Can anyone help the SadNiceGuy?

[SanDguy_22]

Mary Hall
"Your 23 years old? shit, why are you so bitter towards women?"


Well how would you feel if the only thing you have recieved for your efforts and affection is being treated like shit and getting tossed aside like a used tampon. This in adition to being second to the bottle or some other drug, loud parties and every god awfull abusive asshole out there.
After which the only things women talk to you about are their relationship problems and how horible their partners are.
That ever so nice on ones confidence and self esteem... though after a while it merely becomes agrovating and a nuisance at best.
When that hapens.. ooo voila you have some asshole like me around once again. The odd thing about it all hapens to be that you keep your sence of humor but it gets warped and twisted around... trough this anything bad that hapens to you, your loved ones, the things you care about etc.. will only invoke
a responce which is something in the lines of
"Oh, hah well isnt that nice and typical."
Mind you that at this point its about the only thing you will truly feel asides from getting annoyed at people.

Why... you ask.... well its quite elementary my dear... becaus "girls just want to have fun..." with little regard in relation to how that fun affects others aroud them.
There is not much anything more or better to be said about guys... except that since i am not a homosexual why would i actualy give a damn on what other men do?

 

[Mary Hall]

My advice....


Turn gay if you hate women so much

 

[lovechild27]

Im guessing SD guy has never been to a shrink..or maybe you have and had a bad experience. Yes, they do help. Yes, he needs one if he doesnt want to live the rest of his life like this. I really doubt his ability to get out and do these things. Im sure what we are telling him here is nothing new...nothing he hasnt heard before. A therapist isnt going to judge, to point and laugh or tell him he is stupid. A therapist will teach him how to get his life out of the gutter, how to deal with his depression and how to improve his outlook on himself. Think of it this way...a lot of us have things we have to do we dont like. I dont know a woman alive who just LOVES to go to the gyne...its violating and pretty gross. But we all still go for our health. Sometimes you need to try something you dont feel so great about to get what you need or want. We all have our hangups and this is one of sad guys. What is so wrong about learning to overcome it? It may be annoying we all say that...but in reality it is what he needs to do.

 

[SanDguy_22]

understand what you are saying... though i must point out a couple of things...

I have gone to a couple of therapists...
The first was an ignorant fool whom assumed things about me
and the things that i do... after which she continued on to tell me how to behave in various situations. Advice which was useless since i was already doing those very same things.
I told her of the situation but she did not listen to anything i actualy had to say... hence i left.

The second was a greedy bastard who was taking kickbacks from insurance and drug companies for administering various medications to her patients rather than actualy helping them learn to cope with their problems. needless to say i did not bother after she tried the same with me.


My probelm persay would be that...
For having had treated people in the past with courtesy, kindness and respect i would have expected to recieve the same in return. It was/ is rarely returned asides from people whom were/ are unavailable in one way or an other. That as a whole is something any Therapists as such can never help me to deal with.

 

[nekos]

wow this is an odd thread . i can't figure out if sadniceguy is full of shit or telling the truth .
first off im in a situation WAY worse then he is ... except for the ugly part < im damn purdy if i must say so myself >
but putting this guy down wen he asks for advice / help is the wrong thing to do! it only makes things worse for him.
all you need sadniceguy is some confidence !!! go out have a good time and if you see a woman you like ... talk to her !!! who cares if she shoot's you down.
just move on to the next woman if she does.
sooner or later you will find some one that thinks your cute and want's to talk to you.
you don't have to be built to get a good looking woman , you don't have to the best looking guy on the planet , women are weird when it comes to looks.
< how many times have you seen a hot women with the most fugly guy you have ever had the displeasure of laying your eye's on ??? > they do not always wan't the best looking guy. if they did i and about 99% of the guys in this world would never get laid . the 1 thing you do need is confidence though !

< an ugly confident man can get a womans panties down faster then the the best looking guy that doubts himself >

just put your self out there. you will find some one.
your never going to find a woman if you don't try and sit home playing video games.


BTW i play way to many video games ... ever play EQ, DAoC . shadow suck errr i mean shadowbane ???
oh ya 1 last thing ... go see a shrink , they are nothing more then some one to talk to and well it kinda feals good to get things off your chest .

 

[Mary Hall]

If you feel all women hate you, get therapy, get a puppy, go on vacation, do anything but wallow, if you act confident women will want to be with you...and not all women are the same

 

[lovechild27]

oh wow..TWO shrinks sd...well lets just discount them all why dont you!

First, you obviously didnt know what to ask before you set up an appointment. You interview them...ask their techniques, what kind of therapist they are (psychiatrist, psychotherapist, counseling...they all have different ways of looking at problems and not everyone will work for you), how long they have practiced, average treatment time, ect. Your first appointment should be more like a getting to know you session. If you dont like them after that you dont go back and find someone else. If therapy isnt for you then fine. It isnt. Your beyond help then. Dont discount what it COULD do for someone else. The guy asked for advice....one of the things he clearly needs to to get some professional help.

 

[SanDguy_22]

lovechild27

im not discounting them all... im just saying that i have had that experience.. in adition tot hat i have taken enough psychology to understand how quite a few function.
Then we can go off on to the whole issues on cost, insurance coverage etc...
Its just not worth my while.... nor really benefitial to my curent personal economy.

 

[SanDguy_22]

as to the other guy.. i was pointing out in my own way the results of what will hapen if he does not seek help or arrive to some solution which offers life experience change for him.
As you may have noted he did agree to a sertain level to those conclusions.

But then again he did have the same mentality of it all as i do.

 

[ABN_Ranger]

My advice....


Turn gay if you hate women so much

Huh... I thought I came to the conclusion that the wonder monkey was gay on a different thread?
See man... other people are beginning to notice too. I say ya strap on your heels, grab purse and step right out of the closet. I'm sure you can find plenty of boyfriends since you seem to hate women. But if that doesn't work... For the love of god... stop sniveling. Yes we all know you hate women. Good for you jo-jo, move on, deal with it. Ya don't need to keep reminding us.

 

[sheath]

understand what you are saying... though i must point out a couple of things...

I have gone to a couple of therapists...
The first was an ignorant fool whom assumed things about me
and the things that i do... after which she continued on to tell me how to behave in various situations. Advice which was useless since i was already doing those very same things.
I told her of the situation but she did not listen to anything i actualy had to say... hence i left.

Interesting...that's what most people tend to say when they are dead-set against therapy to begin with. Seems to me you didn't go into it with an open mind, so of course any therapist who didn't agree with your views was going to turn out to be "an ignorant fool" or "useless".

*sigh*

Methinks you just need some time to grow up, poor thing.

S.

 

[judge not]

Huh... I thought I came to the conclusion that the wonder monkey was gay on a different thread?
See man... other people are beginning to notice too. I say ya strap on your heels, grab purse and step right out of the closet. I'm sure you can find plenty of boyfriends since you seem to hate women. But if that doesn't work... For the love of god... stop sniveling. Yes we all know you hate women. Good for you jo-jo, move on, deal with it. Ya don't need to keep reminding us.

What he said.

Nobody should argue with a Ranger anyway, it tends to be bad for one's health.

Welcome, J.