Canada’s Fading Neighbor, the USA.

[Fuzzy1975]

LOL. I know, but Aunt Jemima is so much more satisfying.

I know it's anathema, but I like my Canadian maple syrup

Enjoy paying the extra price. You can thank Trump!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Oh, the issue wasn't whether you could or not, as always it's about the price. The US is able to pay a higher price based on transportation to refinery costs and the fact that our refineries are already configured to deal with Albertan Sludge.

lol, that "Alberta sludge" and Saskatchewan crude makes up 40% of your domestic fuels...I'd better not see a post of you whining about Canada driving up the price of your gas...*chuckles*

 

[ChloeTzang]

Nestle is raping groundwater globally.

But that’s the name of the game in bottle water.

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On the real issue… nearly 100 years of neighborly trade generosity by Canada… Canada can shift its preferred North-South trade routes East-West.

Europe, China, India… Canada also has alternatives, including a recent Free Trade Agreement with Europe.

Trump says Canada doesnt have anything it needs…. Ha ha ha ha!

The port of Vancouver is a huge bottleneck. They don't have the infrastructure to make the switch

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The port of Vancouver is a huge bottleneck. They don't have the infrastructure to make the switch

West Bridge Terminal can export 620,000 bpd.

https://www.transmountain.com/westridge-marine-terminal

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You might want to read up on the Trans Mountain Pipeline.

Canada only reduced oil shipments to China at the request of its neighbor and good friend, the USA.

When it looked like Trump was going to be elected, Canada quietly lent its Government owned TM pipeline 20B for another expansion.

Pres Trump now says the USA doesnt need Canadian oil, electricity or lumber.

Okie dokie!
Lol

Damn, I was so pissed at Trudeau over buying this out (among other things) but I guess he got lucky. Not sure we'll increase to China, but I can see looking to India.

 

[ChloeTzang]

As with Rebel, this would be a good time for you to also read up on these things so you can pist intelligently.

There's a lot more along the same lines

https://www.primefreight.com/port-o...-navigating-import-surges-and-rail-shortages/

https://www.supplypro.ca/vancouver-container-port-places-second-last-on-global-efficiency-ranking/

 

[Fuzzy1975]

As with Rebel, this would be a good time for you to also read up on these things so you can pist intelligently.

Chloe has me on ignore so you might want to educate her. She's fixated on Van apparently.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The Pandemic made it easy for people to blame their Leaders.

Canada remains in good shape with lots if upside compared to most G20 Countries.

Oh, by the way, have you noticed how PP has gone silent since this broke open?

Leadership?

Yah, he can't run on being a Canadian version of Trump now. Maybe the Con's will pick a real leader.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Most of his support comes from people under 50 who forget that pp has never had a real job, he was Harper’s attack puppy and Canadians hated Harper WAY more than Trudeau.

I doubt it, like Americans, Canadians voters are often too lazy to actually educate themselves on political party platforms.

Maybe the next few months will lift the fog and re-balance thinking.

I think who ever wins the Libs leadership will be the PM till this war is over, or 2026. No way in hell the NDP will cause an election while this shit is going on.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The bigger the fight with Trump, the better it is for whoever becomes PM… for a year or two.

Remember, Trudeau1 was considered finished over Inflation, there was a Conservative Minority Gov, then that collapsed and Trudeau1 came back and was re-elected.

True, but that was Joe fucking up. That help PET a whole bunch. Still if they had went to Paul M vs PET I wonder how things would have been?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

See the parallels?

I don’t like trudeau but it’s a mistake to suggest he’s anything but clever as a politician.

Yes, but for PET it was winning the lottery. Plus Jean and Paul didn't have the backing. I'm pretty sure it's going to Carney this time. The guy who save the G7 from Bush jr fuck ups.

 

[Bray123]

Canadian lawmaker Charlie Angus, at the press conference backing a “Pledge for Canada” to respond to challenges facing the nation, suggested putting “200%” tariffs on Musk’s “douche Panzer” should Trump go forward with his plans.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...da-tariffs-threats_n_679db851e4b0bbaed17f1c8e

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The US represents 80% of Canada’s exports. The tariffs could be devastating to the Canadian economy.

