achieve, once they know their own body and what they need.

Women achieve orgasms at much higher rates when they masturbate or have sex with another woman, as opposed to when they have sex with a man.


Which leads me to the conclusion that the issue isn’t with women, or with women’s orgasms.

 

[bigwoody8]

What can you tell me about the female mind during masturbation?

I’ve always heard men are more visual when it comes to being turned on. I think visuals help a great deal, but I can also read a story, think up scenarios, think about my current or previous sexual partners…

I suspect women aren’t entirely different, but men feel the urge to do it far more often it seems.

 

[bigwoody8]

I don't know about other women, but when I hit my 40s it was like my sexual desire exploded. I remember dripping when talking to an online partner. Now on Lit, my issue is a lot of men don't know how to express themselves. How to articulate their needs, their feelings. And women on Lit are expected to put up with this.

I think it's more the old lay back and take it thing.

Don’t.
I don’t. Just don’t.
There are some pretty great people here, also.
Be discerning.

Need clarification:

If the issue is that some men are NOT expressing themselves or articulating their needs… then what are you feeling pressure to put up with or lay back and take?

 

[bigwoody8]

I’m visual. Auditory. Sense-y.
Sensual?
I do like to watch and see, but I don’t need it to cum. I can watch my brain movie.
I love the feels, but I can get off without them. There has to be chemistry, though.
If someone is physically attractive but doesn’t attract me in other ways, I usually don’t bother.

Are you talking about masturbation or e-boning?
Or both?