The US could feel an inflationary pinch.
Inflation in the US is currently running at 2.9%. The Fed’s target is 2%. An article in today’s WSJ cites an estimate from the Peterson Institute that U.S. inflation would be 0.54 percentage point higher with the tariffs this year than without.

https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/c...19ccd?st=W7Nb9R&reflink=article_copyURL_share

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The US represents 80% of Canada’s exports. The tariffs could be devastating to the Canadian economy.

It used to be 96% of our exports. Yes it will hurt, but Canadians are will to pay the pain. Are you?

The US could will feel an inflationary pinch.

FYP

Inflation in the US is currently running at 2.9%. The Fed’s target is 2%. An article in today’s WSJ cites an estimate from the Peterson Institute that U.S. inflation would be 0.54 percentage point higher with the tariffs this year than without.

https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/c...19ccd?st=W7Nb9R&reflink=article_copyURL_share

lol, that's with just Tariffs. Trust me on this, if Trump try's to up the anti, we'll limit Energy. It's the nuclear option. But hey in war you have to do what you have to do.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Could be? Will be. Absolutely.

The USA just sucker-punched and deserted its longest and most loyal friend.

Watch your back.

Those dumbfuck Americans have no idea how Trump united a country. With the exception of the concrete cowboys of Calgary, 18% of Alberta's population. That'll sure make a difference....lol

Even Quebec's on board,how the fuck did that happen???

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It used to be 96% of our exports. Yes it will hurt, but Canadians are will to pay the pain. Are you?

FYP

lol, that's with just Tariffs. Trust me on this, if Trump try's to up the anti, we'll limit Energy. It's the nuclear option. But hey in war you have to do what you have to do.

I don’t anticipate much pain here. Potentially an inflation bump of between .3% and .54% according to estimates I’ve seen.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I don’t anticipate much pain here. Potentially an inflation bump of between .3% and .54% according to estimates I’ve seen.

No one said you were smart. Good luck with your expectations.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

No one said you were smart. Good luck with your expectations.

Those are not my estimates. They are from two economic research firms, Capital Economics and the Peterson Institute respectively.

 

[MajorRewrite]

I don’t anticipate much pain here. Potentially an inflation bump of between .3% and .54% according to estimates I’ve seen.

Inflation is far from the only impact expected from restricting trade. The legs have just been knocked out from under a chunk of the economy. 41 million jobs in the US are supported by foreign trade.

If you want to see the potential impact, just look at the UK. Brexit fucked them up.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Those are not my estimates. They are from two economic research firms, Capital Economics and the Peterson Institute respectively.

How awesome for them!!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Blessing in disguise… why stay in partnership with someone you can’t trust?

We've been warned about this for decades. Maybe TCP will turn line three on now, Quebec will let the extension go through, and we can ship Alberta "sludge" to Irving finally.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

We've been warned about this for decades. Maybe TCP will turn line three on now, Quebec will let the extension go through, and we can ship Alberta "sludge" to Irving finally.

It could be built in under 3 years, excellent employment to make up for a lot of lost jobs this trade war will cause. It will reduce the dependence on US refineries, and on trade with the US.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Trump could wind up being good for Canadian Unity.

Common adversary.

Did you hear Smith's response? Hell she's almost crying. I guess she gave Trump a shitty blowjob.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Trump could wind up being good for Canadian Unity.

Common adversary.

It already has. Fucking American scum. I have a friend who owns a tourist resort. Americans pay 10K just to come up to shoot a wolf. He said his price just tripled.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Global trade doesn’t rely on the USA the way it used to.

Countries can “trade around” the USA and already are…

“Trump is winging it, saying we have a large trade deficit with Canada when we don’t and that Canadians are responsible for fentanyl coming across the border when they aren’t,” he said. “This lack of policy is inevitably going to lead to some sort of reversal, because there’s no overall strategy.”

Aging Boomers continue to cling to the fantasy that the world relies upon USA for all their global trade needs.

Project2025 wants to bring America social value back to the 1950s-1960s but the world has undergone a seismic change since then and America cannot bring the world to heel and roll back trading to that bygone era any longer.